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Greeted like Liberators: Ukraine Invasion Thread


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2022 Feb 23, 8:30pm   433,493 views  4,193 comments

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4019   socal2   2024 Jun 25, 4:30pm  

Patrick says

Just about every country on Earth, except a very few like North Korea and the United States, believes using cluster bombs is a war crime.


But it is OK to use them on their own soil (Crimea) to defend themselves from illegal invaders.

When Ukraine starts spamming Russian civilian centers with massive rocket attacks like Russia has been doing to Ukrainian cities for the past 3 years, then they will be even.
4026   WookieMan   2024 Jun 25, 5:45pm  

Massive assumption Russia has functioning nukes. You attack another country first, you lost any civilian shield in my opinion. They would have used tactical by now. Russia is pussy. Not much else to it.

Regardless of nukes, Russia/USSR has been fucktards for the better part of 4-5 decades. Russia is a 3rd world country with a few pretty cities. It's a shit hole. Not a person can deny this.
4027   FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden   2024 Jun 25, 5:53pm  

WookieMan says

Massive assumption Russia has functioning nukes. You attack another country first, you lost any civilian shield in my opinion. They would have used tactical by now. Russia is pussy. Not much else to it.

Regardless of nukes, Russia/USSR has been fucktards for the better part of 4-5 decades. Russia is a 3rd world country with a few pretty cities. It's a shit hole. Not a person can deny this.


they have nukes, their missiles are fast. we can’t shoot them down yet. however no nation will use nukes. nukes aren’t that powerful to turn the war, and their biggest threat is fear of them. the only nation to ever nuke was US in Japan.
4030   Patrick   2024 Jun 28, 2:05pm  

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/beat-medicare-friday-june-28-2024


Yesterday, the Hindustan Times reported what might be great news, although we’ve seen this head-fake before, in an article headlined, “Zelensky’s Big Admission Of Defeat? Says ‘Don’t Want To Prolong War’; Says This On Peace Deal.” Right after putting the U.S. in Russia’s direct crosshairs by massacering Russian beachgoers, the skillful pianist and top comedian has, at long last, committed to a settlement. One wonders whether a call was made. Here’s what Ukraine’s former president said:





Maybe related to the realization that the criminals in the US State Department are likely to be removed soon.
4031   DOGEWontAmountToShit   2024 Jun 28, 2:11pm  

Patrick says

Maybe related to the realization that the criminals in the US State Department are likely to be removed soon.


Naaahhh....that has to be TOO MUCH of a coincidence, I am sure (smirk).

Now, if all of a sudden our European 'allies' were to suddenly announce massive increases in NATO defense spending - both individually as well as collectively - at this time, well then you may be onto something.
4032   Onvacation   2024 Jun 29, 6:13am  

socal2 says

But it is OK to use them on their own soil (Crimea) to defend themselves from illegal invaders.

It's never OK to kill women and children.
4035   Patrick   2024 Jun 29, 11:24pm  

Huh, Sachs says that the moratorium on making viruses more infectious to humans was lifted during the Trump administration.
4036   SoTex   2024 Jun 30, 10:15am  

Onvacation says

It's never OK to kill women and children.


I make an exception for children of the corn.
4037   Ceffer   2024 Jun 30, 11:58am  

SoTex says

I make an exception for children of the corn.



4039   yawaraf   2024 Jun 30, 1:34pm  

Patrick,

For the sake of argument let's say that your assesment is correct and that only the actions of the United States are to blame for the Russian-Ukrainian war.

What do you think would have happened if the United States had not extended its sphere of influence and had not offered military protection to the countries East of the Iron Curtain?

Do you think that Russia would not have invaded, even unprovoked?

I don't think that small and weak countries can exist independently next to powerful countries. The powerful impose their will on the weak. Ironically, I will present our Southern border as an example. Right now we are weak because the illegals show up and we give them rights. Were we to project power, by shooting those who attempt illegal crossings, very few would dare to sneak across the border.

How else besides joining NATO would the Eastern Europeans project power against the Russians?
4040   Onvacation   2024 Jun 30, 2:46pm  

yawaraf says

Were we to project power, by shooting those who attempt illegal crossings, very few would dare to sneak across the border.

Brilliant!
4042   FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden   2024 Jul 1, 6:46pm  

Onvacation says

yawaraf says


Were we to project power, by shooting those who attempt illegal crossings, very few would dare to sneak across the border.

Brilliant!


or make it felony to hire illegals, all those businesses would stop hiring them and bringing them here.
4043   Booger   2024 Jul 2, 3:46pm  

I do have to give Russia credit for respecting history by using the same tactics and equipment when they tried to take over Finland back in the winter war.
4046   Patrick   2024 Jul 13, 10:01am  

https://jameshowardkunstler.substack.com/p/the-cover-your-ass-olympics


... the Democratic Party has turned obviously insane, adopting a playbook that could have been written by Franz Kafka.

Being likewise insane, the intel blob and the neocons at State harbored an unappeasable hatred toward Russia that, since the Soviet collapse, allowed no accommodation and gelled into a naked avarice for seizing the resources of Russia with a long-term plan to subvert the Russian state, break it up the way they broke up Serbia in the 1990s, and direct a corporate looting operation of Russia’s oil and mineral riches. Ukraine was the doorway they had to go through to get that done.

