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Eman
2022 Jul 8, 2:07pm
Eman
2022 Jul 8, 2:07pm
SunnyvaleCA says
Your assumption seems a little high. I get 285-290 Wh/mile on average with my Model S. It’s a bigger and heavier car. I would think the Model 3 would get better mileage than mine.
B.A.C.A.H. says
ad says
It costs the Tesla 3 owner about $3 to charge for every 100 miles or 33 miles per dollar.
At what price per kwhr?
Ha ha ha! Let me know where I can purchase electricity at 9¢ kWh. How much are states subsidizing electric car charging (which seems to me to be a luxury compared to keeping the lights on or cooking food).
As far as I can tell (my bill is a bit confusing here), I'm paying about 40¢ kWh for the mandatory hand-picked, organic, non-GMO, PETA-compliant electrons. Those hand-pickers are unionized and fair-trade, too! From what I can glean, a Tesla model 3 goes about 3 miles on a kWh, which means 40¢/3 = 13¢/mile. On the highway, maybe 2.5 miles per kWh, so 20¢/mile. At $6/gallon and 30 MPG, a gasoline-powered car is doing 20¢/mile; ...
Your assumption seems a little high. I get 285-290 Wh/mile on average with my Model S. It’s a bigger and heavier car. I would think the Model 3 would get better mileage than mine.
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Eman
2022 Jul 8, 2:26pm
Eman
2022 Jul 8, 2:26pm
B.A.C.A.H. says
“It is true that the utility company PG&E will allow us to sign up for a rate plan that allows us to charge at night "off peak" times for $0.25 per kwhr. However, to get this plan we must agree to pay a much higher price for other times of day, like over $0.54 per kwhr. PG&E has a portal where we can look up our hour-by-hour consumption. I've done this a few times. The "Off-peak EV rate charging plan" is mostly a wash at best. At worst, like if we don't use the car every day, it would shift more of our consumption into the super-high "peak rate" of $0.54.
So much (smug) B.S. here on The Left Coast.”
- This is not true based on my experience, and the data I showed above. If more charging happens during off-peak hours, it’ll bring down the average $/kWh even more.
Eman says
I found a flaw in what you said
What is the flaw?
“It is true that the utility company PG&E will allow us to sign up for a rate plan that allows us to charge at night "off peak" times for $0.25 per kwhr. However, to get this plan we must agree to pay a much higher price for other times of day, like over $0.54 per kwhr. PG&E has a portal where we can look up our hour-by-hour consumption. I've done this a few times. The "Off-peak EV rate charging plan" is mostly a wash at best. At worst, like if we don't use the car every day, it would shift more of our consumption into the super-high "peak rate" of $0.54.
So much (smug) B.S. here on The Left Coast.”
- This is not true based on my experience, and the data I showed above. If more charging happens during off-peak hours, it’ll bring down the average $/kWh even more.
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B.A.C.A.H.
2022 Jul 8, 2:42pm
B.A.C.A.H.
2022 Jul 8, 2:42pm
Eman says
As you said, based on your experience. That's your experience. I wasn't referring to your experience. I was referring to my observation and experience. Good for you,
I don't care if you believe me or not. I'm not going to waste my time lying on Patrick's blog. I was discussing my observations about me. Not your experience about you. No flaw in that unless you wanna call me a liar.
It would be a wash for me. Because I am a stupid podunk little guy local kid, with my luck and intuition the time I sign up for that plan will be the time when we have a heat wave and I don't drive the car at all, missing out on the cheap electricity at night and running the AC all day (yes we have it. Just don't need to use it. Fresh air is nicer for us on typical mild summer days than closing up the windows and running AC, especially at 40 cents per kwhr).
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And this kind of Bay Area Cool And Hip Smugness, is why they mostly hate us in Flyover Country.
“It is true that the utility company PG&E will allow us to sign up for a rate plan that allows us to charge at night "off peak" times for $0.25 per kwhr. However, to get this plan we must agree to pay a much higher price for other times of day, like over $0.54 per kwhr. PG&E has a portal where we can look up our hour-by-hour consumption. I've done this a few times. The "Off-peak EV rate charging plan" is mostly a wash at best. At worst, like if we don't use the car every day, it would shift more of our consumption into the super-high "peak rate" of $0.54.
