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Greeted like Liberators: Ukraine Invasion Thread


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2022 Feb 23, 8:30pm   433,010 views  4,188 comments

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2363   socal2   2023 May 31, 5:41pm  

The_Deplorable says

Prigozhin is a friend of Putin and Putin doesn't mind the Prigozhin lose cannon.


Prigozhin said the Ukrainian army is much bigger and better trained and armed now than it was a year ago when the invasion first started.

Yet you say that Ukraine has no army at all........or that it is greatly reduced from last year?
2364   mell   2023 May 31, 5:47pm  

socal2 says


The_Deplorable says


Prigozhin is a friend of Putin and Putin doesn't mind the Prigozhin lose cannon.


Prigozhin said the Ukrainian army is much bigger and better trained and armed now than it was a year ago when the invasion first started.

Yet you say that Ukraine has no army at all........or that it is greatly reduced from last year?


Nobody knows what the real numbers are, it's all propaganda. But it's foolish to clamor to some Putin-hating or Russian-hating narrative or feelings and wanting him to lose badly, Russia certainly isn't losing and has all the time of the world to make everyone fed up with this senseless proxy war. They don't need to win, just keep going and occupy crimea and donbass until people will stop supporting throwing money at the Ukrainians govt which does not benefit its people. Negotiations will end the senseless killings immediately.
2365   Ceffer   2023 May 31, 11:18pm  

Last Ukrainian navy combat ship sunk in Odessa. Odessa gird your loins, you're next?

2366   The_Deplorable   2023 Jun 1, 12:57pm  

socal2 says

"Prigozhin said the Ukrainian army is much bigger and better trained and armed now than it was a year ago when the invasion first started."

Then how come Eastern Ukraine is now part of Russia? No answer.

"Yet you say that Ukraine has no army at all........or that it is greatly reduced from last year?"

Ukraine does not have an army and that is why their famous spring counteroffensive did not happen. Russia just captured Bakhmut where Ukraine lost over 50,000 soldiers.
2367   Patrick   2023 Jun 3, 10:56pm  

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/parasitic-prostitutes-thursday-june?publication_id=463409&post_id=125277192&isFreemail=true


Reliable information about the sordid story has been hard to get hold of. But from various news reports I could stitch together it involves a cast of characters not even Hollywood could make up: a baby trading scheme with a now-jailed Native American Indian chief wherein Leavitt purchased a daughter in exchange for a used car, a peyote-fueled gay hypnotherapist — now arrested for abusing hypnotized patients, a bigger-than-life scam to bilk the federal government for funding shipments of live buffalo to Eastern Europe from Native American lands, and the weirdest, timeliest connection of all: Leavitt’s business partner was the former president of, wait for it, Ukraine.

Victor Yuschenko.

Yuschenko wasn’t just any former Ukraine president. He was instrumental in the Deep State-fueled Orange Revolution, which toppled Ukraine’s democratically-elected but inconveniently pro-Russian Viktor Yanukovych, and ultimately wound up installing actor-qua-war leader Zelenskyy.

For some unexplained reason, after Yuschenko finished assisting the U.S.’s Deep State in overthrowing Yanukovych, he moved on to Utah. The former Ukrainian National Bank President somehow got wrapped up with disgraced baby-trading Utah district attorney David Leavitt, who stands credibly accused of involvement in a large satanic pedophile ring, not to mention the cannibalism thing or the buffalo scam, in which the two partners intended the ship the hapless, wooly animals to Ukraine, and who knows what would happen to the poor beasts once they got there.
2368   Patrick   2023 Jun 3, 11:00pm  

Ibid:


Katya, hold the chicken Kyiv! I rubbed my throbbing eyes in disbelief. What did CNN just casually say?

CNN said that the documents the House wants came from UKRAINE. Ukraine, again! And it said Bill Barr got them from Rudy Guiliani before the election. And then Bill Barr buried the incriminating documents under a government buffalo pen in Philadelphia, underneath a stack of cow patties so deep that even now the House is struggling to dig them out of the FBI’s top-secret manure mound.

You’ll remember, I’m sure, the Deep State’s allergic reaction to Trump’s single phone call asking Ukraine for information about Joe Biden’s “activities” there, which lead to Trump Impeachment Circus Number One. They called Trump’s call “election interference.” Kind of like how burying the Hunter Biden laptop story was election interface, but the good kind, but I digress.

I am also sure you will keenly recall Joe Biden’s famous hot-mic brag that he extorted Ukraine into firing its Prosecutor General, Viktor Shokin, who was allegedly investigating him for bribery and who knows what else. Maybe cannibalistic pedophile stuff, who knows.

