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richwicks says

I'm pointing out that in the United States, grass roots movement against authority is dealt with harshly and without a trial.

Yes, but still child's play compared to the Great Freedom Beacon of the World, a.k.a. Mother Russia:

Between 1991 and 2004, demonstrations in Russia were regulated by a decree first issued by the Supreme Soviet in 1988 and reaffirmed, with minor modifications, by presidential decrees in 1992 and 1993. In 2004 these were replaced by the Federal Law of the Russian Federation No.54-FZ "On Meetings, Rallies, Demonstrations, Marches and Pickets" (current version signed into law by the President of Russia on 19 June 2004, and came into force on 4 July 2004). If the assembly in public is expected to involve more than one participant, its organisers are obliged to notify executive or local self-government authorities of the upcoming event few days in advance in writing. However, legislation does not foresee an authorisation procedure, hence the authorities have no right to prohibit an assembly or change its place unless it threatens the security of participants or is planned to take place near hazardous facilities, important railways, viaducts, pipelines, high voltage electric power lines, prisons, courts, presidential residences or in the border control zone. The right to gather can also be restricted in close proximity of cultural and historical monuments.

The regional and local authorities can issue secondary regulations, but limitations and prohibitions on public events can only be introduced by Federal Laws. Organisers will be subjected to administrative responsibility for violating a procedure according to Art. 20 of the Administrative Offences Code.

In June 2012, the Russian parliament voted on legislation that sought to raise the fixed fines for holding unsanctioned demonstrations from 5,000 rubles (around $150) to 300,000 rubles (around $10,000) for individual participants and increase to 600,000 rubles for rally organizers. The fine for the demonstration organizers that fail to comply with federal regulations on demonstrations were to increase from 50,000 rubles ($1,160) to 1.5 million rubles ($48,000). Also, protesters would be prohibited to wear masks, carry weapons or objects that could be used as weapons. Rallies cannot be organized by citizens[clarification needed], who have been convicted of a breach of public peace and security or have been subject to administrative penalties for rally violations twice or more times within a year.

Since 2014, holding a demonstration without the permission of authorities, even a peaceful single-person picket, is punishable by a fine or detention of up to 15 days, or up to five years in prison if it is the third breach.

Next POTUS will release and pardon all of Jan 6th prisoners. Next PORF..... whom are we kidding, there will be no next PORF for at least next 20 years (taking into account modern gerontology).

Eric Holder says

richwicks says

Biden is just a meat puppet, just as Obama and George W. Bush were. He has a hand stuck up his asshole to move his mouth.

Whose hand is that?

Well, probably the intelligence agencies. Our presidents seem to have been meat puppets with only MINOR distinctions between them since George H. Bush - our ex-CIA director, was "president".

It's either the intelligence agencies or whoever they work for.

Russian troops have surrounded 40,000 Ukraine troops in Eastern Ukraine in one of their 'cauldron' movements. It's just a matter of time before the Ukraine troops surrender or are destroyed.
Sorry for Bad Tube, Pat.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uJTNJpfeVo&source=patrick.net

BREAKING: POLES FED UP WITH OBAMA HOs*, SAY THEY'LL SEND MiGs TO RAMMSTEIN, LET US HANDLE DELIVERY**
(this is via Posobiec on Bannon)
https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1501291116309712899?s=20&t=dB7D3ACcLsECOXNb7ZtYSw

BREAKING: CHINA DISCUSSES ITS SEOs BUYING STAKES IN GAZPROM, OTHER RUSSIAN COMPANIES.
https://www.bloombergquint.com/china/china-considers-buying-stakes-in-russian-energy-commodity-firms

BREAKING: CHINA CONFIRMS BIOLABS IN UKRAINE BY US OFFICIALS TO AVOID US DOMESTIC RULES ON BIOWEAPONS.
https://www.bloombergquint.com/politics/china-pushes-russia-conspiracy-theory-about-u-s-labs-in-ukraine

UPDATE: NULAND BACKHANDEDLY CONFIRMS BIOLABS IN UKRAINE, EXPRESSES CONCERN ABOUT THEIR OCCUPATION BY RUSSIA
(Live stream of a testimony on Bannon Warroom)

LINK TO BIOLAB EXISTENCE LIMITED HANGOUT BY NULAND AT HEARING: https://thepostmillennial.com/biden-official-us-ukraine-bio-research-facilities-russia
"Ukraine has biological research facilities, which in fact we are now quite concerned Russian troops, Russian forces may be seeking to gain control of."
Ukraine, which had issues buying Anti-Tank Weapons, is funding multiple bioweapon labs?!

