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Sanctions Impact in Russia


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by AmericanKulak   $0.34 total tips   💰tip   follow   2022 Mar 4, 11:05pm  

Pay $1.81/gallon for gas
https://www.globalpetrolprices.com/Russia/gasoline_prices/?source=patrick.net

Gas in Russia is cheaper than Gas in Qatar or Bahrain or Saudi Arabia.

Unable to buy $30/lb luxury Italian Cheese, $30/bottle midrange French Wines, expensive German Audio Equipment... what will the Russians do with themselves?

Eat local cheese, drink local beer, and buy the same audio equipment from China that's on Amazon USA

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54   Bitcoin   2022 Mar 11, 9:25am  

gabbar says
I hope that the sanctions don't impact Russia too much. The world needs a counterbalance.


@gabbar
How would you feel about this plan: The US could utilize their best special forces to deploy a covert team into Moscow. Similar to what we did with other terrorist in previous years.
That special force team would take out Putin, some of the generals and maybe some oligarchs.

We would then plant US trained leaders in Moscow so that Moscow becomes controllable for the US. The way i think about this is Russia could become a special exporter of goods to the US at special conditions (reduced pricing) as a pay-back for the US efforts.
55   Patrick   2022 Mar 11, 1:07pm  

gabbar says
The world needs a counterbalance.



I agree. The world needs to be multi-polar, and it currently is not. It's GloboCap all the way down.

The reason for the furious and unremitting corporate propaganda against Russia is that they are asserting independence from GloboCap, which is based in NY and London. Not that Russia is a bastion of human rights, but they are at least true resistance to GloboCap.

The Borg demands that all be assimilated and obedient to capital. Every pocket of resistance to the McDonaldization of the world is under attack. "Every human must be repeatedly injected with an insidious toxin for the profits of Pfizer and Blackrock, and all who resist must be demonized and ostracized."
56   RWSGFY   2022 Mar 11, 1:35pm  

Two Weeks Into War, Russia’s Economy Has Rarely Fared Worse Than Now
Two weeks into Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, the war has inflicted a domestic toll that’s already comparable to the worst downturns of President Vladimir Putin’s more than two decades in power.
Tripped up by international sanctions, an economy that was on track to expand for a second year swung into reverse in a matter of days. In one of the first assessments of the damage already done, Bloomberg Economics’ nowcast suggests output has fallen about 2% -- a drop that rivals the full-year contraction during the pandemic in 2020. 
The decline means more than $30 billion has been erased from Russia’s annual gross domestic product, based on last year’s prices. Bloomberg Economics’ initial forecast is for Russia’s full-year GDP to slump about 9% in 2022. 
Read more: How Big Is War GDP Hit So Far? Nowcast Says 2%
Putin sought to reassure Russians on Friday, insisting that the Soviet Union grew and “achieved colossal successes” while under sanctions. 
But the depth of hardship at home may well test the nation’s resolve should the war in Ukraine turn into a prolonged conflict and result in additional sanctions. Russia is already headed for one of its biggest inflation spikes this century and the risk of shortages is prompting the government to impose restrictions on exports.
Bloomberg Economics’ gauge of activity suggests the collapse in the early days of the war resembles downturns during the Covid-19 shock and the global financial crisis. GDP shrank almost 8% in 2009.
Nowcasting the Impact of War, Sanctions on Russia’s Economy
The outlook for the year ahead is fluid and estimates vary widely among economists, ranging from the Institute of International Finance’s call for a “very deep recession” of 15% to a contraction of 7% seen by JPMorgan Chase & Co. and Goldman Sachs Group Inc.
A March survey of analysts by the Bank of Russia found the economy is expected to shrink 8% this year, compared with February’s forecast for a gain of 2.4%.
Worst to Come
The nowcast points to a large economic impact, based on the little information that’s available. But a much more severe downturn likely lies ahead, given the scope of the dislocation in Russia’s economy.
The measure may be understating the extent of the decline because stock prices are one of its four main components and the extended closure of local equity markets limits the amount of data. Bloomberg Economics factored in the performance of Russian securities before MSCI Inc. removed them from its indexes.
Other inputs used to measure activity are the ruble-dollar exchange rate, corporate bond yields and oil prices. 
Despite capital controls and the biggest interest-rate increase in almost two decades, the ruble has lost about 37% of its value in this year’s worst performance worldwide.
Russia is moving into a “deep recession,” with the ruble’s plunge driving up inflation and severely denting the purchasing power of the Russian population, International Monetary Fund Managing Director Kristalina Georgieva told reporters Thursday. 
-- Bloomberg
57   Misc   2022 Mar 11, 2:13pm  

