patrick.net

richwicks says

I am not one of those people who fall into that category of blaming a single group. Well, it might be a single group, but it's not a single ethnic group. The single group which is my best guess are sociopaths.

I know you aren't. You've been reasonable on these grounds, I think the latest example not one or two weeks ago.

AmericanKulak says

Or that 33% of the NKVD was Latvian who were only 2% of the Soviet Union's population.

Just to mitigate Latvian Communist smears, I would say this is in part because the entire elite regiment or battalion of Latvian Rifles went over to the USSR and were folded into the NKVD. Since they mostly were trained to speak Latvian, Polish, Russian, and German, they were particularly useful as both well trained and able to speak with many groups.

AmericanKulak says

richwicks says

I am not one of those people who fall into that category of blaming a single group. Well, it might be a single group, but it's not a single ethnic group. The single group which is my best guess are sociopaths.

I know you aren't. You've been reasonable on these grounds, I think the latest example not one or two weeks ago.

To further explain my position, so its best understood, I do find it troubling that Jewish people in power often seem to be exempt from oversight, because they will readily use the call of "Antisemitism" to shield themselves. Israel does this frequently. I suspect that Bernie Madoff avoided scrutiny for years because he was Jewish. They DO seem to close ranks.

I had a Jewish friend in college that would PROPERLY condemn the actions in the first Iraq War (Desert Storm) and the lies that led to that, but exempted everything Israel did and does - even things like the Lavon Affair or the USS Liberty. My first taste of deep cognitive dissonance within a person. He's generally a moral person, but not when it comes to Israel. Maybe he's just differently brainwashed than I am.

Remember, the US went to war with Vietnam for, what, 8 years over the fake Gulf of Tonkin Incidence, but they didn't do shit with the USS Liberty. Our government practices no consistent set of moral standards and it's very evident with Israel. Right now what is going on between Russia and Ukraine is being called "genocide", but what is being done to the Palestinians, that's a real genocide, and one of the slowest, and most deliberate ones in all of human history.

richwicks says

my grandparents saw when they were young adults in a theater.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyY_IbI8dLU&source=patrick.net

Every race says "Poor me, but when I did it, it was okay", but I do agree that anti-semitism gets thrown around when it's bullshit. Just like Blacks squirm and try to claim African Slavery wasn't the same as Southern Slavery. It was actually worse, since the Africans practiced human sacrifice prior to Christianity/Islam.

richwicks says

I suspect that Bernie Madoff avoided scrutiny for years because he was Jewish.

He scammed more Jews than anything, leveraging his honorary chairmanships in Jewish Orgs (in the hopes of him donating more, but again, every group does that) to network more cash into his BS funds. His general approach to regulators and investigators was "Do you know who I am? I am the Chairman of the Stock Exchange! You liitle pup!" I remember reading about him browbeating those merely coming with routine inquiries.

One thing that pissed me off was the unjustified moaning over the Passion of the Christ.

By the way, and off-topic, notice the traditional display of Satan in that film as androgynous.

But I've never seen more bullshit Aunty Semite Faux Claims in the past few years than my whole life.

AmericanKulak says

richwicks says

I suspect that Bernie Madoff avoided scrutiny for years because he was Jewish.

He scammed more Jews than anything,

That is SAID ("that" is said.. - I know) is what caused him to get into trouble. I consider everything but I draw no conclusions.

AmericanKulak says

One thing that pissed me off was the unjustified moaning over the Passion of the Christ.

I never saw the whole film. It just looked like a bunch of torture porn in the parts I have been exposed to. I don't think I'd enjoy that. I've never seen The Last Temptation of Christ either - heard that was just about a temptation of Christ before his execution - it wasn't sacrilegious in any way, just that it was a piece of fiction of what Christ was TEMPTED to do and didn't do. I'd have to see the film, but it actually seems to be a positive message in terms of Christianity.