* Hold Overs
** They were probably going to do it on the downlow, but State/Nat Sec Obama Ho's leaked to Media and screwed it up.

https://t.me/BenjaminFulfordWDSGroup/44733?source=patrick.net

Ceffer says

https://t.me/BenjaminFulfordWDSGroup/44733?source=patrick.net

Nah, it's for the Russian meat because Putler refuses to take them back. They were stored in refrigerator railcars ready to hand over via Red Cross, but Russians said they don't want them. Gotta keep that domestic calm and apperance that "special operation" is going as planned.

Ukrainians bury their dead soldiers in the military cemeteries, not some fields.

https://mobile.twitter.com/ArmedForcesUkr/status/1501514660503343104?source=patrick.net

(What's with the chainsaw sounds in the background? Doom-2?)

Reinforcements are coming to the Z(ombie) Army:

Another bedframe fail:

https://twitter.com/666_mancer/status/1501613342154240005?source=patrick.net

Ukrainians sink Russian warship that attacked Snake Island – report

The Russian warship that bombed Snake Island in the Black Sea on the first day of the invasion of Ukraine has been destroyed, The Times of London reported on Tuesday.

The report, quoting Ukrainian military sources, said that the large patrol corvette Vasily Bykov was destroyed in a missile attack near the port city of Odesa early Monday.

On February 24, the Russian naval vessel had asked Ukrainian border guards on Snake Island — some 40 kilometers (25 miles) from the border with Romania — to surrender or “be hit with a bomb strike.”

“Russian warship, go fuck yourself,” a Ukrainian border guard replied.

...

Ukrainian small boats lured the Russian patrol boat Vasily Bykov to a camouflaged firing position, where it was shelled. pic.twitter.com/X4weCDacrc

— Ukraine Reporter (@StateOfUkraine) March 7, 2022

Videos shared on social media showed the rocket exchange when the Russian ship was targeted. The video is believed to have been released by the Ukrainian Navy.

PS. If I understand it correctly they hit it with a land-based MLRS.

The video showed a conversation taking place between two men targeting the ship.

“We fucking hit them,” one of the men is heard saying. The second man invokes the Ukrainian soldier’s words from when the island was attacked, saying: “Russian warship, go fuck yourself.”

https://www.timesofisrael.com/russian-warship-that-attacked-snake-island-destroyed-report/?source=patrick.net

HunterTits says

There is also no Ghost of Kyiv, not that it stops CNN from doing stories on him.

This is what I mean by US corporate media bullshit being just as bad or worse than any Russian media bullshit.

https://mobile.twitter.com/bellingcat/status/1501852864850898947?source=patrick.net

RWSGFY says

You must love Biden then: he's just like your beloved Christian Leader Fighting Nazis.

Non sequitur.

HunterTits says

Eric - why do you post complete Ukranian bullshit?

The soldiers on Snake Island surrendered. They did not die to the last Ukey.

Who cares if they ultimately died or not? After Leonidas replied "molon labe" to Xerxes' offer to surrender - they didn't die to the last fighter either. It takes balls to do what Leonidas or these Border Guards did.

I'll give you anothet example of bravery in the face of overwhelming force which didn't end in a single death of the defenders: when Serbs advanced on Srebrenitsa they first tried to go through a checkpoint manned by Brits and basically told them to lay doen their arms and fuck off. The commander of British outfit literally answered "molon labe".The Serbs turned around and went through a different route guarded by Dutch soldiers who did lay down their arms and let them through (and we know how it ended).

So some of the Ukie guards were taken prisoner after they ran out of ammo. It's not about dying or not dying, it's
about balls vs no balls in the moment when you know you can't win but you still choose to fight and risk almost certain death.