GDP is a crap measure of the economy.

Example: Government spending adds to GDP.

Right now Russia has slightly less than 1 million people in the military. In WWII the Russian army totaled about 11 million. I would like this current conflict confined to the Ukraine. If Russia decides to boost its GDP by going to full wartime production, it would alleviate the hit to GDP, but would scare the ever living shit out of the West.
58   cisTits   2022 Mar 11, 2:43pm  

Misc says
Example: Government spending adds to GDP.


Spending $$$ on rape kits and broken windows and shops burned down by BLM is also good for GDP.
59   socal2   2022 Mar 11, 3:02pm  

Patrick says
I agree. The world needs to be multi-polar, and it currently is not. It's GloboCap all the way down.


I dunno - the world was much more violent when it was multi-polar. Violence is ticking up now (Ukraine) as America is perceived as being weak with Slow Joe Biden at the helm.

Everyone posting on this forum has enjoyed unprecedented peace and prosperity in our lives thanks to Pax-Americana. We are truly one of the luckiest generations in recorded history in terms of not having to suffer from militarized violence like all of our ancestors.






60   AmericanKulak   2022 Mar 11, 3:28pm  

socal2 says

Everyone posting on this forum has enjoyed unprecedented peace and prosperity in our lives thanks to Pax-Americana. We are truly one of the luckiest generations in recorded history in terms of not having to suffer from militarized violence like all of our ancestors.


And Debt, Outsourcing including the utter hollowing out of huge swaths of US Cities - esp. smaller cities like Scranton, Cinncinati, Binghampton, etc., and CRT/BLM bullshit. In 1990 it was unthinkable to have women in combat arms, and if you said Crossdressing perverts would be openly wearing makeup and sporting padded bras in the US Army in 30 years, would have laughed you out the room. Much less Drag Queens in Public Libraries with Kindergarten Kids.

$30T in debt, 120% of GDP, and that's just Federal - not including State or Private debt. Without a damn thing to show for it.
61   socal2   2022 Mar 11, 3:55pm  

AmericanKulak says
And Debt, Outsourcing including the utter hollowing out of huge swaths of US Cities - esp. smaller cities like Scranton, Cinncinati, Binghampton, etc., and CRT/BLM bullshit. In 1990 it was unthinkable to have women in combat arms, and if you said Crossdressing perverts would be openly wearing makeup and sporting padded bras in the US Army in 30 years, would have laughed you out the room. Much less Drag Queens in Public Libraries with Kindergarten Kids.

$30T in debt, 120% of GDP, and that's just Federal - not including State or Private debt. Without a damn thing to show for it.


How does cheering on Russia gobbling up their former Eastern European slave colonies and hoping or a Multi-polar world help this?

One can against the woke Corporate bullshit you cite above and also be against Russia invading their neighbors at the same time.
62   Misc   2022 Mar 11, 4:03pm  

Russia has no intentions of occupying the Ukraine.

It's total military is less than 1 million people. To occupy a country the size/population of Ukraine would take an occupation army of about 2 million people. Putin just ain't conscripting anyone, especially that number.

No this is just to make the Ukraine see his way on not being able to join NATO, making sure there are no more attacks from Ukrainians on the Donblass section, and formal recognition of Crimea belonging to Russia (with water rights).