- This is not true based on my experience, and the data I showed above. If more charging happens during off-peak hours, it’ll bring down the average $/kWh even more.
As you said, based on your experience. That's your experience. I wasn't referring to your experience. I was referring to my observation and experience. Good for you,
I don't care if you believe me or not. I'm not going to waste my time lying on Patrick's blog. I was discussing my observations about me. Not your experience about you. No flaw in that unless you wanna call me a liar.
It would be a wash for me. Because I am a stupid podunk little guy local kid, with my luck and intuition the time I sign up for that plan will be the time when we have a heat wave and I don't drive the car at all, missing out on the cheap electricity at night and running the AC all day (yes we have it. Just don't need to use it. Fresh air is nicer for us on typical mild summer days than closing up the windows and running AC, especially at 40 cents per kwhr).
Eman says
2 apartment buildings I own
Eman says
We run A/C whenever we want. We yolo.
Eman says
This doesn’t bother me.
Eman says
little guys get screwed.
Eman says
Our home is free and clear while our living expenses are around $15k/month.
Eman says
Our living expenses are paid for by others.
Eman says
The poor folks are the ones who take it up in the ass
And this kind of Bay Area Cool And Hip Smugness, is why they mostly hate us in Flyover Country.
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Eman
2022 Jul 8, 8:33pm
Eman
2022 Jul 8, 8:33pm
B.A.C.A.H. says
I shared data to show that we don’t experience the same thing. Why don’t you share with us your data so the readers can compare what we’re talking about.
Eman says
“It is true that the utility company PG&E will allow us to sign up for a rate plan that allows us to charge at night "off peak" times for $0.25 per kwhr. However, to get this plan we must agree to pay a much higher price for other times of day, like over $0.54 per kwhr. PG&E has a portal where we can look up our hour-by-hour consumption. I've done this a few times. The "Off-peak EV rate charging plan" is mostly a wash at best. At worst, like if we don't use the car every day, it would shift more of our consumption into the super-high "peak rate" of $0.54.
- This is not true based on my experience, and the data I showed above. If more charging happens during off-peak hours, it’ll bring down the average $/kWh even more.
As you said, based on your experience. That's your experience. I wasn't referring to your experience. I was ref...
I shared data to show that we don’t experience the same thing. Why don’t you share with us your data so the readers can compare what we’re talking about.
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Eman
2022 Jul 8, 8:48pm
Eman
2022 Jul 8, 8:48pm
B.A.C.A.H. says
Be careful who you vote for. There are consequences. I came from a poor country so I appreciate this country very much, and the opportunity it provides.
It’s so ironic to see folks in the Bay Area voted to ruin this place while struggling, whining and bitching about their lives. I shared the irony of what people voted for. We pay 5x the electricity compared to a flyover state. Nice going libtards.
Even an immigrant, who came to this country w/o speaking the language, could make it. What’s wrong with the native folks here who grew up speaking the language since they were born?
I own rentals in the East Bay too, and the irony there. The mindset of some of the folks there. Truly sad…..No wonder why people like Maxine Walters and Barbara Lee are in office forever while don’t contribute 💩 to the community.
Eman says
“It is true that the utility company PG&E will allow us to sign up for a rate plan that allows us to charge at night "off peak" times for $0.25 per kwhr. However, to get this plan we must agree to pay a much higher price for other times of day, like over $0.54 per kwhr. PG&E has a portal where we can look up our hour-by-hour consumption. I've done this a few times. The "Off-peak EV rate charging plan" is mostly a wash at best. At worst, like if we don't use the car every day, it would shift more of our consumption into the super-high "peak rate" of $0.54.
- This is not true based on my experience, and the data I showed above. If more charging happens during off-peak hours, it’ll bring down the average $/kWh even more.
As you said, based on your experience. That's your experience. I wasn't referring to your experience. I was ref...
Be careful who you vote for. There are consequences. I came from a poor country so I appreciate this country very much, and the opportunity it provides.