AmericanKulak says

By the way, and off-topic, notice the traditional display of Satan in that film as androgynous.

I didn't know there was anything supernatural even depicted in it.

AmericanKulak says

But I've never seen more bullshit Aunty Semite Faux Claims in the past few years than my whole life.

I think there's a constant push to make people paranoid of one another.

To go off on a tangent, I have listened to David Duke and he is a historian on Eastern Europe. His hypothesis is that Ukraine is basically controlled by a Jewish mafia that doesn't give a damned about the Ukrainians and in fact despises them as a result of what happened to Jews there 100 years ago.

My family is part Polish, and my cousin studied in Warsaw Poland while it was still under defacto Soviet control. He told me that when he talked to the Poles there that there was a saying that survived before WWII - supposedly Jewish people would say things like "You own the street, we own everything else".

I was dragged to a Holocaust Museum in Washington DC a few years ago. In it wooden sidewalks and cobblestone streets were recreated, and I was told that Jews were not allowed to walk on the street, but were confined to the sidewalks. One thing I noticed, is walking on the cobblestone was very hard on your ankles because it is entirely uneven, and I was even worried about my mother injuring her ankle, and the sidewalks were a relief to get on. It made me wonder if the sidewalks were exclusively for Jews, and the cobblestone for everybody else.

There's a lot of stuff which I suspect isn't true with WWII but I don't really care too much about it. Propaganda from WWII survived to the present day no doubt.

My real viewpoint is that if there is a "Jewish conspiracy" well, if people are dumb enough to fall for it, maybe they are the super-race. Too bad for us. It's not like people have much sympathy for cows and pigs. Evolutionary algorithms are entirely ruthless in fitting a function to a problem. Well, I think we're part of that process. It just is what it is, and there's many attempts to fix various problems. My irritation is that a lot of problems are diversions - that fitting yourself to that "solution" is counterproductive to your survival. We're not on a level playing field - in an AI simulation, it's a level playing field, the different "AIs" in the simulation don't misdirect the others, they simply out compete.

Hmm, maybe Public Schooling is actually an attack on the middle class by the oligarchy... Certainly I think mass media is.

My beef with the Jewish Conspiracy is the lockstep telepathic instant collusion that is required.

Spend an hour with 2 Jews and one will get 3 strong opinions. Something they have in common with the Irish as well as taking the opposite side for shits and giggles ("arguing with an Irishman").

AmericanKulak says

My beef with the Jewish Conspiracy is the lockstep telepathic instant collusion that is required.

It doesn't require telepathic collusion. It requires shared goals at the expense of all other groups. For example, a Jew going before a Jewish judge might get favorable treatment. It would just require "an understanding".

AGAIN, I'm not saying this goes on, I'm saying this is how it would be done. White people engaged in this in parts of the South. If a group of white people lynched a black man, even if they were found guilty, the Judge would give them a slap on the wrist. They don't even have to be fully conscious of it, it could be subconscious.

This is how "the white conspiracy" happened. White people in certain areas would "protect their own". You can see this happen among many groups, but the main group is the criminal group today. That trumps race.

AmericanKulak says

Spend an hour with 2 Jews and one will get 3 strong opinions.

Well, that would probably be true with me, since if I spent an hour with 2 Jews, there would be 3 of us. I find often people will argue just to argue in the abstract, and that annoys me. They won't argue their position but an ideology. People that argue ideologies are people that haven't really explored the ideology to it's logical contradictions. My friend in college would often do that, where I would realize I had not fully thought out my position. I think everybody can easily get enamored with ideologies when they are young.

AmericanKulak says

Something they have in common with the Irish as well as taking the opposite side for shits and giggles ("arguing with an Irishman").

Truth be told, I'm Irish, Welch, English, German, and Polish - I've probably have some Jewish ancestry in me as well. It's not important for me to know.

Honestly, I just want to figure shit out before I'm dead, I don't have any vendettas.