If you think Putin is going to pay Russian money to rebuild what he is destroying in Ukraine, you are mistaken.

He has no intention of keeping it.
63   socal2   2022 Mar 11, 4:08pm  

Misc says
If you think Putin is going to pay Russian money to rebuild what he is destroying in Ukraine, you are mistaken.

He has no intention of keeping it


And he has made Russia a total pariah state and much poorer as a result.

Putin also showed the world the Russian military sucks and can't even manage logistics and supplies invading their next door neighbors.

So even if Putin pounds Ukrainian cities into submission with cowardly artillery and rocket strikes from afar - what has Russia really gained to offset the economic, social and political costs they will suffer over the years to come?
64   Misc   2022 Mar 11, 4:23pm  

He gains nothing except to have Europe united against him, which is why I didn't think he was going to invade in the first place.

The Russian military is getting better as time goes by. They are kinda new at this.

Putin saw what the CIA backed insurgents/terrorists did to his proxy's (Syria) cities. Maybe he is of the mind "do to me, I'll do the same to your proxies".

Still a bad move on his part, in my opinion.
65   socal2   2022 Mar 11, 4:27pm  

Misc says
The Russian military is getting better as time goes by. They are kinda new at this.


I thought the Russians got their recent experience (and overconfidence) fighting in Syria, Georgia, Crimea and Donbass?
66   Booger   2022 Mar 11, 4:36pm  

Misc says
Putin just ain't conscripting anyone,


Yeah, I'd like to see how well that would go over.
68   FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden   2022 Mar 12, 7:42pm  

Patrick says


Hilarious. I was thinking same thing… I wish they were gone here too. Especially fucking Starbucks. Impossible to find a mom and pop coffee shop because chains ran them all out of business here.
69   FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden   2022 Mar 12, 7:44pm  

Booger says
Misc says
Putin just ain't conscripting anyone,


Yeah, I'd like to see how well that would go over.


I got this one from you I think


70   RWSGFY   2022 Mar 14, 9:46am  

LONDON (Reuters) - The world’s top association of ship certifiers has withdrawn membership from the Russia Maritime Register of Shipping (RS) due to the impact of sanctions on Moscow after its invasion of Ukraine, in another blow to the country’s vital shipping sector.
Classification societies provide services such as checking that ships are seaworthy, and this certification cover is essential for securing insurance and entry into ports.
In recent days, Britain’s LR and Denmark’s DNV, have both announced they were stopping or winding down their business ties with Russia.
The International Association of Classification Societies (IACS), which had 12 members previously including LR and DNV and forms the top tier of ship certifiers globally, said late on Friday it was withdrawing RS’ membership with immediate effect, which it said was “no longer tenable”, citing UK sanctions on Russia where IACS is domiciled.
71   Eric Holder   2022 Mar 15, 12:27pm  

11.03.2022 - 07:13 UTC
An An-124-100 freighter belonging to Russian cargo specialist Volga-Dnepr Airlines (VI, Ulyanovsk Vostochny), carrying Covid-19 testing kits previously ordered from China by the Canadian government, has been seized at Toronto Pearson Airport amid international sanctions against Russia imposed after its invasion of Ukraine.

RA-82078 (msn 9773054559153) was detained on February 28 after the European Union and Canada - but before the United States - initiated airspace flight bans paralysing the movement of aircraft operated by Russian airlines carrying passengers or cargo.

The Antonov Design Bureau freighter, which had landed at Toronto the previous day via a refuelling stop at Anchorage Ted Stevens, is now stored there, the ch-aviation fleets advanced module shows, and it will remain there for the foreseeable future, according to Omar Alghabra, Canada’s minister of transport.

Volga-Dnepr Airlines, whose subsidiaries include AirBridgeCargo, Atran, and London Stansted-based CargoLogicAir, operates eleven An-124s, three of which are currently active, among its all-owned fleet of sixteen aircraft.

...