Americans used to understand these things. Sadly, it looks like they don't anymore. And judging by bizzare questions like "why would somebody fight for a country with such a low GDP per capita" on this board they don't understand other things they used to understand. Makes me really worried for my country.

Another Su:

https://t.me/ukraina_novosti/18802?source=patrick.net

Video from
the Russian side:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=42&v=2rJZP78d1D4&feature=emb_logo&source=patrick.net

Liberating chickens:

https://youtu.be/2XJi6Us5BQ0?source=patrick.net

Su-34 in Kharkiv:

https://mobile.twitter.com/666_mancer/status/1500821338340184067?source=patrick.net

Hind near Mykolaiv: https://youtu.be/9M2vFzAi_F8?source=patrick.net

Tank column hit by artillery:

https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1501874452090560515?source=patrick.net
https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1501873146818969610?source=patrick.net
https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1501895374939774977?source=patrick.net

Still can't disperse in these fields, eh? Whoever the fuck choose this particular time to fight this war is a true genius. NOT.

Eric Holder says

Tank column hit by artillery:

https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1501874452090560515?source=patrick.net
https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1501873146818969610?source=patrick.net
https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1501895374939774977?source=patrick.net

Still can't disperse in these fields, eh? Whoever the fuck choose this particular time to fight this war is a true genius. NOT.

Russian "forces" is a meme now. They are displaying daily how pathetic their military is and how cowardly they attack innocent refugees.
They would not stand a chance against US or NATO forces. Russian's are only capable of killing children, woman and shelling hospitals.

Eric Holder says

Whoever the fuck choose this particular time to fight this war is a true genius. NOT

They wanted to wait until after the Olympics were over due to optics. If they had invalided earlier the roads might have been frozen enough to not get bogged down in the mud. Clearly they learned nothing from WW2.

RWSGFY says

Who cares if they ultimately died or not?

I care about truth in the press.

RWSGFY says

Who cares if they ultimately died or not? After Leonidas replied "molon labe" to Xerxes' offer to surrender - they didn't die to the last fighter either. It takes balls to do what Leonidas or these Border Guards did.

Sure, IF they did it.

It's a pretty simple rule - once a media outlet starts to lie to you, unless they apologize profusely, explain how they produced the "error", and loudly retract it - you're reading propaganda, and you should just completely ignore it.

But people don't. They keep going back to these liars and keep quoting them over and over again. A propagandist will ONLY be honest with you when it's convenient to be honest. They have ZERO credibility.

Now, 20 years ago, it was aggravating as hell to see people repeating propaganda from Fox news or the NY Times or CNN but in time, people realized these "information sources" were actively deceptive and dishonest and in the last 5 years this has been doubly underscored. 20 years ago, I could forgive people for being so innocent and naive. Not today. People who go to these sources aren't naive and gullible now, they are just outright stupid.

RWSGFY says

Americans used to understand these things. Sadly, it looks like they don't anymore. And judging by bizzare questions like "why would somebody fight for a country with such a low GDP per capita" on this board they don't understand other things they used to understand. Makes me really worried for my country.

You don't seem to be able to distinguish between country and government of a country.

In my country, the United States, we have a puppet regime installed by the CIA who has been trying to restart the Cold War and has kept this nation in war (to our great detriment) for 2 solid decades. If Russia came in to Washington DC and just said "we're here to kill every one of these fucking bastards) 1/2 the country would just celebrate at this point.

Why Ukrainians fight for their PUPPET regime, I have no idea. But it's their country. I think they are foolish to do it, but it's their lives and their deaths. Ultimately, I don't care what they do. I only care when my country is involved with it, and it is. The US overthrew Ukraine in 2014, and if that wasn't done, NONE of this bullshit would be happening.

https://mobile.twitter.com/sentdefender/status/1502011962649198598?source=patrick.net

zzyzzx says

Eric Holder says

Whoever the fuck choose this particular time to fight this war is a true genius. NOT

They wanted to wait until after the Olympics were over due to optics. If they had invalided earlier the roads might have been frozen enough to not get bogged down in the mud. Clearly they learned nothing from WW2.

A low IQ country indeed.

richwicks says

Sure, IF they did it.

