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Tenpoundbass says

The Truth is Truth Social isn't going to go anywhere. It's doomed to fail hard and fast.

You don't understand the problem.

There's a bunch of money invested in Truth Social, Trump can't abandon it just because Twitter was purchased by Elon Musk. He has a fiduciary duty to keep it going.

WookieMan says

zzyzzx says

Self serve kiosks are slower because most people are morons

This. My first W-2 job was a bagger at a grocery store when I was 14. I like the self serve to be honest, because I know how to use it and be quick about it. Even with full service I'll still put my frozen foods next to each other, cold stuff like cheese together, boxes together, etc. to make it quicker for them to bag it. And living in the country I need to keep the cold stuff with cold stuff for a 20-30 minute drive. I'm polite, but if I see them fucking up bagging I do say something.

McDonalds it makes no sense to automate it. Though I rarely go. Last time I dealt with it I just walked away and let the wife handle it. No patience on my end. It's so much easier to say I want a #4 or whatever with large fry and Coke to a person that uses the system daily. Groceries are different if you've had to scan them an...

No, the problem is that with the increase in ability and smarts of AI/Automation systems there is a proportional decrease of ability and smarts in the common people. Idiocracy demonstrated this phenomenon many years ago

Tenpoundbass says

Instead he puts out a definitive statement that he will no doubt have to back track if it does take off and freedom is restored. Hell

My first thought when he bluntly said no to rejoining twitter was that he knew doing that would kill truth social, because many people wish to join there specifically to hear trump. If he were to mitigate that exclusive benefit of joining, it would probably make his business partners and investors furious at him, not to mention hurt his own pockets.

But I suspect hell go back to twitter in time (after TS flounders)

Hircus says

But I suspect hell go back to twitter in time (after TS flounders)

Musk may find out he can't change Twatter and in which case Truth Social can be a competitor.

Trump may find out that Truth Social does OK even despite Twatter doing well and reforming as well, but could angle that into a buyout of Truth Social by Twatter.

I don't think Trump should go back to Twatter not just yet, but TS needs a fucking web interface.

Elon Musk posted this earlier

I really like this one.


Although if a bad actor were to want access to someone's DMs, I dont see why they cant just turn off the encryption, or man in the middle it. Of course you probably need to change twitter code to do that, but big govt can make that happen. But, at least theres a chance, assuming the e2e is done well, that they cannot read past DMs, only future DMs after changing the code.

I wonder how many twitter employees have been spying on conservative DMs?

Hircus says

But, at least theres a chance, assuming the e2e is done well, that they cannot read past DMs,

The only reason to have a centralized server is to intercept communication today. I'm working with NAT traversal right now which allows your machine to DIRECTLY communicate with my machine (through multiple servers of course, but not a centralized one - just switches). This is frustratingly hard as shit to figure out how it works, but once you understand it, it's amazingly simple.

Skype was E2E P2P originally. Making P2P is entirely undocumented (I'LL FIX THAT GOD DAMN IT) but one you get past that point, E2E is truly possible.

The whole internet today is based on the idea that these two things are "hard to do" - and they aren't.

Tenpoundbass says

Elon Musk posted this earlier

Overton window?

WineHorror1 says

Overton window?

No, the "Overton Window" is from center to the left in the last drawing. Overton Window is what beliefs and thoughts are allowed to be discussed dictated by the media in polite society. You can't discuss the (now) 800 people who are in prison for protesting that they thought was an rigged election on January 6th within that context. Who mentions it? Nobody does, so you can't either.

richwicks says

Hircus says

But, at least theres a chance, assuming the e2e is done well, that they cannot read past DMs,

The only reason to have a centralized server is to intercept communication today. I'm working with NAT traversal right now which allows your machine to DIRECTLY communicate with my machine (through multiple servers of course, but not a centralized one - just switches). This is frustratingly hard as shit to figure out how it works, but once you understand it, it's amazingly simple.

Skype was E2E P2P originally. Making P2P is entirely undocumented (I'LL FIX THAT GOD DAMN IT) but one you get past that point, E2E is truly possible.

The whole internet today is based on the idea that these two things are "hard to do" - and they aren't.

Sorry I’m not specialized like you and I’m sure this is a dumb question, but isn’t this what the entire internet is designed to do?

Like you have a server you want to communicate with, all you have to do is know the IP. There’s no central server required. Traffic gets routed dynamically however it needs to go.

NAT only comes in because there aren’t enough ip addresses, but you just need to setup a port forward from your router.

This is how I’m able to watch my Plex server when I’m away from home. Plex isn’t routing all my traffic through their servers, that would cost a fortune. Pretty sure lots of stuff works like this. Do things like Plex where I have to setup a port forward still route traffic through a central server?

Tenpoundbass says

Elon Musk posted this earlier

Confirmed by Pew Q&A.





Keep in mind Pew has been asking the same set of questions in all of these surveys. While Republicans softened on Gay Marriage, they hardened a notch on Economic issues, and in 20 years went about half a single point to the right.