Distinctive for its nose-loading cargo bay, the An-124 “Ruslan” entered service in 1986 and fewer than 60 were ever made. Less than half are still in use. Antonov Design Bureau is a state-owned Ukrainian manufacturer. The Ruslan is the second-heaviest freighter in the world after the majestic An-225 “Mriya”. The world’s only An-225 was destroyed in a Russian airstrike on Gostomel airport in the first days of the invasion.


https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/news/113445-an-124-of-russias-volga-dnepr-seized-at-toronto-canada?source=patrick.net
72   Patrick   2022 Mar 15, 12:32pm  

All these sanctions will ultimately drive the creation of alternative systems, which is already happening as Russia starts to trade with China in their own currency, and prepares to sell oil to India.

The dollar itself is being undermined by sanctions, because the dollar gets its value from the need to trade oil in dollars. When the dollar is no longer necessary to buy oil, we will have to pay many more dollars to import anything, and US inflation will continue to rise.

People used to fear the US military, but now that the military has the cancer of wokeness, why would US soldiers fight at all? Worse, the government betrayed all US soldiers by demanding that they be injected with an unapproved experimental "vaccine" which was not even tested on animals.

There is no limit to Biden's ability to fuck things up.

The long-term US mistake was allowing corrupt CEOs to outsource US manufacturing to China for short term profits to themselves, at the cost of America's long-term prosperity. We can recover, but it will take decades.
73   Eric Holder   2022 Mar 15, 12:34pm  

Patrick says
All these sanctions will ultimately drive the creation of alternative systems, which is already happening as Russia starts to trade with China in their own currency, and prepares to sell oil to India.


Good. We need to decouple from these fucks. End offshoring, end outsourcing.
74   Patrick   2022 Mar 15, 12:35pm  

Eric Holder says
End offshoring, end outsourcing.





I agree with that, but it's going to be a bumpy ride downward for quite a while.
75   Eric Holder   2022 Mar 15, 12:36pm  

Patrick says
Eric Holder says
End offshoring, end outsourcing.





I agree with that, but it's going to be a bumpy ride downward for quite a while.


I don't mind a bumpy ride to a worthy destination. Beats a smooth slide to hell all day every day.
76   AmericanKulak   2022 Mar 15, 12:40pm  

China tells Biden to Fuck Off on sanctions. After all, they have all the shit on Biden, too, if he decides to grow balls. They also know that 80% of the supply Chain, including Japanese and Taiwanese and South Korean brands, lead back to Shenzhen. It'll be YEARS before it can be replaced, and the manufacturing experts are dead or retired in the USA.
https://www.newsweek.com/america-allies-tell-china-stop-supporting-russia-war-ukraine-sanctions-1688050?source=patrick.net

Miss Lindsay suddenly grows a pair on China, now that the Petrodollar and Western Globalist Banksters are at risk:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/lindsey-graham-offers-to-help-joe-biden-punish-china-if-beijing-bails-out-putin/ar-AAV5dfF?source=patrick.net
78   RWSGFY   2022 Mar 16, 7:47pm  

A Russian-owned superyacht can't leave a dock in Norway — not because of sanctions, but because no one in the port will sell it fuel. The Ragnar is owned by Russian oligarch Vladimir Strzhalkovsky, a former KGB agent who has long been linked to Russian President Vladimir Putin.
"We find the discrimination against us, extremely unjust," the yacht's captain, Robert Lankester, wrote in a message decrying the ship's predicament. He noted that Strzhalkovsky is not currently on a European or U.K. sanctions list. And, he said, the yacht's crew is not Russian.
Lankester's public notice was highlighted by Norwegian public broadcaster NRK, which reports that the Malta-registered ship is sitting at a quay in Narvik, a port city in northern Norway.
Strzhalkovsky is the former head of mining giant Norilsk Nickel. The 68-meter (223 feet) Ragnar was custom-built on the hull of a former service ship capable of pushing its way through ice. Part of its bespoke interior evokes a cozy British pub, according to a profile in Boat International. And while its amenities include "a BigBo amphibious ATV, heli-skiing equipment, four See-Doos, four ski scooters, six Seabobs, a multipurpose island and a giant slide," it currently can't find anyone who will fill its fuel tanks.
Let them row home, a local supplier told NRK.
79   richwicks   2022 Mar 16, 8:49pm  

AmericanKulak says
China tells Biden to Fuck Off on sanctions. After all, they have all the shit on Biden, too, if he decides to grow balls.