I have a Jewish relative who likes to point out that you would not be able get a job with the city of Chicago for a long time unless you were Irish. The Irish had the political organization and numbers in big cities to favor their own.

Yes, Jews tended and still do likely tend to favor other Jews for the same reason. Having a common origin makes you more likely to feel affinity with someone.

But the history of America has been a gradual breakdown of strict ethnic divisions, at least among white people.

Patrick says

But the history of America has been a gradual breakdown of strict ethnic divisions, at least among white people.

Some people complain it's ONLY among white people.

If white people do this today, it's "racism". You're in Silly Con Valley like me - have YOU ever seen racism? I have. I've seen it among Chinese and Indians but not among whites. I know a group within a company that is headed by an Indian that ONLY hires Indians, not sure if he limits it to a particular caste. One engineer sued at Cisco for discrimination because his boss was only promoting people within HIS caste.

To me, this is 3rd world bullshit and is fodder for "this group of people, they're backward" and I would argue in those instances - they ARE backward.

richwicks says

It doesn't require telepathic collusion. It requires shared goals at the expense of all other groups. For example, a Jew going before a Jewish judge might get favorable treatment. It would just require "an understanding".

Well, the Jewish Judge (and Jewish Prosecutor) gave the Rosenbergs the death penalty and the key evidence against them was sniffed out by McCarthy's "Lapdog", a gay lawyer and later Trump patron named Roy Cohn. Ethnic connections, sure, but they can only be pushed so far and interests don't always align.

A group famous for tax farming is never going to be liked, even if the vast majority were impoverished rag dealers, peddlers, or smelly chicken pluckers. Nobody likes the guy who fronted the tax money and has to make it up and then some, with half a dozen Kokhol Cossacks in tow with quarterstaffs to make sure every window and cow gets counted.

Then there's the one-worlder Esperanto speaker ("To Soar") who inventoried Jewish property during WW2 and seeks to impose Marcuse on us all.

Going back to the Roy Cohn, there is definitely a radical NY wealth ring, heavily but not wholly Jewish, that LOATHES Cohn for his McCarthy Service and his later extended circle and support of Trump, Guiliani, etc. There's a long ass, convoluted story of the back and forth between a segment of the NY Radical Elite and Cohn/Trump/Guiliani that should be a book. I suspect this group is the one that dethroned the Cuomos and installed DeBlasio, Hochul, and Adams, I have a theory on the Reprobate (in the original theological sense, backsliders) WASP/Radical Jew Technocrat Oligarch alliance that explains the SDS, Weathermen, Anti-50s propaganda, etc. etc. etc. that needs fleshing out.

The Cuomo thing is another tale where we'll find a bunch of shit out about much later. You can't remove THE political family in New York with massive patronage tentacles for over half a century without a serious and well funded and powerful force. What did the Cuomos do or not do?

richwicks says

Truth be told, I'm Irish, Welch, English, German, and Polish - I've probably have some Jewish ancestry in me as well. It's not important for me to know.

I'm part Ashkenazi, part Sephardic, since about 1600s in the USA (long before the early 20th East European Jew wave), my other half is Norwegian, Irish, and Prussian/Huguenot exiles.

But all that aside, I'm 100% American, have always loved the Founding Fathers and the Scots-English Enlightenment, and committed to those principles. I'm thankful AF for my experiences and education as a kid that made me appreciate that rather than turning into a hater of self-and-society. Absolute Monarchists and Communists can equally FOAD.

AmericanKulak says

Well, the Jewish Judge gave the Rosenbergs the death penalty and the key evidence against them was sniffed out by McCarthy's "Lapdog", a gay lawyer and later Trump patron named Roy Cohn. Ethnic connections, sure, but they can only be pushed so far and interests don't always align.

I'll give you that, although I didn't know that particular history for the Rosenbergs. Junteenth is the day of their execution. I did know something (rumors..) about Roy Cohn.