Whereas the Dems went hole hog to the left from "5" to "2" on both Social AND Economic Issues during these periods.

Also notice how tall the furthest left shoulder is compared to the right in 2015.

pudil says

Sorry I’m not specialized like you and I’m sure this is a dumb question, but isn’t this what the entire internet is designed to do?

Quick answer: Yes it is!

EDIT: Making this shorter:

It's not now because of NAT. NAT was a baind-aid while we waited for IPV6 that never came. IPV4 allows you to share multiple computers with one IP address, and this means that a machine on the outside world can't connect directly to any computer behind the NAT without setup. To prove it, try access my computer with IPV6 on ports 22, 80, or 443.

$ ifconfig
inet6 2600:1700:2320:9d60::44 prefixlen 128 scopeid 0x0
inet6 2600:1700:2320:9d60:88d:8c6f:361a:a724 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x0
inet6 2600:1700:2320:9d60:d62f:ae45:f444:f8b1 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x0
inet6 2600:1700:2320:9d60:6cf3:ad01:102c:3c9 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x0
inet6 2600:1700:2320:9d60:9c4e:ddde:9e1f:f7c3 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x0

Those are global addresses, supposedly. GLOBAL addresses don't route properly, the excuse is "well, we haven't gotten IPV6 fully running yet" - the IPV6 scheme was made in the 1980s before web browsers existed.

Now you CAN put "holes" in your router to router incoming packets to particular computers, like I'm doing with this:

https://samoyed.dynu.net/?source=patrick.net

(that's my machine)

pudil says

NAT only comes in because there aren’t enough ip addresses, but you just need to setup a port forward from your router.

You know Joe 6-Pack isn't going to do that. I know engineers in Silicon Valley that won't change the default ANYTHING on their NAT router. It's really neat that I can access my computer remotely, took a few minutes to setup. I have tons of books, films, audio files on my computer. I have work on this machine. This machine is a real server.

pudil says

This is how I’m able to watch my Plex server when I’m away from home. Plex isn’t routing all my traffic through their servers, that would cost a fortune. Pretty sure lots of stuff works like this. Do things like Plex where I have to setup a port forward still route traffic through a central server?

They have solutions for specific problems and reading about it:

https://support.plex.tv/articles/200289506-remote-access/?source=patrick.net

It's using NAT traversal, with an ACCOUNT. I see it needs "Plex-Pass" - a subscription service: https://www.plex.tv/plex-pass/?source=patrick.net. It's also using NAT-PMP which is astonishingly rare but really, NAT-PMP isn't needed STUN works very well and it's simple.

You can have a solution for EVERY thing not just for video. All these old protocols, mail, USEnet, ytalk, all this old stuff, it can be brought back. You can run it on a raspberry pi, 10 watts, and hang a 10 TB drive off from it. Patrick really COULD run this site off from a raspberry pi at home, but then you'd be like "what? I need to install this app to be able to access Patrick's website? FFFf that", but it would be impossible to censor anybody. They'd have to go to Patrick's home, and confiscated his machine.

NO servers, NO subscription, NONE of that bullshit. Can't trust corporations.

https://kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/this-is-this/?source=patrick.net

The government’s first counter-move, under the vividly deliquescing “Joe Biden” — whose treasonous corruption became Twitter’s job-one to conceal — was to concoct a brand-new agency under Homeland Security called the Disinformation Governance Board, to be run by one Nina Jankowicz, “internationally-recognized expert on disinformation and democratization,” who also happened to be a RussiaGate shill and publicist for the fifty national security officials who labeled the Hunter Biden laptop story “Russian disinformation” (turned out: not). In other words, America now has a “truth” kommissar who is a soldier in the War on Truth.

Such a desperately stupid maneuver could only come from a regime close to collapse — just as the feculent particulars on Hunter Biden’s laptop are being revealed by many in possession of copies of the laptop’s hard-drive, and while, concurrently, the US attorney in Delaware, David Weiss, leads an investigation into Hunter B’s business dealings. Those include large-ish payments from nations hostile to American interests for opaque services rendered. So, you have a chief executive (“JB”) compromised mentally and legally, and installed via a janky primary and a dubious election, and, some young cookie fresh out of the Princeton fellowship matrix is going to defend him like Wonder Woman wielding her Magic Lasso of Aphrodite?

