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Greeted like Liberators: Ukraine Invasion Thread


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2022 Feb 23, 8:30pm   368,384 views  4,040 comments

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4017   Patrick   2024 Jun 25, 4:17pm  

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/bearish-tuesday-june-25-2024-c-and


Pursuant to Biden’s new policy allowing Ukraine to fire U.S.-supplied weapons into Russian territory, on Sunday Ukraine fired U.S. ATACMS missiles at the Crimean city of Sevastopol. The missiles were equipped with cluster bombs, which are designed only to kill unarmored personnel, meaning people, not tanks or planes or bases or anything.

Just about every country on Earth, except a very few like North Korea and the United States, believes using cluster bombs is a war crime.

Most of Ukraine’s missiles aimed at the Russian city were intercepted by Russia’s air defenses. But one exploded over a crowded beach, causing scores of deaths and hundreds of injuries, including dozens of children.

The pictures are awful.

Ukraine fanatics will argue whataboutism, or say it’s only fair since Russia attacked them first, or something similarly myopic. The main difference is Russia is a near-peer, first world, nuclear armed adversary. As much as Ukrainian die-hards would love to see the U.S. and Russia trade nukes, that will teach them!, the rest of us would prefer not to have to start building bunkers and stocking bugout bags.

Make no mistake. We will pay a price for this. According to the UK Daily Mail, Russia summoned the U.S. Ambassador in Moscow, Lynne Tracy, and warned her that the attack would “not go unpunished. Retaliatory measures will definitely follow.” Americans will likely die so that the Ukrainians can temporarily enjoy a little Schadenfreudey, Pyrrhic victory against unarmed non-combatants on a beach in Russia. ...

I keep asking, where is Congress? Those chickenhawks should either officially declare war, or else shut this down before things get any hotter. Whatever game Biden thinks he’s playing, maybe tic-tac-toe, it isn’t worth it.


Congress is owned by Raytheon and the Epstein pictures.
4018   Patrick   2024 Jun 25, 4:27pm  

https://rwmalonemd.substack.com/p/rfk-jr-is-right-nato-must-be-disbanded


Are you willing to die, along with your entire family and everyone you’ve ever known, to restore the 1961 borders of Ukraine instead of reaching a compromise and a ceasefire in its war with Russia? How about to ensure that LGBT ideology advances in Catholic Poland? Do you support the German establishment’s efforts to outlaw its most popular, patriotic political party? Or the EU’s blackmail of Hungary, fining it millions of dollars a day as long as it refuses to cede control of its immigration policy to Brussels?

Because those are the de facto missions of NATO, and the European Union which it protects with billions of borrowed U.S. dollars. Rather than having those nations spend money on their own defense, they can spend ours to censor their media, persecute biblical preachers who object to trans ideology, prosecute homeschoolers, and seize land from farmers in the name of preventing “climate change.” ...

The anti-Christian oligarchs who rule Western Europe, increasingly despite the will of those countries’ peoples, rely on the NATO alliance to secure their independence with the threat that the United States will launch a suicidal nuclear war in defense of (you name the place: Turkey, Latvia, Finland, etc.). In theory, if Turkey went to war with Greece (not an absurd scenario at this point) we’d be committed to fight for each side against the other.



4019   socal2   2024 Jun 25, 4:30pm  

Patrick says

Just about every country on Earth, except a very few like North Korea and the United States, believes using cluster bombs is a war crime.


But it is OK to use them on their own soil (Crimea) to defend themselves from illegal invaders.

When Ukraine starts spamming Russian civilian centers with massive rocket attacks like Russia has been doing to Ukrainian cities for the past 3 years, then they will be even.
4026   WookieMan   2024 Jun 25, 5:45pm  

Massive assumption Russia has functioning nukes. You attack another country first, you lost any civilian shield in my opinion. They would have used tactical by now. Russia is pussy. Not much else to it.

Regardless of nukes, Russia/USSR has been fucktards for the better part of 4-5 decades. Russia is a 3rd world country with a few pretty cities. It's a shit hole. Not a person can deny this.
4027   FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden   2024 Jun 25, 5:53pm  

WookieMan says

Massive assumption Russia has functioning nukes. You attack another country first, you lost any civilian shield in my opinion. They would have used tactical by now. Russia is pussy. Not much else to it.

Regardless of nukes, Russia/USSR has been fucktards for the better part of 4-5 decades. Russia is a 3rd world country with a few pretty cities. It's a shit hole. Not a person can deny this.


they have nukes, their missiles are fast. we can’t shoot them down yet. however no nation will use nukes. nukes aren’t that powerful to turn the war, and their biggest threat is fear of them. the only nation to ever nuke was US in Japan.
4030   Patrick   2024 Jun 28, 2:05pm  

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/beat-medicare-friday-june-28-2024


Yesterday, the Hindustan Times reported what might be great news, although we’ve seen this head-fake before, in an article headlined, “Zelensky’s Big Admission Of Defeat? Says ‘Don’t Want To Prolong War’; Says This On Peace Deal.” Right after putting the U.S. in Russia’s direct crosshairs by massacering Russian beachgoers, the skillful pianist and top comedian has, at long last, committed to a settlement. One wonders whether a call was made. Here’s what Ukraine’s former president said:





Maybe related to the realization that the criminals in the US State Department are likely to be removed soon.
4031   DemocratsAreTotallyFucked   2024 Jun 28, 2:11pm  

Patrick says

Maybe related to the realization that the criminals in the US State Department are likely to be removed soon.


Naaahhh....that has to be TOO MUCH of a coincidence, I am sure (smirk).

Now, if all of a sudden our European 'allies' were to suddenly announce massive increases in NATO defense spending - both individually as well as collectively - at this time, well then you may be onto something.
4032   Onvacation   2024 Jun 29, 6:13am  

socal2 says

But it is OK to use them on their own soil (Crimea) to defend themselves from illegal invaders.

It's never OK to kill women and children.
4035   Patrick   2024 Jun 29, 11:24pm  

Huh, Sachs says that the moratorium on making viruses more infectious to humans was lifted during the Trump administration.
4036   SoTex   2024 Jun 30, 10:15am  

Onvacation says

It's never OK to kill women and children.


I make an exception for children of the corn.
4037   Ceffer   2024 Jun 30, 11:58am  

SoTex says

I make an exception for children of the corn.



4039   yawaraf   2024 Jun 30, 1:34pm  

Patrick,

For the sake of argument let's say that your assesment is correct and that only the actions of the United States are to blame for the Russian-Ukrainian war.

What do you think would have happened if the United States had not extended its sphere of influence and had not offered military protection to the countries East of the Iron Curtain?

Do you think that Russia would not have invaded, even unprovoked?

I don't think that small and weak countries can exist independently next to powerful countries. The powerful impose their will on the weak. Ironically, I will present our Southern border as an example. Right now we are weak because the illegals show up and we give them rights. Were we to project power, by shooting those who attempt illegal crossings, very few would dare to sneak across the border.

How else besides joining NATO would the Eastern Europeans project power against the Russians?
4040   Onvacation   2024 Jun 30, 2:46pm  

yawaraf says

Were we to project power, by shooting those who attempt illegal crossings, very few would dare to sneak across the border.

Brilliant!

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