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Patrick,

For the sake of argument let's say that your assesment is correct and that only the actions of the United States are to blame for the Russian-Ukrainian war.

What do you think would have happened if the United States had not extended its sphere of influence and had not offered military protection to the countries East of the Iron Curtain?

Do you think that Russia would not have invaded, even unprovoked?

I don't think that small and weak countries can exist independently next to powerful countries. The powerful impose their will on the weak. Ironically, I will present our Southern border as an example. Right now we are weak because the illegals show up and we give them rights. Were we to project power, by shooting those who attempt illegal crossings, very few would dare to sneak across the border.

How else besides joining NATO would the Eastern Europeans project power against the Russians?

yawaraf says

Were we to project power, by shooting those who attempt illegal crossings, very few would dare to sneak across the border.

Brilliant!

https://asiatimes.com/2024/07/ukraine-war-will-end-in-surrender/

And yes. Apparently there actually is a town in Donbass named 'New York'.

Onvacation says

yawaraf says

Were we to project power, by shooting those who attempt illegal crossings, very few would dare to sneak across the border.

Brilliant!

or make it felony to hire illegals, all those businesses would stop hiring them and bringing them here.

I do have to give Russia credit for respecting history by using the same tactics and equipment when they tried to take over Finland back in the winter war.