And so, the blob and State neocons overthrew democratically-elected Viktor Yanukovych in 2014, and installed Poroshenko followed by Zelensky. Veep “Joe Biden” was given the Ukraine “portfolio,” making him a sort of viceroy, and he took full advantage, plopping his son Hunter on the board of Burisma, the huge Ukrainian natgas company that American oil and gas companies drooled over. Hunter managed to milk the Ukrainian government for tribute to the Biden Family bank accounts far above the roughly million-dollar-a-year salary he grifted from his no-show job on the Burisma board. (Hunter also apparently dabbled in a set of bioweapons labs set up in Ukraine by the CIA.) Thus, along with the sheer insanity of the CIA and State Department, the Biden family had a deep and criminal involvement in Ukraine that had to be concealed.

That degenerate relationship has been revealed since the discovery of the laptop that Hunter stupidly left in a Wilmington computer repair shop, and all the disclosures that have followed — including the sedulous recovery of bank records for the many shell companies the Bidens used to conceal their moneygrubbing in Ukraine and other foreign lands. When Mr. Trump first scented it in the fall of 2019, they impeached him for it. But now that he threatens to return to the White House, the blobists and the Bidens are running out of options to evade an accounting for all this mischief. That desperation is what drives disintegrating “Joe Biden” to remain president and to continue pressing the malevolent and foolish proxy war against hobgoblin Russia and its vilified president, Mr. Putin. So, now you know.
4047   stereotomy   2024 Jul 13, 11:43am  

I have no doubt that the neocon descendants of Jews fleeing the pogroms of the Russian Empire (Blinken, Nuland, et.al.), that have dictated US foreign policy since Shrub, thirst for the complete immolation and destruction of Russia. It's blood revenge, completely irrational, born of unquenchable hate.

They are driving us to WWIII. Even a dozen megaton nukes would ruin the world for the next 200 years. There should be hangings for these insane fuckers as well.
4048   DOGEWontAmountToShit   2024 Jul 19, 9:52am  

A message being sent out to the others: Zekensky gets his cut, or else.


4052   Patrick   2024 Jul 21, 6:33am  

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/breaking-through-sunday-july-21-2024





There’s no new information today, but note that none of Biden’s neocons ever mention “peace,” the “cost of so many lives,” the “devastated innocent families,” “ending the violence,” or paving a “path forward to prosperity.”

Only President Trump talks about those things.
4054   Patrick   2024 Jul 23, 1:40pm  

https://x.com/BowesChay/status/1815464290453004585


@BowesChay
Dear US Tax payers

Just to let you know, that while you struggle to pay your rent, educate your kids and save something for a "rainy day"

The Pentagon "accidentally" paid Dictator Zelensky an Extra $6.2 billion of your money

"An accounting error"
4055   RayAmerica   2024 Jul 23, 7:18pm  

Patrick says

There’s no new information today, but note that none of Biden’s neocons ever mention “peace,” the “cost of so many lives,” the “devastated innocent families,” “ending the violence,” or paving a “path forward to prosperity.”

Only President Trump talks about those things.

It's one of the primary reasons why they want to take him out. With $Hundreds of Billions floating around in off shore accounts, there is just too much to lose to have some patriot that is running for President to get in their way.
4056   RWSGFY   2024 Jul 23, 9:02pm  

Patrick says


https://x.com/BowesChay/status/1815464290453004585


BowesChay
Dear US Tax payers

Just to let you know, that while you struggle to pay your rent, educate your kids and save something for a "rainy day"

The Pentagon "accidentally" paid Dictator Zelensky an Extra $6.2 billion of your money

"An accounting error"




Pentagon didn't pay anything to any zelensky: at best it could transfer some obsolete weaponry and ammo which some 30 years ago had this kind of accounting value and was purchased for this exact purpose - repelling aggressive Soviets. Which means we really saved money because we didn't have to pay for disposal of all that crap, which is not a trivial expense.

And what all this libby talk about "struggling families"? It's not government's business if some lazy bums are "struggling" or not. Pull your shit together, learn some in-demand trade (plumbing, welding, Java, AI - it's up to you) and put that food on your family's table! No support for wellfare queens from true conservatives!
4057   Patrick   2024 Jul 24, 9:49am  

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/delegation-wednesday-july-24-2024


Yesterday, just days after his phone call with post-nomination Trump, Zelensky’s tone seems to have … changed. At a minor press event somewhere, the martial law administrator said, and I am not making this up either, “We have to end the war as soon as possible ... of course, to not lose people's lives.”

My goodness! The empathetic former president is finally connecting with the plight of his citizens. Stop the loss of life!

Note: No media covered this press conference, and I couldn’t find any details. But I thought it was interesting enough to include anyway, since I found confirmation of Ukraine’s sudden and unexpected diplomatic tone in a Tass article headlined, “Top Ukrainian diplomat says Kiev ready for talks with Russia — Chinese MFA.”

It only took one phone call. And Trump’s not even President yet.
4058   Patrick   2024 Jul 25, 2:41pm  

https://words.mattiasdesmet.org/p/the-trump-assassination-attempt-the


So, I repeat my point: with Trump, the provocation of Russia stops, and the war in Ukraine ends. Presidents who threaten to end wars are sometimes shot at by lone gunmen. And those lone gunmen are, in turn, shot dead. And the archives about that remarkable act of lone gunmen sometimes remain sealed for a remarkably long time, much longer than they usually do.

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