Considering how senile the kiddie fucker was a year and 1/2 ago - I doubt he's be able to find his balls if he had one end of string tied around them, and the other end tied to his finger.

Biden isn't part of this equation. I think it's quite obvious that being a willing meat puppet of the intelligence agencies and his perk is to be above the law, as long as he sticks to the script and I do think Biden is having some difficulty sticking to the script at this point.

I would feel badly for Biden, if his history in government wasn't one of being a completely corrupt criminal piece of shit. I kind of enjoy the old twat trying to bluff his way through a public speech. He's definitely the worst president in my lifetime, and I remember Nixon. I'd say beyond him - George W. Bush or Barack Obama was the worst presidents in my lifetime - which was worse? Flip a coin, both were totally garbage.

From top down: Trump/Reagan, Nixon, Carter, Ford, George W. Bush, Clinton, George W. Bush/Obama, Biden. That's in terms of the presidents that went from helping this nation (I think Nixon, Reagan, Trump and even Carter did) to those that harmed it. We haven't had a anything but dog shit for presidents starting in 1988 with the exception of Trump. But I was a child up until 1988, maybe I'm looking through rose colored glasses of my childish stupidity.
80   Patrick   2022 Mar 16, 11:25pm  

AmericanKulak says
They also know that 80% of the supply Chain, including Japanese and Taiwanese and South Korean brands, lead back to Shenzhen. It'll be YEARS before it can be replaced, and the manufacturing experts are dead or retired in the USA.


One thing that bothers me is that the US elite who outsourced our manufacturing to China got rich off of the impoverishment of the US and will probably never be punished for it.

Medieval China had the death penalty for exporting trade secrets like silk production.
81   RWSGFY   2022 Mar 18, 7:56am  

(Reuters) -Russia’s central bank kept its key interest rate at 20% on Friday following an emergency rate hike in late February and warned of an imminent spike in inflation and a looming economic contraction.
82   komputodo   2022 Mar 18, 8:02am  

AmericanKulak says
Unable to buy $30/lb luxury Italian Cheese, $30/bottle midrange French Wines, expensive German Audio Equipment... what will the Russians do with themselves?

Get it from a chinese container ship
83   komputodo   2022 Mar 18, 8:04am  

Eric Holder says
Good. Let's hope the whole covfefe usher the long-overdue decoupling from that Commie shithole.

What the hell does S.F. have to do with all this?
84   Eric Holder   2022 Mar 21, 11:27am  

https://thehill.com/policy/international/europe/599018-lithuania-ireland-push-eu-to-step-up-sanctions-on-russian-oil?source=patrick.net


The foreign ministers of Lithuania and Ireland on Monday pushed the European Union to deepen its sanctions on Russia’s oil supply.

The EU has already placed sanctions on Russia, including freezing the assets of its central bank, but it has not yet targeted Russia’s energy sector, Reuters reported.

“Looking at the extent of the destruction in Ukraine right now, it's very hard to make the case that we shouldn't be moving in on the energy sector, particularly oil and coal,” said Irish Foreign Minister Simon Coveney at the beginning of EU talks in Brussels, Belgium, this week.


The EU receives 40 percent of its gas supply from Russia, but some EU nations still believe sanctions must be imposed as a consequence of Russia’s recent invasion of Ukraine, with the siege of Mariupol ratcheting up the pressure.

EU foreign policy chief Josep Borrell called the strikes on the Ukrainian city “a massive war crime,” clarifying the bloc’s opposition to aggressive moves by Russia.

