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"Social Security is the biggest Ponzi scheme of all time. People pay into Social Security, and the money goes out of Social Security immediately, but the obligation for Social Security is your entire retirement career. If you look at the future obligations of Social Security, it far exceeds the tax revenue. The actual national debt is like double what people think it is because of the future obligations. People are living way longer than expected, and there are fewer babies being born, so you have more people who are retired that live for a long time and get retirement payments. At the risk of being a buzzkill, however bad the financial situation is right now for the federal government, it will be much worse in the future.” - The Joe Rogan Experience, February 28, 2025

Social Security is safer than any alternative.

X to begin placing country in user profiles, YAY!
https://x.com/LeadingReport/status/1978168427396108670

Next step: monetized accounts can only go to a bank account in the same country with the same phone the account was registered in.

That'll at least annoy (but not totally prevent) a lot of Hassans and Baht Bots.

"If the president cannot get things implemented as a reflection of the will of the people, then what we have is not a democracy, but a bureaucracy." - Elon Musk

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1981381858634961271



I'm sure he knows what he's talking about.

Patrick says

I'm sure he knows what he's talking about.

Attorney General of Arkansas commented that the Chinese are conducting the massage parlor operations to destroy social fabric of American society.

“The Dems will not even deport criminals. Because every criminal deported is a lost vote. So, even if somebody is illegal with a criminal record and commits a crime in America, they are still not being deported.” - Elon Musk, The Joe Rogan Podcast, February 28, 2025

“These lovely small towns in England, Scotland, Ireland, they've been living their lives quietly. They're like hobbits, frankly. In fact, JRR Tolkien based the hobbits on people he knew in small-town England because they were just like lovely people who liked to smoke their pipes and have nice meals, and everything's pleasant. The hobbits in the Shire.

He was talking about places like Hertfordshire, like the Shire is around in the Greater London area – Oxfordshire type of thing.

But the reason they've been able to enjoy the Shire is because hard men have protected them from the dangers of the world. But, since they have almost no exposure to the dangers of the world, they don't realize that they're there, until one day, a thousand people show up in your village of 500 out of nowhere and start raping the kids.

This has now happened God knows how many times in Britain.”

~ Elon Musk, The Joe Rogan Experience, October 31, 2025

Here's my take. Tesla is going toilet (sales waaay down and not looking at going up anytime soon). So, Musk asks for an outrageous compensation package of $1 trillion. If he doesn't get it, he "RAGE" quits and Tesla's massive share price drop isn't because of him. -- I like it.

Now it's the only social-media platform where people actually PAY for the privilege of being shadowbanned.


https://x.com/carl_jurassic/status/1657085228400234496

Misc says

Here's my take. Tesla is going toilet (sales waaay down and not looking at going up anytime soon). So, Musk asks for an outrageous compensation package o

Are you in a short position? Shorts have gotten absolutely crushed this year.

The Tesla Model Y was the best selling car in Europe last month. Not best selling EV, but best selling car overall.

The EV market has certainly been transformed now that the subsidies have expired at the end of Q3, but Tesla is the only EV maker that can make GOOD EV's at a profit without government subsidies. All of the other OEM's are in much worse position and have decades of debt and pension liabilities that will be a boat anchor for the foreseeable future.

Also, the latest version of Full Self Driving (Supervised) is extraordinary. No other OEM is even close to Tesla in terms of autonomy.

socal2 says

Are you in a short position? Shorts have gotten absolutely crushed this year.

Tesla stock has been a steady rise from about $300 to about $450 in the last 3 months:

socal2 says

Are you in a short position? Shorts have gotten absolutely crushed this year.

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No short position. I sold my gold at $3300 per ounce. Got to see it go up an extra $1k per ounce. When I sold it, I thought I had made a ton Lets you know how good of a trader I am. Sold my rental properties back in 2021 made a bunch. I figured the rental market was gonna go South the way Trump voided being able to evict non-payers. I figured that kind of thinking would spread Property prices have gone up since then, The moratoriums lasted quite a while in Cali. I think they are gonna come back into vogue during the next downturn. Everything is priced extremely high by historical standards...sure the everything Bubble can pop. Mostly in Treasuries now, I think buy and hold is for suckers,

Misc says

Lets you know how good of a trader I am.