AmericanKulak says

I'm part Ashkenazi, part Sephardic, since about 1600s in the USA (long before the early 20th East European Jew wave), my other half is Norwegian, Irish, and Prussian/Huguenot exiles.

original link


(((that's a joke))) <- so is that.

AmericanKulak says

But all that aside, I'm 100% American, have always loved the Founding Fathers and the Scots-English Enlightenment, and committed to those principles. I'm thankful AF for my experiences and education as a kid that made me appreciate that rather than turning into a hater of self-and-society. Absolute Monarchists and Communists can equally FOAD.

I think really it's culture that binds people far beyond race, but religion is part of culture as well. I really hate this idea that the US is "multi-cultural" - it's just to divide us. I can see why a single religion was and sometimes still is imposed on people.

I would argue that the current incarnation of "the left" are extremely racist and work like bastards to create conflict and problems between people.

I can appreciate Malcolm X's (one time) belief that maybe self segregation would be preferable, so long as each group controlled the policies within their community, although I can also appreciate THIS could lead to inevitable conflict. It's just a mess we started to divided up as races like 100,000 years ago.

Vivek Ramaswamy
@VivekGRamaswamy
Apr 23
Disney’s CEO took a toxic political positions that hurt Disney’s business.

Normal capitalism: his top 3 shareholders would tell him to knock it off.

Capitalism today: BlackRock, State Street, and Vanguard tell him to keep at it in the name of “ESG” & “DEI.”

That’s the problem.

AmericanKulak says

But all that aside, I'm 100% American

I feel the same way. I'm happy to learn about my ancestry and proud of it, but only America is my country.

richwicks says

I think really it's culture that binds people far beyond race, but religion is part of culture as well. I really hate this idea that the US is "multi-cultural" - it's just to divide us. I can see why a single religion was and sometimes still is imposed on people.

Speaking of multi-cultural, I see a lot of Alt Right and Bitchuters waxing poetic about despotism, paternal autocracy, or outright absolute Monarchism, as well as blasting Anglo-Saxon/British history and mythos. Torba Fanboi types.

The Founding Fathers considered themselves to be mere Englishmen who were simply taking their natural rights back from a Crown and Parliament that violated it, and of course the US and the Town Hall system of Representative Government bounded by God-Given Natural Rights was initiated by the most radical Protestant Reformationists in existence.

The idea that we should have a Monarch that rules by Fiat backed by a State Inerrant Church and other ultra Traditional Central/Eastern European type ideas is almost exactly the opposite of Americanism. Only Communism could be further away, and really, when America was founded, the opponent was the Absolute Monarchy with an Enforced State Religion. There's a reason the Colonialists were called Separatists and Dissenters, be they Baptist or Reformed or Congregationalist or Presbyterian, and their biggest beef was the mandatory tithe, and they would be even more damned if they had to tithe to Rome instead of not-Protestant-enough Anglicanism to pay to (hence "Puritan" - the Anglican church was not Reformed enough).

"Better a 100 churches with their own error, than one universal church with 100 errors" - Congregationalist 17th Century Saying. And the thinking of the Founders when it came to the 1st Amendment given their disappointing experience with Anglicanism and their absolute terror over Saint Barts day and Continental Absolute Monarchy.

The Church also being a stand-in for lifestyle/philosophical ideas.

But I see Fake MAGA making the case for 18th Century Absolute Monarchies, makes me barf.

An Official Kultur is being imposed from the top down inorganically and dissent from it is being punished, it is a different flavor but the same basic idea as having a One State Church. Just in this case it's about Trannies, Masks, PUFA impossible burgers, and other Current Things rather than Grace Vs. Works and suchlike.

