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Nice strawman: nobody ever stated that Ukraine is an "altruistic utopia". Do these even exist IRL?

With all of the Ukrainian heroes, you might be asking yourself one question...
Why hasn't Ukraine already won the war?

Meep meep!

Tenpoundbass says

With all of the Ukrainian heroes, you might be asking yourself one question...
Why hasn't Ukraine already won the war?

Outgunned, outnumbered, duh.

Eric Holder says

Outgunned, outnumbered, duh.

You mean no guns, no numbers as they're asking for both. But beyond numbers, by your own admission, Ukraine is basically shooting down helicopters with slingshots and house plants(?). If the propaganda was even half true, the numbers wouldn't matter.

But fuck all that, let me hear you say Ukraine is corrupt... Won't do it? Refer to my title ^^

NuttBoxer says

But fuck all that, let me hear you say Ukraine is corrupt... Won't do it? Refer to my title

Corruption is any country's right. But calling Ukraine a democracy is the most laughable thing in all these events.

indc says

Corruption is any country's right. But calling Ukraine a democracy is the most laughable thing in all these events.

Prior to 2014, at least they had elections that didn't seem to have outside interference.

NuttBoxer says

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Aaand, just like that, MSM is back to being reputable on patnet.

Note to the wiser: Ukraine's wholesomeness (or lack thereof) is not the reason to be pissed at Russia.

mostly reader says

Aaand, just like that, MSM is back to being reputable on patnet.

Which one was MSM? If you want some meat, go to my other threads, this one is meant to drive home a point that doesn't require much analysis.

mostly reader says

Note to the wiser: Ukraine's wholesomeness (or lack thereof) is not the reason to be pissed at Russia.

I haven't read a single person anywhere in this forum who says Russian government is blameless or altruistic. But if I see as many posts and comments in that vein as I've seen on here praising Ukrainian Nazi's, I will definitely make a thread along these lines. And no, I don't accept ignorance of Ukrainian government atrocities as an excuse. Don't tell me anyone here would accept ignorance if someone praised Russian governments dictator.