Anyway, who wants to bet that the Ukrainian documents Rudy Guiliani gave Bill Barr came from the fired prosecutor general, then Barr made them disappear, and now Wray is protecting them?

Oh wait, CNN confirmed the Comer document WAS one of Guiliani’s Ukrainian documents...

In other words, it’s starting to look like there is a WHOLE lot more to this Biden Bribery document than was originally advertised.

And how come every time some truly reprehensible crime story appears, there’s aways a link to Ukraine somewhere? Or is it just my imagination?
2370   Patrick   2023 Jun 5, 10:54am  

https://kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/whats-next/


Have you forgotten our Ukraine project (Let’s you and him fight)? The idea was to bleed Russia dry because, you know… Russia! (They meddle in our elections… they collude with Trump… they tamper with our hopes and dreams….) It was years in the making, impeccably gamed-out in the State Department’s sub-basement. Secret Agent Man Hunter Biden, the then vice-president’s son, was even installed in the dark heart of Ukraine’s power center to… to do what, exactly? Never mind, because what secret agent men do is… secret!

The Ukraine bear trap was supposed to put Russia out-of-business for the foreseeable future. Didn’t work out. The crowning act of boobery was our demolition of the Nord Stream natgas pipelines, which had the predictable effect of putting our NATO allies out-of-business, while Russia turned around and found other customers for its gas. ...

So, let’s face it: Ukraine flopped. The main result of the Ukraine project is that it destroyed the tiny shred of what was left of America’s reputation for acting the global hegemon. In fact, Ukraine revealed that Russia has better weapons than we have (China, too) and that, given the emergence of hypersonic missiles, our gazillion-dollar aircraft carrier fleets are as obsolete as Roman triremes and liburnae. So, what’s our Plan B for defending Taiwan? (Hint: there is none.)

What’s next? Western Europe, facing its own collapse, will turn on America and refuse to continue pretending it can help out in Ukraine. NATO falls apart. (What to do with those vacant office buildings and idle employees?) Europe will have enough problems with its cratering industries and banking system. It may even be obvious to a few heads-of-state that the best outcome is to simply allow Russia to pacify and demilitarize the age-old borderland. After all, for the rolling decades since World War Two, Ukraine was not a problem for anyone until America made it one.
2371   socal2   2023 Jun 5, 12:40pm  

Patrick says

So, let’s face it: Ukraine flopped. The main result of the Ukraine project is that it destroyed the tiny shred of what was left of America’s reputation for acting the global hegemon. In fact, Ukraine revealed that Russia has better weapons than we have (China, too) and that, given the emergence of hypersonic missiles, our gazillion-dollar aircraft carrier fleets are as obsolete as Roman triremes and liburnae. So, what’s our Plan B for defending Taiwan? (Hint: there is none.)


Just alternate universes! Makes me question all of Kunstler's musings going forward.

There is alot of uncertainty in this war, but to categorically claim that Ukraine flopped is retarded. Did anyone really think 15 months ago that Russia would have to do major mobilizations and burn through their Wagner prisoners to occupy and defend less land than they had back in March 2022?

Just watch all the propagandists on Russian TV. They sure as shit don't think Ukraine flopped. Prigozhin is saying that Ukraine's military is stronger and more united now than it was before the war.
2372   richwicks   2023 Jun 5, 12:49pm  

socal2 says


There is alot of uncertainty in this war, but to categorically claim that Ukraine flopped is retarded. Did anyone really think 15 months ago that Russia would have to do major mobilizations and burn through their Wagner prisoners to occupy and defend less land than they had back in March 2022?


I predicted it would be a war of attrition before the war began:

https://patrick.net/post/1343140/2021-12-29-a-ukraine-war-and-the-end-of-russia?start=1#comment-1808895

The point of this war isn't to win it, it's to drain resources of the other side. The US, for some STUPID reason thinks that Russia needs "money" and in particular "American money". Russia thinks that the US and Europe need raw materials, food, and energy and will suffer shortages of them now matter how much "money" they have because of 40 years of neglect of infrastructures.

Gee, who will turn out to be right?

The MIC doesn't give a shit, they are making TONS of money off from war profiteering. They want the war to go on forever themselves. IF it destroys this nation? Well, they won't consider it their fault.