Also, I'm POSITIVE that the Agencies are funding/supporting all kinds of whacky shit to further erode trust and belief in the ability to repair Americanism (but this time from the Right, to radicalize them, undermine America, and to justify budgets against "right wing extremism". Many of them are clearly from boiler rooms/chat rooms and are getting paid and foreigners: They can give you a complete rundown of some Eastern European area going back 5 centuries, know many minor actors (on the world stage) from Poland and Ukraine, but have no clue about US History. I suspect many are within a few hundred miles of the Vistula

As a stand in for a universal state Church: "TheScience(tm) is never wrong, though it might change from time to time." This is why even in this forum, we have people who try to defend Masking having a Public Health impact when we have abundant Evidence it was ineffectual.

That's why we need a New Church commission, stat, if the Republicans take back the House.

Another thing to consider is the utter absence of any cleric characters in Movies and TV and other media.

When pondering that at least 1/3 of Americans are Church going and/or Strong believers and more than half are Christians of some kind.

Such characters were routine until the 1970s.

Yahoo censored my "F Disney" comment in a Disney related article. Yes I wrote F and not Fuck.

https://notthebee.com/article/disney-refuses-to-cut-12-seconds-of-lgbtq-content-in-doctor-strange-in-the-multiverse-of-madness-and-gets-banned-in-the-middle-east?source=patrick.net

https://www.theblaze.com/news/disney-employees-speak-out-against-woke-activism?source=patrick.net

Disney employees speak out: Woke mob has 'hijacked' the company — conservatives, Christians no longer welcome

https://notthebee.com/article/the-disney-executive-who-led-the-company-in-its-disastrous-opposition-to-floridas-education-bill-has-left-his-position-after-only-3-months-on-the-job-?source=patrick.net

https://www.ntd.com/family-visiting-disney-world-says-apple-airtag-was-used-to-track-them_773883.html?source=patrick.net

Maybe just criminals, or who knows, maybe Disney did it somehow.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/hawley-to-introduce-legislation-targeting-disney-copyright-protections?source=patrick.net

Hawley to introduce legislation targeting Disney copyright protections


“For years, @Disney has gotten special copyright protections from the federal government — allowing them to charge consumers more. Woke corporations shouldn’t get sweetheart deals. I’ll introduce legislation this week to end their special protections — enough is enough,” the senator wrote.

The Washington Examiner has contacted Hawley’s office for more details about the plan.

The copyright on Disney’s classic Steamboat Willie Mickey Mouse, the first iteration of the character, is set to expire at the end of 2023, and Rep. Jim Banks (R-IN) recently wrote to Disney CEO Bob Chapek telling him that he and some other GOP lawmakers oppose “further extensions applicable” to the company’s copyrights. Banks argued those should become public domain.

Republicans in both Florida and Washington, D.C., have been upset about Disney’s public lobbying against the Florida legislation, which is called the Parental Rights in Education bill but has been branded the “Don't Say Gay” bill by critics. The legislation bans classroom instruction of sexual orientation and gender identity through the third grade.

Disney has successfully lobbied for copyright extensions in the past. Disney pushed for the Copyright Act of 1976 and then worked to get the Copyright Term Extension Act of 1998 signed into law. Detractors of the latter bill had branded it the “Mickey Mouse Protection Act.”

This is true. Our copyright laws are flagrantly corrupted by endless extensions to protect Disney profits.

Patrick says

https://notthebee.com/article/the-disney-executive-who-led-the-company-in-its-disastrous-opposition-to-floridas-education-bill-has-left-his-position-after-only-3-months-on-the-job-?source=patrick.net

and had to be the former Bush administration swamp faggot. Fuck that guy!!!

It's not just Trannies and LGBTQ+P:

The core of Disney’s racial program is a series of training modules on “antiracism.” In one module, called “Allyship for Race Consciousness,” the company tells employees that they must “take ownership of educating [themselves] about structural anti-Black racism” and that they should “not rely on [their] Black colleagues to educate [them],” because it is “emotionally taxing.” The United States, the document claims, has a “long history of systemic racism and transphobia” and white employees, in particular, must “work through feelings of guilt, shame, and defensiveness to understand what is beneath them and what needs to be healed.” Disney recommends that employees atone by “challeng[ing] colorblind ideologies and rhetoric” such as “All Lives Matter” and “I don’t see color”; they must “listen with empathy [to] Black colleagues” and must “not question or debate Black colleagues’ lived experience.”