It’s so ironic to see folks in the Bay Area voted to ruin this place while struggling, whining and bitching about their lives. I shared the irony of what people voted for. We pay 5x the electricity compared to a flyover state. Nice going libtards.
Even an immigrant, who came to this country w/o speaking the language, could make it. What’s wrong with the native folks here who grew up speaking the language since they were born?
I own rentals in the East Bay too, and the irony there. The mindset of some of the folks there. Truly sad…..No wonder why people like Maxine Walters and Barbara Lee are in office forever while don’t contribute 💩 to the community.
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B.A.C.A.H.
2022 Jul 8, 9:56pm
B.A.C.A.H.
2022 Jul 8, 9:56pm
Eman says
Yes.
And you boasted how it's Silicon Valley Chump change for you to pay that much, paid for house and 15k per month etc.
That's the kind of in-your-face Smug Bay Area braggadocio that makes our cousins in FlyOver Country hate us. I only lived here, but I have many folks all over the US. I've spent a lot of time in their parts and fit right in when I'm among them. The Smug, Boastful talk is why they hate us. They hate us for other stuff too involving how we tolerate certain over-the-top liberal behaviors.
There's nothing wrong with a bit of humility.
Regarding my PG&E and EV scenario, your billing scheme would at best be a wash for me. More likely, because I am a stupid sh*t, I would not save money on it. I don't need to boast in our Flyover Friends' faces who follow these threads how awesome I am to afford our ridiculous rates by uploading images of my bill. You can call me a liar, or stupid podunk local kid. Whatever. Sticks and Stones.
Eman says
Yeah, I hear this hubris a lot in Silicon Valley.
Keep on keeping on bro, Sky's The Limit for you. Good for you.
We pay 5x the electricity compared to a flyover state.
Yes.
And you boasted how it's Silicon Valley Chump change for you to pay that much, paid for house and 15k per month etc.
That's the kind of in-your-face Smug Bay Area braggadocio that makes our cousins in FlyOver Country hate us. I only lived here, but I have many folks all over the US. I've spent a lot of time in their parts and fit right in when I'm among them. The Smug, Boastful talk is why they hate us. They hate us for other stuff too involving how we tolerate certain over-the-top liberal behaviors.
There's nothing wrong with a bit of humility.
Regarding my PG&E and EV scenario, your billing scheme would at best be a wash for me. More likely, because I am a stupid sh*t, I would not save money on it. I don't need to boast in our Flyover Friends' faces who follow these threads how awesome I am to afford our ridiculous rates by uploading images of my bill. You can call me a liar, or stupid podunk local kid. Whatever. Sticks and Stones.
Eman says
What’s wrong with the native folks here who grew up speaking the language since they were born?
Yeah, I hear this hubris a lot in Silicon Valley.
Keep on keeping on bro, Sky's The Limit for you. Good for you.
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AD
2022 Jul 9, 12:31am
AD
2022 Jul 9, 12:31am
SunnyvaleCA says
Its about 11 cents per kW-hour in Northwest Florida or Florida panhandle (aka: LA as in Lower Alabama) for electricity, boy.
I read it averages about 25 cents per kW-hour in Los Angeles, and I wonder if that is going to be problematic if climate trends lead to more air condition usage in Los Angeles.
About 35% to 65% of my home's electricity bill is for air conditioning from March through November in the Florida panhandle. My family wants to keep the thermostat down to 70 degrees Fahrenheit so the humidity averages about 50% during the summer.
https://www.fpl.com/content/dam/fplgp/us/en/northwest/pdf/rates/How%20to%20Read%20your%20Bill%20Northwest.pdf
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Ha ha ha! Let me know where I can purchase electricity at 9¢ kWh. How much are states subsidizing electric car charging (which seems to me to be a luxury compared to keeping the lights on or cooking food).
Its about 11 cents per kW-hour in Northwest Florida or Florida panhandle (aka: LA as in Lower Alabama) for electricity, boy.
I read it averages about 25 cents per kW-hour in Los Angeles, and I wonder if that is going to be problematic if climate trends lead to more air condition usage in Los Angeles.
