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mostly reader says

You mean, the grain that they STOLE and ARE STEALING from Ukraine, right? Is this the grain to which you refer?

Maybe. I'm just pointing out that Russia may be sending grain to Europe this year. If Europe just stated plainly "Ukraine will NOT join NATO" none of this stupid shit would be happening. Russia hasn't even taken their gloves off yet. They might let parts of Europe to literally freeze to death in about 4 months.

mostly reader says

When you say "sending" you actually mean "SELLING", right? Is this what you mean?

Just being clear for the benefit of those vulnerable to "word-thinking".

See, you should work harder on your definitions. As of now, they are very, VERY misleading.

I mean Europe may be even MORE dependent on Russia after this stupid fucking war that could have been trivially avoided. Russia has been trying to negotiate with Europe for fucking years, and I suspect they are finally fed up talking to a bunch of assholes that treat Russian diplomats like a baby treats a diaper.

More Western aid arrives for Ukraine:
https://t.me/asbmil/2191

https://gettr.com/post/p1e6t8n7636

@rwmalonemd

Jun 14
Forwarded by a friend-

Did you notice no more stories lately of "Russian atrocities in Ukraine?" They all turned out to be fakes or lies. Even Bucha -- appears to have been masterminded by the Brits!

But you probably didn't notice that US and NATO supplied howitzers have been bombing civilian targets in Donestsk for the past week or so. Yesterday they hit a maternity hospital. Shocking! War Crime! No -- SILENCE. That's because the Western mass media is ignoring it.

This is how the maternity hospital in Donetsk, which was shelled by the Armed Forces of Ukraine yesterday, looks like now.
https://readovka.news/news/100810

Patrick says

But you probably didn't notice that US and NATO supplied howitzers have been bombing civilian targets in Donestsk

Yeah, I guess that's the thing about our noble military. Russians are preserving infrastructure and providing humanitarian corridors, while we concentrate on bombing the innocent civilians for false flag optics.

https://soapboxie.com/world-politics/corruption-solutionandcuses

Patrick says

https://gettr.com/post/p1e6t8n7636

@rwmalonemd

Jun 14
Forwarded by a friend-

Did you notice no more stories lately of "Russian atrocities in Ukraine?" They all turned out to be fakes or lies. Even Bucha -- appears to have been masterminded by the Brits!

But you probably didn't notice that US and NATO supplied howitzers have been bombing civilian targets in Donestsk for the past week or so. Yesterday they hit a maternity hospital. Shocking! War Crime! No -- SILENCE. That's because the Western mass media is ignoring it.

This is how the maternity hospital in Donetsk, which was shelled by the Armed Forces of Ukraine yesterday, looks like now.
https://readovka.news/news/100810

just like yugoslavia. our media hid ethnic cleansing our side performed there too. news seem to make up stories about other, while embelishing ours. its not truth, its sales.

FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden says

But you probably didn't notice that US and NATO supplied howitzers have been bombing civilian targets in Donestsk for the past week or so.

Where is the proof? Notice how the picture has nothing in it except some pieces of broken concrete, making identifying the location impossible. Such an egregious war crime and no videos and one picture which could be taken anywhere in the world, including Syria or Detroit ? What exactly prevents them from filiming hours and hours of video and terrabytes of HD pictures from every angle like these pesky Ukie did when Ruscists bombed their maternity ward in Mariupol? Reminds me of that "hanged pregnant woman" video which somehow got lost by the great independent journalist with an impeccable integrity and of which only one blurry screengrab is paraded around - typical sloppy Ruscist bullshit aimed at gullible mouthbreathers. At least when Globohomo Nazi Joo Clown makes his fakes - it's in HD, shot from many angles, with vibrant colors, exact geolocation and dozens of very persuasive crisis actors showing real emotions better than any Hollywood star ever could.

And where's the proof of NATO shells hitting it? If they somehow identified the projectiles as 155mm NATO, why not show their homework to the world? Let me guess: the dog ate it?

FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden says

SILENCE. That's because the Western mass media is ignoring it.

Yeah, right. Let's read what Lavrov has to say about it, shall we?

Here you go, from his recent interview to the BBC:

He then accused the BBC of not uncovering the truth of what had been happening to civilians in separatist-held areas of eastern Ukraine, "when civilians were being bombed by Kyiv's troops for eight years".

I stressed that over the course of six years, the BBC had many times contacted the leadership in the separatist-run areas asking for permission to go and see what was happening. We were refused entry every single time.

Russia has accused Ukraine of genocide. However, in 2021, eight civilians were killed in the rebel-held areas, according to self-proclaimed pro-Russian "officials", and seven the year before. While every death was a tragedy, I said, that did not constitute a genocide.

I suggested that if genocide really had taken place, then the Luhansk and Donetsk separatists would have been interested in us going there. Why were we not let in, I asked.

"I don't know," said Mr Lavrov.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-61825525

Notice how he does not refute the "rebels" own data on civvies killed during preceding 2 years which was 15 in TOTAL. Before Putin's coming out on the real goals of the war (land grab a-la Peter the Great, in case you didn't follow) the supposed "constant shelling of civilians by the Ukrainian army" was cited as one of the main reasons for it. And turned out to be a pile of bullshit according to the data provided by the "rebels" themselves.