In truth, I don't even know if the Neocons who started this shit show particularly care about the nation. These are the same assholes that engineered 9/11 and wrote that incredibly stupid paper called "Rebuilding America's Defenses". It's really hard to tell if they are just fucking liars, are if they actually believe all their own bullshit. If they do believe their bullshit, they are insane.

https://cryptome.org/rad.htm

You have complete lunatics running the country, and they're obviously lunatics, it's very easy to show they are. Nobody cares. Nobody listens. I guess the country does deserve to fail.
2373   richwicks   2023 Jun 5, 12:57pm  

RWSGFY says

Fucking "superpower", with "second military in the world" over which amoebas like McGregor and his disciples are pissing their collective bed every night can't fucking close airspace over the capital and fucking Kremlin in particilar and from what - fucking slow and noisy drones. Nothing has changed since 1987 when Mattias Rust landed a Cessna-172 (a Cessna, Karl!) on Red fucking Square. Muahahahaha!


I would like to point out that a commercial airliner her the headquarters of the Department of Defense on 9/11 in Washington DC which is the most highly restricted airspace in the United States.

Of course, I think this was intended to happen. I think that was a false flag.
2374   richwicks   2023 Jun 5, 12:59pm  

WookieMan says

Both sides are. This has been the most unreported war I've witnessed in my lifetime.


Oh come, no it isn't. We're at war with Syria, did you know that? How about Yemen and Somalia? We were at war in Afghanistan for 20 years, I remember trying to find out ANY information about what was going on there in 2013 and 2014, I wasn't even certain the war was going on.

This happens all the time. Out of sight, out of mind.
2375   Ceffer   2023 Jun 5, 1:54pm  

There are obviously a lot of consumers of concierge propaganda, set out in a buffet to accommodate wishful thinking requirements.

Ukraine is a walking zombie that doesn't know it's dead yet, animated by extreme Western outpatient care. Any other conclusion is, or should be, embarrassing to the promulgator.
2377   RWSGFY   2023 Jun 6, 9:00am  

"I love the smell
of phosphorus in the morning....":

https://twitter.com/albafella1/status/1665151425272328192?ref_src=patrick.net
2378   fdhfoiehfeoi   2023 Jun 6, 9:06am  

So apparently some dam was blown up, not clear by whom as Ukraine had it on their list of last resort things to do. May line up with a report Ukraine's big offensive was stopped dead in it's tracks...
2382   AmericanKulak   2023 Jun 7, 10:52am  

“If you have a neck wound, you have 90 seconds to put on a tourniquet, told the group of soldiers in a training ground in Kharkiv Oblast near the Russian border this week. “Or you will likely die.”
https://web.archive.org/web/20230607163146/https://www.thedailybeast.com/ukraine-fears-military-recruitment-crisis-in-the-war-against-russias-army?ref=home?ref=home


Yeah, tighten that torniquet around your neck wound real tight. Make sure your carotid arteries have firm pressure on them.
2383   Patrick   2023 Jun 9, 10:34am  




The money laundering continues even now.
2384   Ceffer   2023 Jun 9, 11:32am  

Estimated over two thirds to three fourths of the 'weapons' wind up on the black market? Biden et alia. selling the weapons for kickbacks?
Benjamin Fulford says that Zelensky was giving positions around Bakhmut to the Wagner force because he is funneling slavs into the charnel houses for the Khazarian Mafia Chabad faction in Ukraine, and Wagner is also KM controlled.

An interviewer put it up to Z that he was implicated in the slaughter, and Z freaked out. Fulford says this is why Z is afraid to go back to his Nazi buddies in Ukraine, who may have figured it out, and why Wagner was deprived of ammunition, because Russia was shocked as well by the one way slaughter.
2385   zzyzzx   2023 Jun 9, 11:42am  

Patrick says







If you studied Russian military history, the Russian army is famous for scorched earth when retreating. One of the reasons why hates Russians is that they periodically burn down everyone's house when retreating. In this case they flooded instead of burning (and the Soviets destroyed this dam in WW2 as they were retreating).

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/nov/02/second-world-war-dnieper-dam-blown-up-by-russians-1941

Second world war: Dnieper dam blown up by Russians – archive, 1941

Stalin’s secret police blew up the dam in an attempt to slow the advance of Nazi German troops as they swept through Soviet-era Ukraine

The destruction of the Dnieper dam, which fed the most powerful hydroelectric plant in Europe and took eight years to complete, is the most spectacular act of destruction in Russia since the burning of Moscow in 1812.

The dam supplied power to large agricultural and industrial areas on both sides of the Dnieper, and was an outstanding symbol of Soviet industrial civilization.
2386   Ceffer   2023 Jun 11, 12:09am  

Not to mention the rumors of Z (originally Russian) padding his options by providing Russian military with strategic information about troops and placements. Oh, well it's only a big pile of dead Slavs and mercenaries. On the bright side, the dead mean there are lots of organs to sell, women to enslave, and children to move into the child trafficking markets.