A good one. No sarcasm.

Most people hold on to things hoping for the last 10-20% and take a beating.

DemoralizerOfPanicans says

Most people hold on to things hoping for the last 10-20% and take a beating.

Pigs get fat, but hogs get slaughtered.

DemoralizerOfPanicans says

Most people hold on to things hoping for the last 10-20% and take a beating.

Like Rothchild said, "Leave a little profit for the next guy."

Elon Musk is Putin!!!!!

"Probably a bigger risk than being hunted down by a drone is that AI would be used to make incredibly effective propaganda that would not seem like propaganda. Influence the direction of society, influence elections. Artificial intelligence just hones the message, looks at the feedback, and makes this message slightly better. Within milliseconds, it can adapt its message and shift and react to news. And there are so many social media accounts out there that are not people. How do you know it's a person or not a person?” - Interview with Axios, November 25, 2018

https://grokipedia.com/

80 % to 90% of the money given to NGO's went to Democrats, 10% went to Republicans and these Republicans protested loudly. - Elon Musk, Interview with Joe Rogan

gabbar says
Quoted from a Gabber quote

"Probably a bigger risk than being hunted down by a drone is that AI would be used to make incredibly effective propaganda that would not seem like propaganda. Influence the direction of society, influence elections. Artificial intelligence just hones the message, looks at the feedback, and makes this message slightly better. Within milliseconds, it can adapt its message and shift and react to news. And there are so many social media accounts out there that are not people. How do you know it's a person or not a person?” - Interview with Axios, November 25, 2018

I worry the most about images and video criminally used to screw people over. Government or even someone you know to entrap you with a fake video of yourself or stuff that's going on around you.

It's always been possible with photoshop and video editing software, but AI has advanced enough that courts will not know what is real or fake with little to no technical knowledge.

I'm starting to lose faith in other humans not to take advantage of AI to screw enemies over.

If you look at contributions by journalists over time to the Republican or Democrat Party, if you go back, say, 20, 30 years, it was much more balanced. There would be a third of journalists who donate to the Republican Party, two-thirds would be Dems. And now, it's like 5% of journalists donate to Republicans and 95% donate to Democrats, which obviously leads to a tremendous amount of bias.

I think also a lot of activists have gone into journalism not to report the news, but to create the news. Where does that come from? I think probably that comes from what they're taught in schools. I'm trying to traceroute, like, packets on a network. What's the origin of this? I think if people are taught BS propaganda in schools and then they're told that this is the thing, they should go out in the world and push that. It starts with the education system, I think, and certainly that is a thing to be addressed.”

- Elon Musk, Town Hall Harrisburg, October 19, 2024

WookieMan says

I'm starting to lose faith in other humans not to take advantage of AI to screw enemies over.

You are correct.

gabbar says

WookieMan says

I'm starting to lose faith in other humans not to take advantage of AI to screw enemies over.

You are correct.

The effect will be opposite: now any "kompromat" will be dismissed as "AI slop generated by enemies".

https://ground.news/daily-briefing/musk-predicts-ai-will-make-work-optional-money-irrelevant_0714ff

Elon Musk predicted yesterday at the U.S.-Saudi Investment Forum that AI and robotics will make work optional within 10-20 years and eventually render money irrelevant. Speaking alongside Nvidia CEO Jensen Huang, Musk described poverty as an engineering problem solvable through AI humanoid robots like Tesla's Optimus.

Why would the people with power give away even a sliver of their wealth? We are talking about people like Soros, Gates, and Epstein. Kindness? I don't think so.

More likely that they will simply try to murder most of humanity so that they can have whole planet for themselves. Maybe they will try to do it via some kind of mandatory injection...

“It's very difficult to reduce the size of the bureaucracy and government spending. It comes with immense opposition. Even when the things that we are cutting make no sense at all, it still gets a lot of opposition. We're only cutting the most obvious terrible expenses that make no sense, but nonetheless, we get attacked like crazy.” - Elon Musk

Source: https://x.com/ElonClipsX

Patrick says

https://ground.news/daily-briefing/musk-predicts-ai-will-make-work-optional-money-irrelevant_0714ff

Elon Musk predicted yesterday at the U.S.-Saudi Investment Forum that AI and robotics will make work optional within 10-20 years and eventually render money irrelevant. Speaking alongside Nvidia CEO Jensen Huang, Musk described poverty as an engineering problem solvable through AI humanoid robots like Tesla's Optimus.