Notice how he does not refute the fact that they don't allow Western media to go and see the "evidence" of the supposed "genocide" and doesn't answer why this is happening? All the usually sharp-tongued Lavrov has to say is "I don't know".

Ceffer says

Russians are preserving infrastructure and providing humanitarian corridors,

Bd6r says

Ceffer says

Russians are preserving infrastructure and providing humanitarian corridors,

CGI! CGI!!! CGI!!!!

Eric Holder says

CGI! CGI!!! CGI!!!!

Don't forget CRISIS!ACTORS!
BTW Russians did provide humanitarian corridors in Chechnya, in order to shoot them up and kill Chechens more efficiently.

And some more videos with obviously CRISIS!ACTORS! because Russians would NEVER do that:

https://thechechenpress.com/genocide/12457-obstrel-rossijskimi-okkupantami-g-groznyj.html

Eric Holder says

can you explain the joke?

FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden says

can you explain the joke?

Alleged Russian IFV is hit, meaning that the squad inside it now has to walk like Infantry, not ride like Mechanized Infantry.

Meanwhile AFU casualties are 500+ per day:

Mr Podolyak's suggestion that 100 to 200 Ukrainian soldiers are dying each day is higher than previous estimates. On Thursday, Ukraine's Defence Minister, Oleksii Reznikov, said Ukraine was losing 100 soldiers a day, and 500 more were injured.

The differing casualty figures are a sign of how difficult it is to get precise information from the battlefield.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-61742736

Since you can safely quadruple the number of KIA as WIA to get total casualties. Maybe a bit more to account for MIA , AWOL, and POW.

https://dossier.substack.com/p/welcome-to-ukraine-celeb-visits-banned

Far from condemning this behavior, or insisting that Kiev hits the brakes on the fascist behavior, the West continues to embrace the Ukrainian regime as the Current Thing.

Weapons and money continue to flow into the country, and high-ranking western officials, including famous celebrities, continue to align themselves with the troubled government there.

U.K. Prime Minister Boris Johnson, Hollywood celebrity Ben Stiller and U.S. Attorney General Merrick Garland have visited Ukraine, which we are told is in a day to day fight for its very survival. None were wearing protective gear in an apparent war zone.

Patrick says

U.K. Prime Minister Boris Johnson, Hollywood celebrity Ben Stiller and U.S. Attorney General Merrick Garland

They come back with Zelensky's cum on their faces, showing it off as a badge of honor.

DC is sending an old school 'Nazi chaser' to examine human rights violations, presumably by the Russians. LOL! I wonder how he is going to pull that off surrounded by Nazis.
https://t.me/asbmil/2305

Some oil rigs have been liberated from the liberators: http://www.hisutton.com/Burning-Russian-Oil-Rig-Detected.html

Just when you learned to prononce the weird-sounding name of another great commander leading the wildly successful Speshual Military Operashion....

Four months into Russia’s Ukraine offensive, President Vladimir Putin conducted his second purge of its high command. Gen. Sergei Vladimirovich Surovkin was moved from the top job in Russia’s air and missile forces to the leadership of the Ukraine command after the sacking of Gen. Aleksander Dubrinikov.

https://www.debka.com/putin-purges-ukraine-army-command-moves-air-missile-forces-chief-gen-surovkin-into-top-post/

Patrick says

https://dossier.substack.com/p/welcome-to-ukraine-celeb-visits-banned

This substack is one of the most stupid takes on Ukraine I have read. Banning a pro-Russian party during war with Russia seems like a correct thing to do. etc etc etc

Patrick says

Eric Holder says

Some oil rigs have been liberated from the liberators

In this week's "Duh, wasn't this obvious?"


original link

Eric Holder says

Some oil rigs have been liberated from the liberators: http://www.hisutton.com/Burning-Russian-Oil-Rig-Detected.html

Oil
Is
A
Fungible
Commodity

The ONLY THING THIS WILL DO is drive energy prices up. This won't hurt RUSSIA which is ENTIRELY ENERGY INDEPENDENT, like the United States was, up until Joe Biden took office.

Jesus. If Russian energy goes offline, Russia will stop exporting oil to India and China, this means India and China will then compete (more) with Europe and the United States for energy.

A LOT Of Russian oil production will have to be destroyed before RUSSIA is harmed.

EVERYTHING that was claimed by our bullshit propaganda media that Trump was going to do, is going on now. Congratulations. This is the establishment MORONS that we have in charge. Enjoy.

You're celebrating the fucking over of yourself.

Bd6r says

This substack is one of the most stupid takes on Ukraine I have read. Banning a pro-Russian party during war with Russia seems like a correct thing to do.

Why would you have to ban a pro-Russian party in Ukraine, if the Ukrainians, in a majority, are in favor of the Ukrainian war effort against Russia?

MAYBE, most Ukrainians are AGAINST this stupid fucking war. But hard to tell. I do know that it's mandatory for all men of fighting age to fight. They have conscription for a military effort that appears to be a hopeless cause. They're going to die, and it won't change the outcome. It MIGHT reduce the power of the Russian military, but that's it, and if the US and Russia get in a tangle, it won't matter, because it will be a nuclear exchange.