Lithuanian Foreign Minister Gabrielius Landsbergis said it was “unavoidable” that the EU discusses targeting Russia’s energy sector.

Kremlin: Russian oil embargo would squeeze Europe, not US
US-Saudi tensions complicate push for more oil
“And we can definitely talk about oil because it is the biggest revenue to Russia's budget,” Landsbergis added.

Countries such as Germany and Italy, which are more dependent on Russian gas than Baltic states like Lithuania, are taking a more cautious approach to sanctions on Russia’s energy sector, especially as Russian leadership has threatened to close a gas pipeline to Europe in response to these controversial moves.

Western countries including the U.S. and U.K. have already sanctioned Russian oil.
85   Eric Holder   2022 Mar 21, 11:28am  

komputodo says
Eric Holder says
Good. Let's hope the whole covfefe usher the long-overdue decoupling from that Commie shithole.

What the hell does S.F. have to do with all this?


The Russian consulate is gone but China's is still in SF.
86   🎂 FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut   2022 Mar 21, 12:51pm  

I got an interesting lesson from Russia here. They were prepared for sanctions, they sanction proofed their economy (I read about that in many publications) so these things aren't going to blindside them. A lesson for all of us here is build a parallel economy so big tech and big whatever faggots can't cancel you or do anything to you. If you don't need them and have alternatives, they have no power. McDonalds cancelled Russia, Russia was prepared, they just reopened them as some Russian brand and flipped logo to the side too to rub it in.

You need to accept payments? Dan Bongino offers payment processing that's not attached to big tech.

Parallel Economy is the way forward.
87   Eric Holder   2022 Mar 21, 12:54pm  

FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut says
I got an interesting lesson from Russia here. They were prepared for sanctions, they sanction proofed their economy


Have they really? How do you know?
89   🎂 FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut   2022 Mar 21, 2:56pm  

Eric Holder says
FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut says
I got an interesting lesson from Russia here. They were prepared for sanctions, they sanction proofed their economy


Have they really? How do you know?


I read it on the news, that any impact isn't going to affect them much, as they prepared and were expecting it. Basically, they aren't stupid.
90   RWSGFY   2022 Mar 21, 3:22pm  

FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut says
Eric Holder says
FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut says
I got an interesting lesson from Russia here. They were prepared for sanctions, they sanction proofed their economy


Have they really? How do you know?


I read it on the news, that any impact isn't going to affect them much, as they prepared and were expecting it. Basically, they aren't stupid.


Words are just that, words. In reality, even their fucking personal yahts are being arrested abroad, not to mention hundreds of billions in foreign reserves. Doesn't look not stupid at all. They obviously miscalculated.
91   RWSGFY   2022 Mar 21, 3:22pm  

GIBRALTAR (Reuters) - A luxurious super-yacht linked to the owner of Russia’s largest steel pipe maker, who is currently under British and European Union sanctions, docked in Gibraltar on Monday and was then detained by the authorities.
Western sanctions on Russian oligarchs over Moscow’s invasion of Ukraine have triggered an exodus of luxury yachts from Europe in recent weeks, with several heading towards the Maldives, which has no extradition treaty with the United States.
Reuters TV footage showed the “Axioma”, believed to be owned by Dmitrievich Pumpyansky, owner of steel group TMK, moored at Gibraltar, a British Overseas Territory on the southern tip of the Iberian peninsula, flying a Maltese flag.
Britain imposed sanctions on hundreds of Russian individuals and entities last week, enabling authorities to freeze their assets.
Refinitiv data show the 72-metre vessel is owned by a British Virgin Islands holding company called Pyrene investments. An article published by the International Consortium of Investigative Journalists as part of the Panama Papers leaks names Pumpyansky as a beneficiary of the holding.
93   clambo   2022 Mar 21, 4:33pm  

The price of left-handed screwdrivers luckily hasn’t changed.

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