Homey don’t think so. Homey think the whole wretched episode of orchestrated national mindfuckery is about to come a’tumblin’ down, along with the miserable ghoul in the Oval Office. And that will be followed by the fun of seeing them try to eject Kamala Harris from the scene and replacing her with the likes of Barack or Michele Obama. (Don’t believe it? Just watch.) Of course, all that will be small potatoes to the reveal of cosmic ineptitude or gross criminality (perhaps both!) that is bound to come as Twitter opens up to discussion of our government’s role in the Covid-19 fiasco — which I aimed to help kick off with my first Tweet in long long time, viz:

That is a Tweet that would have instantly gotten you banned only about a week ago. I had to check that it's really there:

https://twitter.com/Jhkunstler/status/1519479746010169345?source=patrick.net#m

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1520017094007476224?cxt=HHwWgMCyzcvfl5gqAAAA&source=patrick.net

Elon Musk
@elonmusk
The far left hates everyone, themselves included!
5:28 AM · Apr 29, 2022·Twitter for iPhone

Elon seems on track to become a hero to conservatives.
I wonder how this will affect sales of Tesla cars? They’re still back ordered from Liberals, but now will conservatives be interested in driving something that fills up with electrons? Was this whole move to free Twitter a ploy to get the right half of the country into a place where they’re willing to consider buying a Tesla?

Shaman says

Elon seems on track to become a hero to conservatives.
I wonder how this will affect sales of Tesla cars? They’re still back ordered from Liberals, but now will conservatives be interested in driving something that fills up with electrons? Was this whole move to free Twitter a ploy to get the right half of the country into a place where they’re willing to consider buying a Tesla?

Conservatives have likely bought more Teslas: they have jobs that pay enough money to afford a Tesla. I'm a conservative. I invested in the Company at the beginning of COVID and got lucky: it went 5x. I traded off 80% of my shares (overweight), left the proceeds in my portfolio to grow, and bought a Tesla because I could now afford the payments.
The Model Y is a great car with near zero maintenance and costs about $20 a fillup.

I'm waiting on the Cybertruck, coolest looking car since the ealy 60s Thunderbird and can tow like a champ.

AmericanKulak says

I'm waiting on the Cybertruck, coolest looking car since the ealy 60s Thunderbird and can tow like a champ.

That will likely be my next one too.

Meanwhile, absolutely loving the shit out of my new Model Y. I am 3+ months in and still can't get over how powerful and fast this thing is...

Shaman says

Elon seems on track to become a hero to conservatives.

It's quite possible that Elon knows America needs a new hero, and is using that to buy up Twitter. He will then use that as a catalyst to rebuild Twitter in a free speech platform. Build it up as an Elon Musk company taking it well over $1,000 a share, only then to sell it right back to the bastards that fucked it up in the first place. But pocketing the biggest profit ever made on a single purchase.
But yeah it will be a hell of a ride in the meantime.

If Elon does try to build Twitter into a truly free speech platform, he is likely to get JFKed. I don't think its gonna happen in reality.

Tenpoundbass says

Elon Musk posted this earlier

By the way, you saw it first on Pat.net last December.
https://patrick.net/post/1342889?offset=0#comment-1804774

The guy who drew it, Colin Wright, also co-wrote this WSJ editorial: The Dangerous Denial of Sex .

gabbar says

If Elon does try to build Twitter into a truly free speech platform, he is likely to get JFKed. I don't think its gonna happen in reality.

I don't think Musk is going to try. Remember the brewhaha over Musk smoking a joint on the Rogan Show? They were threatening to remove his security clearance.

He's false opposition.

Twitter has always been a cesspool, I don't think it's going to change. I think the more radical (and dumb) people are going to be pitted against one another, stuff like Creationist Fundamentalist that thinks that Earth is Flat versus Liberal transgendered moron with a womyns study degree that knows nothing about science but believes everything "the science" says. Two intractable positions where neither is smart enough to progress beyond. It will be hard far right versus the hard far left, and the middle will just be caught in between them.

https://rumble.com/v12j50n-twitter-employees-the-day-after-elon-takes-over.html?source=patrick.net


original link

LOL.

Shaman says

Elon seems on track to become a hero to conservatives.
I wonder how this will affect sales of Tesla cars? They’re still back ordered from Liberals, but now will conservatives be interested in driving something that fills up with electrons? Was this whole move to free Twitter a ploy to get the right half of the country into a place where they’re willing to consider buying a Tesla?

I think the majority of Americans need cheaper cars than a Tesla.

The majority of Americans aren’t required. Hell, Tesla can’t fulfill the orders they already have. But to bring over the more well off of conservatives would be a real coup!

WineHorror1 says

I think the majority of Americans need cheaper cars than a Tesla.

We already have affordable hybrids.

Tesla is currently the luxury version of the EV, since its rivals like Porsche failed to get its market share a few years ago.

Rin says

We already have affordable hybrids.

What do you consider an affordable hybrid?

https://nitter.pussthecat.org/Not_the_Bee/status/1518609586990637058?source=patrick.net

https://rumble.com/v12niiu-breaking-elon-musk-buys-twitter-the-left-melts-down.html?source=patrick.net


original link

WineHorror1 says

Rin says

We already have affordable hybrids.

What do you consider an affordable hybrid?

Thanks to the effects of inflation, that would be the Hyundai Elantra Hybrid at $23-28K which is roughly in the similar territory as its ICU counterpart w/ options separating the pricing areas. So that's 49 mpg (Hybrid) vs ~29 mpg (ICU) in the city where the difference is made up in terms of annual gas costs.