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socal2 says

What are Russia's strategic objectives in Ukraine these days?

Kill Nazis and stop the globalist who want Russia defanged and divided.

Onvacation says

Kill Nazis and stop the globalist who want Russia defanged and divided.

Russia is doing a pretty good job of defanging itself with their fuck up of an invasion for all the world to see.

Every part of Russia's military (including their Navy and Wagner) is considerably worse off today than 18 months ago.

There is no universe that Russia can argue that they have gained anything at this point other than pain, misery and death.

socal2 says

There is no universe that Russia can argue that they have gained anything at this point other than pain, misery and death.

They stopped the genocide of ethnic Russians in East Ukraine and exposed to the world the utter corruption of the Biden government.

Onvacation says

They stopped the genocide of ethnic Russians in East Ukraine and exposed to the world the utter corruption of the Biden government.

FFS - is this what all this Russian boosterism is about on the Right?

We didn't need Russia to get hundreds of thousands of people killed to expose Biden's corruption.

socal2 says

FFS - is this what all this Russian boosterism is about on the Right?

It isn't Russian boosterism. It's truth boosterism.

socal2 says

We didn't need Russia to get hundreds of thousands of people killed to expose Biden's corruption.

Agreed!

So why are we doing it?

Trollhole says

It isn't Russian boosterism. It's truth boosterism.

But you (you specifically) have been catastrophically wrong on all your Russian boosterism predictions here at Patnet.

Not just a little wrong. But MacGreggor level of embarrassing wrong with all your cocksure predictions that turn out 180 degrees opposite.

socal2 says

catastrophically wrong on all your Russian boosterism predictions here at Patnet.

No I haven't. You just think so because you won't expand your knowledge beyond the US propaganda sources you consume .

Oh, and by trying claiming so you just admitted you were wrong about your claims this is Russian boosterism. That is is truth boosterism. You just acknowledged that even though you flat deny said truth.

Thanks!

Can somebody please tell me what NAFO is/stands for? Thanks. Apologies if I missed any reponse.

socal2 says

Trollhole says

It isn't Russian boosterism. It's truth boosterism.

But you (you specifically) have been catastrophically wrong on all your Russian boosterism predictions here at Patnet.

Not just a little wrong. But MacGreggor level of embarrassing wrong with all your cocksure predictions that turn out 180 degrees opposite.

Give socal2 specific instances of where he is wrong. It's not enough to tell somebody they are wrong, they need to understand how they are wrong. This is the only way to change thinking, IF you want to do that.

This is to both of your benefit, provided that neither of you are propagandists, and there's many people that work for free being propagandists because they have been manipulated into not only believing they are correct, but also believe their viewpoint is just and moral.

I'm not a Christian, but the truth will actually set you free. You may not like freedom though. The real prison most of society is, is in their mind. MOST people believe absolute nonsense, and act upon it, and this is why I don't consider them people anymore. I've tried, for decades. If the state says 2+2=5, most people would call me crazy for saying it actually is 4. I mean, they'd have heard it on the news, wouldn't they?

I can't convince an MIT graduate that the US overthrew Ukraine in 2014, despite having BLATANT EVIDENCE the US did. He's not stupid, at all, he's just not human. After a point, you have to leave the herd behind. I can't save them, I can't even make them think.

AmericanKulak says

Can somebody please tell me what NAFO is/stands for? Thanks. Apologies if I missed any reponse.

https://nafo-ofan.org/

Onvacation says

AmericanKulak says

Can somebody please tell me what NAFO is/stands for? Thanks. Apologies if I missed any reponse.

https://nafo-ofan.org/

Example of (actual) usage:

iwog2 says

Ukey Bullshit Counter-offensive Paid By You And Me.

We were promised that they would be at the Sea of Azov MONTHS ago.

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/rewriting-history-friday-september

Elon Musk, new owner of the world’s largest media platform, is now looking at the border problem. Late last night, Elon echoed yesterday’s C&C headline:



Not to quibble or anything, and I know he’s just making a point, but we’re actually wiring Ukraine way over 100 times what we’re spending on the border crisis. Compare the billions we’ve sent Ukraine in the last two years with how little has been appropriated to handle the surge at the U.S.’s border.

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/disaster-concern-saturday-september

Speaking of Republican budgets, on Thursday night House Republicans voted 117-101 against sending another $300 million to help secure Ukraine’s borders. Per conference rules, Ukraine funding is now dead and cannot be voted on anymore this budget cycle.




Hardest hit by the failed vote were Robert L. Peters and a clutch of Ukrainian oligarchs. It might finally be time to take the ugly Ukrainian flag out of your social media bio pic and move on to the next virtue-signaling thing. Just think about it.

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/disaster-concern-saturday-september

Yesterday, in the wake of news that Ukraine is now seeking to extradite Ukrainian draft-dodgers from European countries to feed its Counteroffensive human meat grinder, Russia Today ran a story headlined, “Putin eases entry rules for Ukrainians.”

Russia’s new immigration decree, published yesterday, allows Ukrainian citizens to enter Russia without visas or even a valid passport, allowing for a number of new alternative forms of I.D. that displaced Ukrainian citizens can use. Kids can enter Russia with just a birth certificate.

It appears that a whole lot of Ukrainians aren’t so sure that Putin is the dictatorial monster that Joe Biden says he is. According to Russia’s TASS news service, over 5.2 million Ukrainians have relocated to Russia since January. The article allowed that independent analytics company Statista pegged the number lower, at a still-impressive 1.27 million, which is still more than Germany (1.09 million) or Poland (968,000).

It seems to be a one-way phenomenon. I couldn’t find any statistics about Russians moving to Ukraine, for some reason.