The audio was recorded from the airwaves. Even fucking Russians don't deny the exchange has happened as reported and the only part of the story they contested was the "they all died" part. Which was fair assumption at the moment the whole story was reported. Are Russians in on the hoax too?

richwicks says

The US overthrew Ukraine in 2014

You can repeat this bullshit until you're blue in the face, but the facts on the ground do not support it. The only thing which happened in 2014 is some guy who was their President has left in a haste after overreacting to protests and fearing he'd be held responsible for the overly harsh attempts to put them dow, resulting in 100+ deaths. The Parliament remained. Which is, incidentally, the main source of the legitimacy in that country. (Just like in the US, btw). Then they held a presidential election. And then they held parliamental elections. And then they held another presidential election. And a parliamental election after that again. All of which were monitored by various international organizations and accepted as free and fair. Even fucking Russia accepted these elections and their results EVERY FUCKING TIME. And at every election the mix of political parties in power changed, so the guy who became the President after the first election is not the guy in power now and the party which held the power then is not the party in power now.

IF THE US HAS SUPPOSEDLY INSTALLED THEIR PUPPET IN 2014 WHERE THE FUCK IS THAT PUPPET NOW, IN 2022?

richwicks says

CIA who has been trying to restart the Cold War

I wish they were restarting the Cold War.

Back then, we did NOTHING without carefully double and triple checking, lest we create a precedent for the Soviets to do the same to us somewhere else. And that it wouldn't be viewed as an existential threat by Russia, put the squeeze on them, but not back them into a corner.

Thanks to Kosovo, and now installing biolabs researching "pathogens" and funded by the DoD in Ukraine, we created some shit precedent, which the Russians are using. And our whole involvement in the Ukraine was to create Existential threats to Russia.

We have either MORONS or EVIL BASTARDS running things the past 20-25 years, including Republicans as well as Democrats. From Foreign Policy to Domestic Policy to Fiscal Policy. They have a great Marketing Department though.

AmericanKulak says

richwicks says

CIA who has been trying to restart the Cold War

I wish they were restarting the Cold War.

Back then, we did NOTHING without carefully double and triple checking, lest we create a precedent for the Soviets to do the same to us somewhere else.

Thanks to Kosovo, and now installing biolabs researching "pathogens" and funded by the DoD in Ukraine, we created some shit precedent, which the Russians are using.

Wait, so the whole war thing is not really about imminent danger of being attacked? It's a war of choice to put a thumb into the US's eye? Man, the narrative for supposed reasons for this war changes so fast, it's hard to follow.

First it was "NATO is about to attack Russia, so they had no choice and no time", then it was "But but, muh Nazis!", now it's "we do Kosovo to them, because they did Kosovo to Serbs"?

Two weeks into the "operation" and after countless terabytes of fake CGI footage of burned tanks and downed aircraft, has a single real video of true events on the ground emerged? Like, say, liberators being greeted with flowers, bread-and-salt, you know, the thing.

Eric Holder says

richwicks says

Sure, IF they did it.

The audio was recorded from the airwaves.

How do you know?

Eric Holder says

Even fucking Russians don't deny the exchange has happened as reported and the only part of the story they contested was the "they all died" part.

Again, how do you know?

We live in a country where our news media is blatant propaganda, and lies to us constantly. They just lied about a fucking pandemic for 2 years. They lied about who was elected as president. There's no credibility left.

Here's the extent of what we know about Ukraine. We know Ukraine was overthrown in 2014 and that Putin CLAIMS he doesn't want to have NATO weaponry in Ukraine. That's it. The rest is speculation and propaganda.

Western authorities have ZERO credibility at this point. They will lie about anything. They lied about audio recordings on MH17 - remember that? And they're fucking BAD at it. That they will so blatantly, and OBVIOUSLY lie, it makes them entirely unbelievable at this point. Anything they say, and I mean anything they say at this point should be assumed to be a lie first, and only accepted as truth MUCH later on.

That's the quality of our leadership today. I accept it. You SHOULD accept it, but you don't for some bizarre reason. I mean, how much more obvious does it have to get? Can it even be more obvious? We have a president that was installed that is completely senile who was accepting bribes through his crack head son in Ukraine, and you think that THOSE people are the good guys? How naive are you? They are no good guys really, but the piece of shits running THE US? They clearly aren't. You're rooting for a fuck that wasn't elected, is a puppet in the executive office, who OPENLY sells access to the office by having his crack head son, make "art" now.