About 35% to 65% of my home's electricity bill is for air conditioning from March through November in the Florida panhandle. My family wants to keep the thermostat down to 70 degrees Fahrenheit so the humidity averages about 50% during the summer.
https://www.fpl.com/content/dam/fplgp/us/en/northwest/pdf/rates/How%20to%20Read%20your%20Bill%20Northwest.pdf
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Patrick
2022 Jul 9, 11:26am
Patrick
2022 Jul 9, 11:26am
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/biden-sold-1-million-barrels-strategic-petroleum-reserve-chinese-firm-hunter-invested
How are Hunter and Joe not in jail for such flagrant and open corruption?
Biden Sold 1 Million Barrels From Strategic Petroleum Reserve To Chinese Firm Hunter Invested In
How are Hunter and Joe not in jail for such flagrant and open corruption?
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Eman
2022 Jul 9, 1:47pm
Eman
2022 Jul 9, 1:47pm
B.A.C.A.H. says
B.A.C.A.H. says
B.A.C.A.H. says
You think it’s in-your-face smug while I feel I offer a different perspective about life. Everyone can have the life they deserve/want if they’re willing to work for it. This is America. She offers opportunities for ALL. Maybe you’ve been a W2 employee your whole life so you share the perspective?
I chat with people from different walks of life on BiggerPockets. They don’t see the smugness in what I share and say. Everyone wants financial freedom to do whatever they want and provide the life for their beloved ones. Only the jealous ones see it as in-your-face smugness.
You say charging EV at home is a wash. I shared data that’s it’s not. Anyways, no reason to carry on if you’re not willing to share your data to back up your claim.
Cheers!
Eman says
We pay 5x the electricity compared to a flyover state.
Yes.
And you boasted how it's Silicon Valley Chump change for you to pay that much, paid for house and 15k per month etc.
That's the kind of in-your-face Smug Bay Area braggadocio that makes our cousins in FlyOver Country hate
B.A.C.A.H. says
Eman says
We pay 5x the electricity compared to a flyover state.
Yes.
And you boasted how it's Silicon Valley Chump change for you to pay that much, paid for house and 15k per month etc.
That's the kind of in-your-face Smug Bay Area braggadocio that makes our cousins in FlyOver Country hate us. I only lived here, but I have many folks all over the US. I've spent a lot of time in their parts and fit right in when I'm among them. The Smug, Boastful talk is why they hate us. They hate us for other stuff too involving how we tolerate certain over-the-top liberal behaviors.
There's nothing wrong with a bit of humility.
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B.A.C.A.H. says
Eman says
We pay 5x the electricity compared to a flyover state.
Yes.
And you boasted how it's Silicon Valley Chump change for you to pay that much, paid for house and 15k per month etc.
That's the kind of in-your-face Smug Bay Area braggadocio that makes our cousins in FlyOver Country hate us. I only lived here, but I have many folks all over the US. I've spent a lot of time in their parts and fit right in when I'm among them. The Smug, Boastful talk is why they hate us. They hate us for other stuff too involving how we tolerate certain over-the-top liberal behaviors.
There's nothing wrong with a bit of humility.
Regarding my PG&E and EV scenario, your billing scheme would at best be a wash for me. More likely, because I am a stupid sh*t, I would not save money on it. I don't need to boast in our Flyover Friends' faces who follow these threa...
You think it’s in-your-face smug while I feel I offer a different perspective about life. Everyone can have the life they deserve/want if they’re willing to work for it. This is America. She offers opportunities for ALL. Maybe you’ve been a W2 employee your whole life so you share the perspective?
I chat with people from different walks of life on BiggerPockets. They don’t see the smugness in what I share and say. Everyone wants financial freedom to do whatever they want and provide the life for their beloved ones. Only the jealous ones see it as in-your-face smugness.
You say charging EV at home is a wash. I shared data that’s it’s not. Anyways, no reason to carry on if you’re not willing to share your data to back up your claim.
Cheers!
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Eman
2022 Jul 9, 1:56pm
Eman
2022 Jul 9, 1:56pm
ad says
Gas prices in your state are lower compared to us so your savings is different than ours. 11 cents/kWh vs. $4.50/gallon in gas vs. ours 25 cents/kWh vs. $6.50/gallon in gas?