Eric Holder says

Just when you learned to prononce the weird-sounding name of another great commander leading the wildly successful Speshual Military Operashion....

Four months into Russia’s Ukraine offensive, President Vladimir Putin conducted his second purge of its high command. Gen. Sergei Vladimirovich Surovkin was moved from the top job in Russia’s air and missile forces to the leadership of the Ukraine command after the sacking of Gen. Aleksander Dubrinikov.

What's funny is that people think it's a sign of weakness when people are fired for not doing a good enough job.

Nobody in the US government is EVER fired, no matter how much they fuck up.

Bd6r says

Ceffer says

Russians are preserving infrastructure and providing humanitarian corridors,

What's that a picture of? Post WWII Dresden after the Allies bombed it? Are you suggesting this is a modern picture, taken in 2022? What's wrong with an authentic picture?

If you wanted to make it more believable, you should have shown some photographs of maybe Bosnia or Serbia - although those are kind of old. Parts of Libya would have been convincing - maybe even Syria or Lebanon.

Bd6r says

Patrick says

https://dossier.substack.com/p/welcome-to-ukraine-celeb-visits-banned

This substack is one of the most stupid takes on Ukraine I have read. Banning a pro-Russian party during war with Russia seems like a correct thing to do. etc etc etc

not familiar with them.
but kind of undermines that whole “we are a Democracy” thing a lot.

richwicks says

Why would you have to ban a pro-Russian party in Ukraine, if the Ukrainians, in a majority, are in favor of the Ukrainian war effort against Russia?

Isn't it fun to say things that pretend to be logical but aren't in any way of form?

I'll give you a hint: countries that banned the Nazi party during WW2 didn't do it because majority in those countries supported Germany. You can scrape up the remaining grey cells to answer your own misguided question.

Ceffer says

DC is sending an old school 'Nazi chaser' to examine human rights violations, presumably by the Russians. LOL! I wonder how he is going to pull that off surrounded by Nazis.

@Ceffer I see you've been dumpster diving again. Just so you know: the snapshot that you attached quotes Mizintsev. Google him (or duckduckgo). He's the piece of shit who bombed the theater in Mariupol. You know, the one that was double-purposed as a shelter. He's the piece of shit who's done the same to the maternity hospital in there. He's the piece of shit who first made his bones by committing atrocities in Syria (i.e. Aleppo) But what can be more reputable than Hague material who now goes out of his way to shift the blame, amiright?

mostly reader says

richwicks says

Why would you have to ban a pro-Russian party in Ukraine, if the Ukrainians, in a majority, are in favor of the Ukrainian war effort against Russia?

Isn't it fun to say things that pretend to be logical but aren't in any way of form?

What's illogical about what I stated?

Again, just saying I'm wrong doesn't explain how I'm wrong. I MIGHT be wrong, and if I am, I don't currently understand how I'm wrong, so I need to explained to me in order for me to reconsider my position.

mostly reader says

I'll give you a hint: countries that banned the Nazi party during WW2 didn't do it because majority in those countries supported Germany. You can scrape up the remaining grey cells to answer your own misguided question.

What countries did? The United States didn't have a Nazi party until 1959.

You don't have to censor or ban anything, if they are wrong. You just explain how they are wrong.

Censorship in the United States today is being done to protect the radical left which are basically communists today. Censorship was imposed in the early 2000's to protect the far right, which was toying with being fascists - that's why we have the Patriot Act and "Homeland" Security, and why 5 years of comments on Yahoo! under news stories about the Iraq War "mistake" were all deleted. Because it was "a mistake" despite millions of posts explaining the situation.

FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden says

can you explain the joke?

Mechanized brigade ( 4,000 soldiers in tanks and trucks) turns into a platoon (30 men on foot) of survivors running from their burning vehicles.

richwicks says

You don't have to censor or ban anything, if they are wrong.

This, right there. This is bunch of crap and you know it. Because PROPAGANDA WORKS! That's why MSM distorts reality in most stupid ways, and it still works. That's why readers here on patnet get (rightfully) aggravated when they see MSM distorting reality, and bring it here, and talk about it.

Propaganda demoralizes, seeks and exploits mental weaknesses, destroys the fabric of society. That it works is not even up for debate. That's why there was Goebbels, and that's why there are Kiselev and Solovyov - all 3 contributed to converting their respective nations into bunch of fucking zombies.

The only question is "to what degree". To what degree does propaganda work, how much exactly does it destroy the fabric of society. Can the society withstand that damage because it's in the right and the other side is in the wrong? You know what? The answer is irrelevant if there's FUCKING WAR going on. Ukraine has done exactly what needed to be done, and they should've done it sooner.

But of course you know it, being propagandist yourself and all that. You are just being dishonest, and I'm just pointing out the obvious.

It's somewhat cute when you suggest that Ukraine shouldn't have banned pro-Rashist parties. Almost as cute as this one pro-Rashist stooge I know tried to convince me that US Government shouldn't have banned Kaspersky from federal IT departments.