2387   socal2   2023 Jun 11, 9:12am  

I think the coming few weeks will be decisive one way or the other.

This is a pretty impressive drone video showing Ukrainians rolling up close to a Russian trench with Humvees and clearing it out with infantry.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlJKpz6WQXU&t=1s
2388   Ceffer   2023 Jun 11, 1:27pm  

"SORCHA 6/11: "Gaslighted Into Oblivion America Forced To Believe Ukraine Is Winning, Trump Is Guilty And Biden Is Innocent""
Choose your buffet of propaganda poison with gaslight dressing?
https://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=224139

2389   FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden   2023 Jun 11, 2:10pm  

Ceffer says

"SORCHA 6/11: "Gaslighted Into Oblivion America Forced To Believe Ukraine Is Winning, Trump Is Guilty And Biden Is Innocent""
Choose your buffet of propaganda poison with gaslight dressing?
https://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=224139




how are we different from ussr? oh, we got gay pride! rest is fucking same
2391   Ceffer   2023 Jun 11, 7:41pm  

I think "massive losses" is the Ukranian Army's middle name. Why they don't just shoot their commanders and raise the white flag and run over to Russia, I don't know.

https://t.me/gatewaypunditofficial/30872

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/06/ukrainian-counteroffensive-has-begun-heavy-fighting-zaporozhie-kievs/
2392   Ceffer   2023 Jun 11, 7:44pm  

I can tell you, no matter what the election fraud KommieKunts try, even in California the vast majority of the State outside of the feral, degraded cities will NOT give up their guns.

https://t.me/gatewaypunditofficial/30875
2393   Ceffer   2023 Jun 11, 10:46pm  

About that myth that seized Russian assets in Western banks were financing the Ukraine war against them? Apparently, it was a good investment for Russia:

https://t.me/greatreject/51465

https://youtu.be/sPT89tf-pMo Sorry for Bad Tube, Pat.
2394   socal2   2023 Jun 12, 9:17am  

Russian "barrier squad" killing fleeing Russian soldiers?

https://twitter.com/WotowiecMarek/status/1668232997672288257
2395   HeadSet   2023 Jun 12, 12:14pm  

Ceffer says

Why they don't just shoot their commanders and raise the white flag and run over to Russia, I don't know.

If that happened, you would never hear about it.
2397   FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden   2023 Jun 12, 6:15pm  

Ukraine is fucked, military industrial complex is profiting big. they spill blood, we profit. i’m looking at my own government and just think we are ran by satanic fucks who just hid their true colors in the past. used to be a morally right nation, maybe it was all an illusion.
2399   richwicks   2023 Jun 12, 7:29pm  

FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden says


used to be a morally right nation, maybe it was all an illusion.


This is what I think too.

We are taught our nation has morals, this is to disadvantage us. I can't count the number of times I was surprised to see corruption and criminality in the government go unpunished. It used to be, just to give the ILLUSION we were a moral nation. Not anymore.


2400   PeopleUnited   2023 Jun 12, 8:18pm  

Supposedly all these photos are from Hunters laptop. Who takes all these weird photos? And what kind of idiot stores embarrassing photos of themselves on their laptop?
2401   richwicks   2023 Jun 12, 8:54pm  

PeopleUnited says


Supposedly all these photos are from Hunters laptop. Who takes all these weird photos? And what kind of idiot stores embarrassing photos of themselves on their laptop?


A complete criminal that wants to record his exploits and knows he is above the law does.

When I say the government is a mafia, I'm not exaggerating in any way. How much more obvious can it get? Americans should have overthrown these assholes 20 years ago, but they just live in denial. "Oh, he has a drug problem. And a prostitute problem. Those prostitutes look awfully young. POOR POOR MAN! Aww, he's just a poor lost soul!!!!"

He's a thug.

He's a complete criminal, and unless he does something really outrageous, nothing will happen to him, and maybe nothing will happen to him even if he does something outrageous. We've been tolerating this shit for 40 years. Why don't celebrities caught high on cocaine ever get arrested?

The dual standard isn't new. People just deny it.

Drug test the fucking congress, I bet 90% would fail.
2402   Onvacation   2023 Jun 12, 10:06pm  

PeopleUnited says

Who takes all these weird photos? And what kind of idiot stores embarrassing photos of themselves on their laptop?

Crackheads and they ho's.

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