In another module, called “What Can I Do About Racism?,” Disney tells employees that they should reject “equality,” with a focus on “equal treatment and access to opportunities,” and instead strive for “equity,” with a focus on “the equality of outcome.” The training also includes a series of lessons on “implicit biases,” “microaggressions,” and “becoming an antiracist.” The company tells employees that they must “reflect” on America’s “racist infrastructure” and “think carefully about whether or not your wealth, income, treatment by the criminal justice system, employment, access to housing, health care, political power, and education might be different if you were of a different race.”

https://christopherrufo.com/the-wokest-place-on-earth/?source=patrick.net

Booger says

those faggot lovers declared war on parents, had this coming

DooDahMan says

Keep kids of away from Church too !

CHILD SEXUAL ABUSE & STUDENT MINISTRY: High Risk and Low Barriers

It’s easy to understand why offenders seek access to children where the barriers of protection are lowest. Sadly, this is often the Church, which commonly lacks any real understanding of sexual abuse risk. Further, the Church provides an environment offering forgiveness and welcome, saying “Come as you are” and “No perfect people here,” unintentionally creating easy access to children for offenders.

https://churchexecutive.com/archives/stop-sexual-abuse-12

Now who would have imagined such a thing amongst these fine upstanding Sunday Morning Christians when there is Disney for a target

thats fake news, perpetuated by gays who hate church.

thats fake news, perpetuated by gays who hate church.

Yep. Same people who want their Globalist / Wokist NGOs tax free but tax Churches.

I put all the DooDah day on ignore, it's just left wing drivel. Public School teachers molest and abuse at a higher rate than Clerics, not including the NASB/NEA Sexual Harassment.

https://notthebee.com/article/after-brutal-drop-in-support-over-the-last-year-disney-comes-back-for-more-with-new-line-of-rainbow-groomer-clothes-for-kids

https://babylonbee.com/news/george-lucas-takes-out-billboard-reading-miss-me-yet-next-to-disney-star-wars-billboards

DooDahMan says

FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden says

thats fake news, perpetuated by gays who hate church.

Everything is "fake news" that shines a light on the not so good things swept under the rug in religious institutions

Then again anything that does not shine a positive light or spin on what we believe is "fake news" especially if the news is ugly

fake news, just like Russian collusion, iraq wmds, and all other gay bullshit of the left

DooDahMan says

AmericanKulak says

I put all the DooDah day on ignore, it's just left wing drivel

And I should care you did this because?

Everything is left wing drivel that exposes ugly in your beliefs and causes.

Like what? Show examples. Nobody likes to be shown to be wrong, but honestly, they secretly like being corrected. Nobody wants to continue to be wrong when they are.

Show examples.

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/chris-queen/2022/06/11/insult-to-injury-disney-parks-guests-complain-about-less-than-magical-experiences-n1604825

Disney parks have been a shit show with costs and crowd levels for a good while.

https://thepricklypear.org/disney-doubles-down-on-lgbtq-programming-with-lightyear-and-more/

https://notthebee.com/article/people-are-legitimately-surprised-that-the-islamic-middle-east-would-censor-a-kids-movie-featuring-a-lesbian-kiss-

People are legitimately surprised that the Islamic Middle East would ban a Pixar movie featuring a lesbian kiss 😆

So Disney's new Pixar movie is gay – like, super gay – and people are SHOCKED to find out that Islamic nations don't want to showcase its gayness.

https://nypost.com/2022/06/13/disneys-lightyear-banned-in-middle-east-over-same-sex-kiss/