All in all, the experience has been great for us. We don’t see us going back to an ICE car anytime soon.
Driving EV’s offer another perspective about electricity usage and degradation. Once we’re ready to install solar, we’ll go overboard on the design to account for seasonality and degradation of the solar overtime. Maybe 125-140% of the actual usage capacity? Have 1-2 powerwall will likely help to maximize the savings and seasonality.
Electricity prices will likely continue to go up while we’ll fix our cost with solar. This is the last year for maximum rebates and credits in CA. Something for us to think about.
SunnyvaleCA says
Ha ha ha! Let me know where I can purchase electricity at 9¢ kWh. How much are states subsidizing electric car charging (which seems to me to be a luxury compared to keeping the lights on or cooking food).
Its about 11 cents per kW-hour in Northwest Florida or Florida panhandle (aka: LA as in Lower Alabama) for electricity, boy.
I read it averages about 25 cents per kW-hour in Los Angeles, and I wonder if that is going to be problematic if climate trends lead to more air condition usage in Los Angeles.
About 35% to 65% of my home's electricity bill is for air conditioning from March through November in the Florida panhandle. My family wants to keep the thermostat down to 70 degrees Fahrenheit so the humidity averages about 50% during the summer.
https://www.fpl.com/content/dam/fplgp/us/en/northwest/pdf/rates/How%20to%20...
Gas prices in your state are lower compared to us so your savings is different than ours. 11 cents/kWh vs. $4.50/gallon in gas vs. ours 25 cents/kWh vs. $6.50/gallon in gas?
All in all, the experience has been great for us. We don’t see us going back to an ICE car anytime soon.
Driving EV’s offer another perspective about electricity usage and degradation. Once we’re ready to install solar, we’ll go overboard on the design to account for seasonality and degradation of the solar overtime. Maybe 125-140% of the actual usage capacity? Have 1-2 powerwall will likely help to maximize the savings and seasonality.
Electricity prices will likely continue to go up while we’ll fix our cost with solar. This is the last year for maximum rebates and credits in CA. Something for us to think about.
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Eman
2022 Jul 9, 1:57pm
Eman
2022 Jul 9, 1:57pm
Patrick says
What a family of traitors.
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/biden-sold-1-million-barrels-strategic-petroleum-reserve-chinese-firm-hunter-invested
Biden Sold 1 Million Barrels From Strategic Petroleum Reserve To Chinese Firm Hunter Invested In
How are Hunter and Joe not in jail for such flagrant and open corruption?
What a family of traitors.
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WookieMan
2022 Jul 9, 2:14pm
WookieMan
2022 Jul 9, 2:14pm
Eman says
Not trying to be a dick but who cares? EV's are decades from being prominent. I drive a $65K Nissan Armada ($35k used). It's still cheaper and provides more utility for what I need and get to top off in 5 minutes if I need more range. Can tow 9k. EV's are a fad. They work for a tiny segment of the population. Which is totally fine. Time is money though, it's not about electric cost. It would cost the wife and I $100 of combined time to charge an EV on the road for 30 minutes. I'd come out to $10/gallon compared to ICE with my time.
It's a feel good thing and fun drive thing which I admit. It's not practical though. It's math. On the back end you have more money pouring out of your wallet with a full EV like a Tesla. And I like them. So as I said not trying to be a dick. EV's are not the future. Hybrids are. Even Tesla's infrastructure doesn't compete remotely with gas stations and they put chargers in. I don't have the time for 10-20 minutes of charging to get me 100 miles. I can get 400 on gas, talk on the phone with clients/people and get to my destination 80-90% faster.
Your assumption seems a little high. I get 285-290 Wh/mile on average with my Model S. It’s a bigger and heavier car. I would think the Model 3 would get better mileage than mine.
Not trying to be a dick but who cares? EV's are decades from being prominent. I drive a $65K Nissan Armada ($35k used). It's still cheaper and provides more utility for what I need and get to top off in 5 minutes if I need more range. Can tow 9k. EV's are a fad. They work for a tiny segment of the population. Which is totally fine. Time is money though, it's not about electric cost. It would cost the wife and I $100 of combined time to charge an EV on the road for 30 minutes. I'd come out to $10/gallon compared to ICE with my time.