Just own up to it.

Eric Holder says

Wait, so the whole war thing is not really about imminent danger of being attacked? It's a war of choice to put a thumb into the US's eye? Man, the narrative for supposed reasons for this war changes so fast, it's hard to follow.

Already answered:

AmericanKulak says

Thanks to Kosovo, and now installing biolabs researching "pathogens" and funded by the DoD in Ukraine, we created some shit precedent, which the Russians are using. And our whole involvement in the Ukraine was to create Existential threats to Russia.

I added that a minute or two after the original post, before you replied, so perhaps you answered by original post.

Ukraine IS an existential threat just like Russia or China in Mexico is an Existential Threat to us. Period, end of story, no Georgetown IR Bullshit, real Politik.

Would you tolerate People's Liberation Army funded "Biolabs" in Mexico?

Eric Holder says

richwicks says

The US overthrew Ukraine in 2014

You can repeat this bullshit until you're blue in the face,

I can do better than that. I can prove it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5n8UbJ8jsk&source=patrick.net

This recording was made a month before the Maidan revolution. This isn't up for discussion, there's no possibility for error or mistake or misunderstanding here. There is NO QUESTION the US installed a puppet, NONE.

The US overthrew Ukraine in a coup. Nuland is indicating who the next leader of Ukraine will be, a month before the "revolution". There's no way she could have done this if the revolution was a revolution - it was a coup. The United States picked the next leader, and you're being intentionally naive and ignorant if you believe they had no sway in who the next leaders would be.

Look, if you actually think it was a revolution that's fine, but you're incorrect. We're all fooled by propaganda from time to time.

You don't seem to accept primary sources as information. I have to wonder about this. I don't make the error of thinking people are stupid, people are rarely stupid - but they are frequently dishonest. I think you are dishonest.

Two telling things after the Coup:

The new Government leapt to remove the Neutrality Clause from their Constitution that was in place since the Independence of the Ukraine in the early 90s.

Donetsk and Luhansk left Ukraine because of the "Steal".

What did the President do to deserve a Coup?

70%+ of Ukrainian trade was with Russia alone. They were reminded if they applied to the EU, the Free Trade agreement with Russia would have to be modified. Yanukovych, duly and legally elected, explained the situation and used his perfectly legal veto powers against the Parliaments vote to join the EU. This was after HE HIMSELF had worked to negotiate EU Association membership. Under the Constitution, the Parliament did not have the ability or overwhelming majority to override his veto.

Then all hell broke lose, very strange things like unknown snipers and protesters FOR Yanukovych being burned alive in Odessa.

AmericanKulak says

We have either MORONS or EVIL BASTARDS running things the past 20-25 years, including Republicans as well as Democrats.

They are evil bastards.

Our government murdered between 100,000 and 1,000,000 Iraqis over a lie they knew was a lie. They aren't stupid, they are sociopaths.

Our enemies are domestic, not international. Do they respect the constitution? They hate us. It's obvious they do. You think $7 a gallon gas is a mistake? They are purposely trying to cripple the middle class, and they despise the poor.

They just overthrew our nation. Do you really think Biden won? I don't. It would mean he's the most popular presidential candidate in history - this asshole that couldn't get 50 people to show up to a campaign event. A mafia runs our nation.

richwicks says

A mafia runs our nation.

I think the US is much more similar in that way to Russia than most Americans want to believe.

Patrick says

richwicks says

A mafia runs our nation.

I think the US is much more similar in that way to Russia than most Americans want to believe.

They first step to fixing a problem is realizing that the problem exists.

I have a great deal of hope. Censorship and promotion of propaganda isn't a sign of strength in my opinion, it's a sign of desperation.

Patrick says

richwicks says

A mafia runs our nation.

I think the US is much more similar in that way to Russia than most Americans want to believe.

Right down to the Oligarchs, but ours are named Gates, Bezos, and Soros.

Sergei Lavrov yesterday:

"We do not plan to attack other countries; we did not attack Ukraine either."


In other news: Babylon Bee is going out of business.