Why would the people with power give away even a sliver of their wealth? We are talking about people like Soros, Gates, and Epstein. Kindness? I don't think so.

More likely that they will simply try to murder most of humanity so that they can have whole planet for themselves. Maybe they will try to do it via some kind of mandatory injection...

Elon is not a stupid man so I rule out stupidity, I think he was just flattering Saudis for investment. They are there to keep that stupid AI bubble afloat. There is no money in AI, it's running out of money, about to crash any day if taken off massive life support it's been getting. So I think this is all about keeping that fake bubble alive at our expense. He's hitting up Saudis for some of it, selling out some part of America. Just look how our government announced building nuclear plants, (not for us worthless peasants), but for AI company overlords at whom government is tossing billions of dollars at.

At the end it's still "Fuck the people, save the AI billionaires. All lives for Sam Altman OpenAI and for Nvidia" Government is throwing money out of choppers at AI companies right now. Nation ran by self serving greed no matter who we vote for. Few years more of pretend economy will cost us very very dearly in a long run. Postponed problems are like cancer, they kill you in a long run.

Scary side of it is that we are selling our nation out to murderous muslims for some temporary bubble that will eventually crash anyway, there is no market for it. Not anywhere near the scale they are investing into it.

FortWayneHatesRealtors says

Sam Altman

Raped his sister.

Repeatedly.

As per his sister, so allegedly.

Starship is the first rocket that has the potential to make us a multiplanet civilization. That's truly profound. - Elon Musk

FortWayneHatesRealtors says

He's hitting up Saudis for some of it, selling out some part of America.

Qatar gifts a 400 million dollar plane to President Trump and a few weeks later we bomb Iranian nuclear facilities. Pay to play...that's my conspiracy theory.

Muhammad bin Salman promises a yuge investment...what does he get in return 1. President Trump declares him innocent for murder of Saudi journalist Jamal Khashoggi in press conference in White House. 2. Security guarantee for Saudi Arabia for decades...and 3. it appears that President Trump has forgotten 0/11 was done by Saudi Arabians.

Like Russel Buffalino says in the movie, The Irish Man, "its always the dollar"!

Poor guys are being sent into a meat grinder just for money. That's what's actually going on.

“First of all, I think we should have empathy for the people dying at the front lines. That's the most important thing. How many more years is this supposed to go on? And imagine if that was your son, your father. What exactly are they dying for? The line of engagement has barely moved for two years.

There's a whole bunch of people dead in trenches for what? And I'll tell you for what. It's like, for the biggest graft machine that I've ever seen in my life, that's for what. It's unreal. The amount of money that is being taken in graft and bribery is disgusting. And so, what's actually happening is that those poor guys are getting sent into a meat grinder for money. That's what's actually going on. Yeah. And it needs to stop.”

- Elon Musk, February 20, 2025

We should look at anyone who permanently castrates a kid as a modern-day Josef Mengele. They're mutilating children. - Elon Musk

gabbar says

We should look at anyone who permanently castrates a kid as a modern-day Josef Mengele. They're mutilating children. - Elon Musk

He as a parent allowed that to happen to one of his kids. And it's not like he was short on money or power to fight it.

"Once the Democratic Party in the US and the left in Europe realized that if you have open borders and you provide a ton of government handouts, which creates a massive financial incentive for people from other countries to come to your country, and you don't prosecute them for crime, they're going to be beholden to you and they will vote for you. And that's why Obama and Hillary went from being against open borders to being in favor of open borders.” - Elon Musk, The Joe Rogan Experience, October 31, 2025

I think it is actually human nature to love humanity unless you are indoctrinated otherwise. The actual default for most people is to love humanity and to love being around their fellow humans. For example, one of the worst punishments in prison is solitary confinement. All solitary confinement means is that you don't get to hang out with the other prisoners, which might not be the best group of people to hang out with, but even that is considered a terrible punishment to not be able to hang out with other prisoners. So in truth, I think in our nature, we all love humanity unless we are indoctrinated otherwise.”