It's a feel good thing and fun drive thing which I admit. It's not practical though. It's math. On the back end you have more money pouring out of your wallet with a full EV like a Tesla. And I like them. So as I said not trying to be a dick. EV's are not the future. Hybrids are. Even Tesla's infrastructure doesn't compete remotely with gas stations and they put chargers in. I don't have the time for 10-20 minutes of charging to get me 100 miles. I can get 400 on gas, talk on the phone with clients/people and get to my destination 80-90% faster.
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B.A.C.A.H.
2022 Jul 9, 2:32pm
B.A.C.A.H.
2022 Jul 9, 2:32pm
Eman says
Yes indeed, it's not for you. I don't question you at all. What is the point of lying on Patrick's page? So there is no flaw in my comment about me, just as there's no flaw in your comment about you.
I studied this to death when I got the plug-in vehicle. It won't pencil out for me.
Call me a liar, go ahead homie. Sticks and stones.
I will not boast and get in the face of others how the cost of living here is Chump Change. Maybe it is Chump Change, maybe that's why I stay here. But I don't boast about it.
The obnoxious braggadocio of some folks (who mostly moved here from somewhere else) is actually the worst part of sticking around. It's not the High Cost Of Living. Not the traffic. Not the pollution. Not the crazy Leftoids: it's the obnoxious Bay Area Cool And Hip Smugsters and snobs.
Yeah, yeah, I know: In your face, you stupid lazy podunk local kid.
You say charging EV at home is a wash. I shared data that’s it’s no
Yes indeed, it's not for you. I don't question you at all. What is the point of lying on Patrick's page? So there is no flaw in my comment about me, just as there's no flaw in your comment about you.
I studied this to death when I got the plug-in vehicle. It won't pencil out for me.
Call me a liar, go ahead homie. Sticks and stones.
I will not boast and get in the face of others how the cost of living here is Chump Change. Maybe it is Chump Change, maybe that's why I stay here. But I don't boast about it.
The obnoxious braggadocio of some folks (who mostly moved here from somewhere else) is actually the worst part of sticking around. It's not the High Cost Of Living. Not the traffic. Not the pollution. Not the crazy Leftoids: it's the obnoxious Bay Area Cool And Hip Smugsters and snobs.
Yeah, yeah, I know: In your face, you stupid lazy podunk local kid.
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Eric Holder
2022 Jul 21, 11:36am
Eric Holder
2022 Jul 21, 11:36am
Seem to be trending down over the last month:
PS. Cue usual idiots jumping in with "I saw $7.95 for Premium at that single gas station in the whole Death Valley last weekend".
PS. Cue usual idiots jumping in with "I saw $7.95 for Premium at that single gas station in the whole Death Valley last weekend".
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HeadSet
2022 Jul 24, 2:07pm
HeadSet
2022 Jul 24, 2:07pm
Gas is just below $4 here in Virginia also. Time for the Biden supporters to say: "Biden has made gas cheap again."
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RWSGFY
2022 Aug 1, 11:05pm
https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/ford-f150-lightning-electric-truck-towing-test/
RWSGFY
2022 Aug 1, 11:05pm
Before you hitch an Airstream to your electric truck and set out to circumnavigate the country, you need to understand this: With the largest available battery pack, a fully charged 2022 Ford F-150 Lightning electric truck has less energy onboard than a regular F-150 with four gallons of gas in its tank.
https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/ford-f150-lightning-electric-truck-towing-test/
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AD
2022 Aug 2, 1:22am
AD
2022 Aug 2, 1:22am
Total worldwide rig count is about 20% below February 2020 levels.
I wonder if rig count will intentionally remain below February 2020 levels for another couple of years to keep prices elevated above $3 a gallon for gasoline. Work from home and electric vehicles have had an affect on gasoline demand.
Gasoline is now about $3.65 a gallon here in the Florida panhandle.
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I wonder if rig count will intentionally remain below February 2020 levels for another couple of years to keep prices elevated above $3 a gallon for gasoline. Work from home and electric vehicles have had an affect on gasoline demand.
