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2022 Apr 26, 8:30am   7,896 views  72 comments

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Now that Russia clearly stated the intent to attack Moldova I need expert's input on why this would be justified:

- There are Nazis there!
- There are bioWEAPONS labs there.
- There are Nazi-operated bioWEAPONS labs there.
- Russia needs a buffer safety zone between their border and NATO.
- Moldova is hosting NATO weapons.
- It's necessary to protect Nord Stream 2 pipeline in the Black Sea.
- US has overturned Moldova in 2014.
- US bombed Dresden in 1944.
- Bush lied about WMDs in Iraq.
- ALL OF THE ABOVE.

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61   mostly reader   2022 Apr 28, 9:49am  

ad says
Here are a few major factors motivating Putin and his Kremlin entourage.
There's more. There's been this long ideological tension based on two mental models.

Model 1: Kyiv is the mother of Russian cities, Moscow is historically inferior, Ukrainians of today are the true historical heirs of that state, and their language is the closest thing that we have to the language of that Rus. Meanwhile, Moskovits are the surviving subs of the Golden Orda.

Model 2: Kyiv has been seized by second-rate humans who now call themselves Ukrainians.

The only people who care about using either model are in Russia. Neither one should have any practical implication. But folks over there are quite high on this kind of historical ideology. Model 2 was, and still remains, the propagated policy of the Rashist state. It's a good tone over there to make fun of Ukrainians, their language, and overall treat them as those funny inferior "little brothers" in folksy humor. That's why "Rashists" is a very fitting term, and that's why taking Kyiv would've been a very important ideological achievement for them.
62   Eric Holder   2022 Apr 28, 10:13am  

Seems to me the only real reason for going into Moldova is the restoration of the USSR on the 100th anniversary of its original creation (December 28th). Because whatever bogus reasons were given for attacking Ukraine ("Nazis", "NATO weapons", "bioWEAPONS labs", "drug addicts and clowns in the government", yada-yada-yada) are not applicable to Moldova in the slightest. Moldova is non-aligned neutral country (just like Ukraine was prior to Russian attack in 2014, btw), the anclave Russia carved out there in early 1990s has been stable since then and not a single shot fired in almost 30 years. And no recent unrest of any kind until the intent to move in has been declared and, conveniently, "terrorist attacks" have began.

Putin pretty much had Kazahstan in the bag by the end of January, planned to have Ukraine all mopped up by May 9th, so Moldova is the natural next stop and then onwards to the Baltic states ("Do you REALLY want to die for Narva? I didn't think so")... Why are they doing it seemingly out of order, being far from "mopping up" stage in Ukraine? My guess would be they need some kind of "victory" to be declared by May 9th parade, and Ukraine is not happening (not by May 9th at least), so Moldova is a low-hanging fruit they could try to gobble up in the shrinking time window. They already have ~2000 Russian troops there and Moldova basically has no viable army at all, so with some additional VDV guys delivered by plane right into the capital city airport they might have a chance to do it fast. (Basically same plan they tried in Hostomel but got their asses torn off and handed back to them).

US under Dem rule was supposed to be stunted into inaction by "There be Nazis! Nazis!", Germany - by its dependence on Russian gas (and its politicians being pretty much on Moscow's payroll), France ... well, France is France.
63   richwicks   2022 Apr 28, 7:21pm  

mostly reader says
richwicks says
Again: Exact quote.
No need because you just did it again.


No, exact quote, and link to it.

After that, I will do some piecing together.

Without an exact quote, you're just engaging in libel. It doesn't change the outcome of this war. Notice all those soldiers underground in Mariopol are no longer mentioned? Why is that? Is it because they were killed, they surrendered, they are still biding their time ready to retake Mariopol?

It's because they've been sealed in and left to die of starvation. Our media will never mention them again.

mostly reader says
There's overwhelming amount of evidence - videos, satellite images (confirmed by BBC among others)


HAHAHA! Jesus!