Last weekend, Secretary of State Antony Blinken and National Security Adviser Jake Sullivan privately told McConnell that it would be impossible to sustain Ukraine’s fight against Russia for the next month and a half without additional funding. Not including more aid in the CR would impose significant financial and symbolic harm on Ukraine’s government, they warned.

https://punchbowl.news/article/senate-republicans-overrule-mcconnell/

See? Proof that Starve The Beast really does work.

iwog2 says

Last weekend, Secretary of State Antony Blinken and National Security Adviser Jake Sullivan privately told McConnell that it would be impossible to sustain Ukraine’s fight against Russia for the next month and a half without additional funding. Not including more aid in the CR would impose significant financial and symbolic harm on Ukraine’s government, they warned.

https://punchbowl.news/article/senate-republicans-overrule-mcconnell/

See? Proof that Starve The Beast really does work.

It's likely the United States will "encourage" the EU to temporarily fund Ukraine, and make up for it in some other way.

This war won't end for at least another year, and I expect it to go on for several.

Formidable NATO strikes again.

What exactly did Hunter do for Burisma.

Onvacation says

What exactly did Hunter do for Burisma.

Middleman for the Ukies & The Big Guy

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/border-wars-wednesday-october-4-2023

Finally, in more bad news for the corrupt oligarchy of Ukraine and its flagging battle to protect its borders, which have been overrun by illegal Russian migrants, Russia Today ran a story yesterday headlined, “EU fails to unblock €5 billion aid to Ukraine.”

After Hungary vetoed the vote on the current aid package, E.U. ministers promised they will try again next year. Oh well. The Counteroffensive is almost over anyway.

https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/sitrep-10423-the-beginning-of-a-long

In the West, top officials are actively speaking on how Putin plans to “fatigue” the West into giving up on Ukraine, while Russian officials like Medvedev are openly admitting to this fact, and stating that the West will give up on Ukraine soon.

The West has never looked weaker, not only in general, but specifically vis a vis their support for Ukraine. All of their recent attempts at portraying a unified front look increasingly hollow and desperate. The facade is literally falling apart before our very eyes, showcased most poignantly in this Sky News interview with Ukrainian MP Lesia Vasylenko, which was taken down soon after because of how inconvenient her “slip ups” were in admitting that Russia is winning the war...

Nuland and Blinken thought they were going to weaken Russia by drawing it into an endless quagmire, but the result is looking like the opposite, with the US getting weaker because the war keeps dragging on.

https://twitter.com/ricwe123/status/1709186681474068897

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/benedict-a-thursday-october-5-2023

Politico ran a story yesterday that should really tell us everything we need to know headlined, “Ukraine is ‘freaking out’ as McCarthy chaos threatens US aid.” Ukraine’s corrupt oligarchs are worrying that the money train has reached its final destination.

Politico summarized the problem in one short paragraph:

"McCarthy’s historic ousting — no other U.S. House speaker has been deposed before — (came) after Congress voted through an emergency domestic funding package to avert a government shutdown. That deal, a stop-gap 45-day budget to keep the government running, featured no aid to Ukraine.
Now that McCarthy is out, all future U.S. funding for Kyiv is in limbo."

Ukraine’s corrupt oligarchs in were badly triggered by McCarthy’s removal. “We are freaking out. For us it is a disaster,” said Ivanna Klympush-Tsintsadze, a senior Ukrainian MP who chairs the committee on the country’s integration with the European Union.

The article stopped short of coming out and saying explicitly McCarthy is sitting in Ukraine’s breast pocket. Instead it framed the story as uncertainty over who McCarthy’s replacement will be. Ominously, Politico reported that “the Ukrainian government insists it has built constructive relationships with most potential replacements for the speaker’s post and is continuing to work with American lawmakers on the next package of aid.”

The bottom line is, the Ukrainians are upset that McCarthy is gone. Somebody start keeping track; that’s a “plus one” in the Gaetz column.

NATO members now shooting at each other:

https://www.caitlinjohnst.one/p/the-top-ten-dumbest-things-empire?publication_id=82124&post_id=137722918&isFreemail=true&r=6gdz

When you live under an empire that’s held together by lies, you’ll be asked to believe a lot of intensely stupid bullshit. Here are the top ten dumbest things the propagandists of the US-centralized empire try to get us to swallow.

1. That the US war machine has been surrounding its top two rivals China and Russia with war machinery as an act of defense, rather than an extremely provocative act of aggression.

2. That the war in Ukraine simultaneously (A) was completely unprovoked, and (B) just coincidentally happens to massively advance US strategic interests and therefore should be funded as much as possible.

3. That, okay, all those other wars were based on lies and resulted in disaster, but that couldn’t possibly be the case for this current war.

4. That your country’s foreign policy is determined by your official elected government, even though the foreign policy remains the same regardless of who is in office.

5. That it is only by pure coincidence that your nation’s population remains in a perpetual 50–50 deadlock which prevents anyone’s votes from changing the status quo, and the status quo just happens to be perpetually frozen along lines that hugely advantage the rich and powerful.

6. That the only reason anyone could possibly be critical of the most dangerous impulses of the world’s most powerful and destructive government is if they are a secret agent working for the enemies of that government.

7. That the western empire which spent the last two decades murdering Muslims in the Middle East suddenly cares very deeply about the Muslims in China.

8. That Putin invaded Ukraine solely because he is evil and hates freedom, and that the empire is pouring weapons into Ukraine because it loves Ukrainians and wants to protect their freedom and democracy.

9. That foreign propaganda and influence operations are significantly manipulating the way westerners think and vote, but the plutocrats who fully control all the most influential platforms in the western world are not.

10. That we need to be worrying about tyrannical enemies in Beijing and Moscow, instead of tyrannical enemies a lot closer to home.