Gasoline is now about $3.65 a gallon here in the Florida panhandle.
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WookieMan
2022 Aug 2, 4:29am
WookieMan
2022 Aug 2, 4:29am
IL has dropped the MFT (motor fuel tax) until the end of the year. I don't know the exact amount, but at current prices that's about 30-40¢ less I believe. So per gallon prices are down, but the state isn't collecting the tax that was meant to keep our roads and bridges in good shape. I don't pay for gas, so I don't really pay attention outside of posts like this or news.
Fact is we all know who this helps the most. Big companies shipping shit in and out of IL. Likely paying little corporate taxes. Helps the poor and middle class I suppose, but that's not why they dumped it. Limousine liberal JB Prickzer was getting heat from the big corps. When the roads start going to shit it's going to be Jimmy Doe with a flat tire, broken axel, etc. Given trucks destroy the roads the most, he's given a tax break to big corps on the backs of the citizens. You can explain this to people, but they're just happy to pay less in gas. People are idiots as to what is going on.
Fact is we all know who this helps the most. Big companies shipping shit in and out of IL. Likely paying little corporate taxes. Helps the poor and middle class I suppose, but that's not why they dumped it. Limousine liberal JB Prickzer was getting heat from the big corps. When the roads start going to shit it's going to be Jimmy Doe with a flat tire, broken axel, etc. Given trucks destroy the roads the most, he's given a tax break to big corps on the backs of the citizens. You can explain this to people, but they're just happy to pay less in gas. People are idiots as to what is going on.
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Eric Holder
2022 Aug 2, 10:20am
Eric Holder
2022 Aug 2, 10:20am
WookieMan says
It's not like they were really using all (or any) of it for THAT purpose....
I remember SF mayor saying in 2006(?) that "we don't plan any road repairs in the city for this year because we have lots of resident with special needs and these needs will havre to be met first".
So per gallon prices are down, but the state isn't collecting the tax that was meant to keep our roads and bridges in good shape.
It's not like they were really using all (or any) of it for THAT purpose....
I remember SF mayor saying in 2006(?) that "we don't plan any road repairs in the city for this year because we have lots of resident with special needs and these needs will havre to be met first".
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clambo
2022 Aug 21, 7:56am
August 20 Palm Beach County $3.44.
I recall it was $2.24 in December 2020.
CNN is so full of shit, I can’t watch or read anything from them.
I recall it was $2.24 in December 2020.
CNN is so full of shit, I can’t watch or read anything from them.
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AD
2022 Oct 3, 10:40pm
AD
2022 Oct 3, 10:40pm
This is the last month of Biden's order to tap the strategic oil reserves which are down to 1984 levels.
Oil rig count is still about 15% below early 2020 levels. I don't see gas prices staying low unless the economy takes a major dive after the midterm election.
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/10/03/opec-oil-prices-could-soon-return-to-100-a-barrel-analysts-say.htm
But then you have this forecast which keep oil demand down.
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/be-prepared-for-trucking-winter-analysts-warn-11664559728
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/ocean-freight-orders-are-signaling-a-big-drop-in-consumer-demand/ar-AA12xGqe
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Oil rig count is still about 15% below early 2020 levels. I don't see gas prices staying low unless the economy takes a major dive after the midterm election.
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/10/03/opec-oil-prices-could-soon-return-to-100-a-barrel-analysts-say.htm
But then you have this forecast which keep oil demand down.
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/be-prepared-for-trucking-winter-analysts-warn-11664559728
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/ocean-freight-orders-are-signaling-a-big-drop-in-consumer-demand/ar-AA12xGqe
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ForcedTQ
2022 Oct 3, 11:06pm
It’s getting to the point where the JouleUnlimited biological crude/diesel from algae becomes economically viable, I would think. If CA fuel holds above $6/gal line it seems to be now, this has got to be potentially a solution. I wonder why the venture with Audi out in the New Mexico desert pilot project shut down…..
This fuel should meet the CA RFS and CARBOB requirements based on the information they have divulged.
This fuel should meet the CA RFS and CARBOB requirements based on the information they have divulged.
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