- Elon Musk, European Jewish Association, January 22, 2024

RWSGFY says

gabbar says

We should look at anyone who permanently castrates a kid as a modern-day Josef Mengele. They're mutilating children. - Elon Musk

He as a parent allowed that to happen to one of his kids. And it's not like he was short on money or power to fight it.

Back then the ENTIRE medical and elite establishment were saying this was the correct treatment by saying would you rather have a dead son or a living trans daughter.

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1997279325876367719

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/running-for-dexit-saturday-december

But after a liberal woman judge bent the rules to punish Musk —there’s no other way to put it— Delaware has faced a steady erosion of its status as corporate America’s default home. Unsurprisingly, Tesla and SpaceX rage-quit Delaware as fast as the paperwork could be shoved through the little window to panicked Delawarean state clerks who kept pretending the office was closed for renovations.

Oh, and Musk complained. Loudly. In public. On the world’s most popular social media platform. For years. It took a toll. Headline from Reuters, this May:

In Tesla's wake, more big companies propose voting "Dexit" to depart Delaware
By Tom Hals May 14, 2025

According to that Reuters article, by this May, thirteen major U.S. billion-dollar corporations had either already voted to depart Delaware or had votes scheduled to approve such a move. The media took to calling it “Dexit,” which financial reporters thought was a very clever name but which never caught on with normal people, for some reason.

The controversy also encouraged a slew of other states, smelling blood in the corporate water, to begin legislating like crazy, seeking to seduce the country’s biggest companies into reincorporating in their jurisdictions. This caused Delaware politicians, who had always enjoyed a close camaraderie and good working relationship with the state’s corporate citizens in the form of generous campaign donations, to panic and start proposing reams of new laws to shred the wings off the state judiciary, which seemed to have lost its damned mind.

Enter the Delaware Supreme Court. Yesterday, in an unsurpassed display of judicial independence, and demonstrating the profound courage of its convictions, hastily ran up the white flag. In its unanimous decision yesterday, the five-member state Supreme Court wrote that “although the justices have varying views on the liability determination, we agree that rescission was an improper remedy.”

The short version is they didn’t exactly admit they were wrong. Instead, they fined Musk $1 (one dollar) and restored his full “unfair” pay package. Ironically, back in 2018, the bonus stock would have been worth $59 billion. Now, seven years later, it is valued at $139 billion. So.

Musk’s origin story is so delicious it is worth retelling. On May 9, 2020 —a day that will live in Democrat infamy— at the height of Alameda County’s covid‑shutdown fight over Tesla’s Fremont factory, California state Assemblywoman Lorena Gonzalez (D‑San Diego), intoxicated by pandemic powers, drunk-tweeted “F*ck Elon Musk,” and the rest, as they say, was history.

Musk, intensely frustrated that his car plant was deemed “non-essential” by county officials, saw the tweet immediately. Musk shot back, “Message received.” It underscored that a Democratic state official was openly hostile to one of the state’s most prominent employers, and signaled that the billionaire took the insult personally, as confirmation of California’s broader opposition to him— not for his political ideology, but over pandemic policy.

At that time, mind you, Musk publicly described himself as a Democrat voter and donor. After all, he specialized in “green technology” that directly benefited from Democrat electric car subsidies. Musk donated to politicians and causes in both parties, but had a long record of backing Democrats, and described himself as a supporter of Obama, Clinton, and then Biden in 2020.

But thanks to Lorena “Dumb as Rocks” Gonzalez, as quickly as possible for humans or robots, Musk moved his companies from California to Texas. By 2022, he’d switched his party registration and was urging voters to back Republicans. He was funding GOP candidates and pro‑Trump PACs heavily, and positioning himself as a key cultural and regulatory antagonist of the same Democrat Party he once supported.

You can’t beat the irony with two belts. Had there been a single sane Democrat anywhere in California in May 2020, Elon Musk might never have swallowed the red pill. History is funny like that. Be sure to send Lorena Gonzalez a Christmas card this year.