Our governments lie.
Our media system is public relations for our government, it's propaganda.
64   mostly reader   2022 Apr 28, 10:55pm  

personal
65   richwicks   2022 Apr 28, 10:58pm  

mostly reader says
richwicks says
No, exact quote, and link to it.
I feel that I'm talking to a retard


That's interesting. Quick scan had no links again.

Provide quotes of mine with links.
66   mostly reader   2022 Apr 28, 11:05pm  

richwicks says
Provide quotes of mine with links.

https://patrick.net/post/1344281/?comment_id=1836354

Your quote: "Considering it was Bucha, I tend to think it was the Western Ukrainians"

Then you repeated this rashist propaganda BS here (will you require link for that too?) This made the original quote unnecessary, yet you kept asking for it. Did you not remember what you yourself wrote? Are you demented?

Worth repeating: I think that you are scum and a propaganda troll with your tongue so far up Putin's asshole that it tickles your tonsils.
67   Patrick   2022 Apr 29, 12:06am  

richwicks says
mostly reader says
richwicks says
I don't care what Russia does...
This is when all who's been following you have a good laugh. You have your tongue so far up Putin's asshole that his butt hair is tingling your tonsils.


After about 10 of those very deliberately personal comments in direct violation of just about the only rule this site has, I'm banning mostly reader for a few days:

update users set user_suspended_until='2022-05-01 05:37:46' where user_name='mostly reader';
68   richwicks   2022 Apr 29, 12:12am  

Patrick says
richwicks says
mostly reader says
richwicks says
I don't care what Russia does...
This is when all who's been following you have a good laugh. You have your tongue so far up Putin's asshole that his butt hair is tingling your tonsils.


After about 10 of those very deliberately personal comments in direct violation of just about the only rule this site has, I'm banning mostly reader for a few days:


@Patrick - No, it's not necessary. You know I have a thick skin. You never have to worry about what is written about me.

http://sl4.org/crocker.html?source=patrick.net
69   AmericanKulak   2022 Apr 29, 12:12am  

I don't give two shits that Yandex or the FSB knows I've gone down the Rin route of banging dolls and am working on customizing a Siberian Shamaness or Viking Princess to fulfill my Conan Fantasy. They couldn't give a fuck less.

I do give two shits that the NSA (via MI5/6) and Google have all my political posts and are very interested that I buy LifeStraws and shop online for .45 Long Colt.
70   Patrick   2022 Apr 29, 12:35am  

richwicks says
Patrick - No, it's not necessary. You know I have a thick skin. You never have to worry about what is written about me.


I noticed you were not bothered by it, but it bothers me.

Things collapse when personal insults are allowed.
71   Patrick   2022 Apr 29, 12:43am  

richwicks says
http://sl4.org/crocker.html?source=patrick.net


I like that rule. Heard it before, but never saw it explained clearly:


Declaring yourself to be operating by "Crocker's Rules" means that other people are allowed to optimize their messages for information, not for being nice to you. Crocker's Rules means that you have accepted full responsibility for the operation of your own mind - if you're offended, it's your fault. Anyone is allowed to call you a moron and claim to be doing you a favor. (Which, in point of fact, they would be. One of the big problems with this culture is that everyone's afraid to tell you you're wrong, or they think they have to dance around it.) Two people using Crocker's Rules should be able to communicate all relevant information in the minimum amount of time, without paraphrasing or social formatting. Obviously, don't declare yourself to be operating by Crocker's Rules unless you have that kind of mental discipline.

Note that Crocker's Rules does not mean you can insult people; it means that other people don't have to worry about whether they are insulting you. Crocker's Rules are a discipline, not a privilege. Furthermore, taking advantage of Crocker's Rules does not imply reciprocity. How could it? Crocker's Rules are something you do for yourself, to maximize information received - not something you grit your teeth over and do as a favor.

"Crocker's Rules" are named after Lee Daniel Crocker.
72   richwicks   2022 Apr 29, 1:01am  

Patrick says
I like that rule. Heard it before, but never saw it explained clearly:


I think we all end up adopting the rule anyhow once you get old enough and you're talking to somebody anonymous. It's a good rule in discussion. The only person that really can insult you is you. You have to believe that what is said may possibly be true.

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