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Tenpoundbass
2022 Apr 28, 5:54am
Tenpoundbass
2022 Apr 28, 5:54am
And now for my next trick I'll talk to a painfully shy person for 90 minutes!
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Tenpoundbass
2022 Apr 28, 5:57am
Tenpoundbass
2022 Apr 28, 5:57am
ohomen171 says
You could have said if he doesn't turn Twitter around from the Propaganda Censorious cesspit it has become, his lenders will be unhappy.
If he goes out on the fringes and the platform becomes a vehicle for fake news, propaganda, and extreme politics, he will start to lose money and have a very unhappy lender
You could have said if he doesn't turn Twitter around from the Propaganda Censorious cesspit it has become, his lenders will be unhappy.
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GNL
2022 Apr 28, 7:08am
GNL
2022 Apr 28, 7:08am
ohomen171 says
The whole "authentication of humans" online bothers me and others. A LOT.
One sentence would summarize his whole philosophy in life as follows:
"When I die, I want to leave the world a much better place than it was when I was born."
The whole "authentication of humans" online bothers me and others. A LOT.
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FuckTheMainstreamMedia
2022 Apr 28, 10:27am
FuckTheMainstreamMedia
2022 Apr 28, 10:27am
WineHorror1 says
Why?
Twitter was never intended for users to be anonymous.
Verifying that accounts aren’t bots has done wonders for Ticketmaster…at least as far as a consumer like myself is concerned.
ohomen171 saysOne sentence would summarize his whole philosophy in life as follows:
"When I die, I want to leave the world a much better place than it was when I was born."
The whole "authentication of humans" online bothers me and others. A LOT.
Why?
Twitter was never intended for users to be anonymous.
Verifying that accounts aren’t bots has done wonders for Ticketmaster…at least as far as a consumer like myself is concerned.
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GNL
2022 Apr 28, 11:22am
GNL
2022 Apr 28, 11:22am
FuckTheMainstreamMedia says
Because the government, as it becomes more tyrannical, will have a record of your thoughts.
WineHorror1 saysohomen171 saysOne sentence would summarize his whole philosophy in life as follows:
"When I die, I want to leave the world a much better place than it was when I was born."
The whole "authentication of humans" online bothers me and others. A LOT.
Why?
Twitter was never intended for users to be anonymous.
Verifying that accounts aren’t bots has done wonders for Ticketmaster…at least as far as a consumer like myself is concerned.
Because the government, as it becomes more tyrannical, will have a record of your thoughts.
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GNL
2022 Apr 28, 11:23am
GNL
2022 Apr 28, 11:23am
I thought this was a good comment I read on another site...
"My guess is that the System intends to use this to end anonymity on the web.
Yes, there will be something closer to “Free Speech”, but you will be required to authenticate your identity, every tweet will be tied to a digital ID that ties to your identity, and everything you say can and will be used against you in a political court in the future.
They’ll say: Yes, we can have everyone back on the Twitter platform, but to contain inflammatory, violent, or abusive speech we will need to have everyone “authenticated” with a blue check mark so we know who is speaking.
They will say that this is an effort to stop the “spam bots” and it will be praised as a way to get “everyone a blue check mark, not just the pundits” and all the plebs will cheer their enslavement to a digital ID.
This Digital ID will then continue to morph to become a banking ID, a health ID, your driver’s license, and ID for when the next “variant” happens with COVID.
Get ready for your digital ID, folks. That’s what this is.
Nothing that was created by the System (in this case, Musk), will do anything but strengthen the Beast System. It’s a tautology, if that’s the right word.
No amount of cynicism and skepticism is too much at this point."
"My guess is that the System intends to use this to end anonymity on the web.
Yes, there will be something closer to “Free Speech”, but you will be required to authenticate your identity, every tweet will be tied to a digital ID that ties to your identity, and everything you say can and will be used against you in a political court in the future.
They’ll say: Yes, we can have everyone back on the Twitter platform, but to contain inflammatory, violent, or abusive speech we will need to have everyone “authenticated” with a blue check mark so we know who is speaking.
They will say that this is an effort to stop the “spam bots” and it will be praised as a way to get “everyone a blue check mark, not just the pundits” and all the plebs will cheer their enslavement to a digital ID.
This Digital ID will then continue to morph to become a banking ID, a health ID, your driver’s license, and ID for when the next “variant” happens with COVID.
Get ready for your digital ID, folks. That’s what this is.
Nothing that was created by the System (in this case, Musk), will do anything but strengthen the Beast System. It’s a tautology, if that’s the right word.
No amount of cynicism and skepticism is too much at this point."
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GNL
2022 Apr 28, 11:25am
GNL
2022 Apr 28, 11:25am
What if I can be doxxed? Would it REALLY be free speech if there is a consequence?
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FuckTheMainstreamMedia
2022 Apr 28, 11:30am
FuckTheMainstreamMedia
2022 Apr 28, 11:30am
That doesn’t make any sense. Facebook is your real name, work, if you e had an address and public information, it’s out there. Go google yourself and see. I have a unique last name…there’s fewer than 100 people with that last name in the US. So a search is super easy.
Criticizing Twitter for not being available as a platform performing functions it was never intended to perform seems like…something one not ought be complaining about.
I know of only one site that is truly anonymous and it’s because they have the servers in a nation that isn’t friendly with anyone…somewhere in Eastern Europe…I think maybe Moldova.
I guarantee you if someone was determined, they could find out who you are and what your postings here at Pat.net are.
Criticizing Twitter for not being available as a platform performing functions it was never intended to perform seems like…something one not ought be complaining about.
I know of only one site that is truly anonymous and it’s because they have the servers in a nation that isn’t friendly with anyone…somewhere in Eastern Europe…I think maybe Moldova.
I guarantee you if someone was determined, they could find out who you are and what your postings here at Pat.net are.
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FuckTheMainstreamMedia
2022 Apr 28, 11:34am
FuckTheMainstreamMedia
2022 Apr 28, 11:34am
WineHorror1 says
Again this makes zero sense. You can go to you local busy intersection, get on a bullhorn, and rant on whatever you want. No one will stop you not infringe on your free speech rights. But some people might think differently of you. They could ignore you in the future, badmouth you, complain to your employer.
You are arguing that anonymity is a necessary element of free speech and that’s not correct at all.
What if I can be doxxed? Would it REALLY be free speech if there is a consequence?
Again this makes zero sense. You can go to you local busy intersection, get on a bullhorn, and rant on whatever you want. No one will stop you not infringe on your free speech rights. But some people might think differently of you. They could ignore you in the future, badmouth you, complain to your employer.
You are arguing that anonymity is a necessary element of free speech and that’s not correct at all.
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GNL
2022 Apr 28, 11:35am
GNL
2022 Apr 28, 11:35am
FuckTheMainstreamMedia says
That's why I don't have a FB account.
FuckTheMainstreamMedia says
Not easily. If people can see my face, name and any other identifies when I tweet, I cannot be truthful.
Facebook is your real name, work, if you e had an address and public information, it’s out there.
That's why I don't have a FB account.
FuckTheMainstreamMedia says
I guarantee you if someone was determined, they could find out who you are and what your postings here at Pat.net are.
Not easily. If people can see my face, name and any other identifies when I tweet, I cannot be truthful.
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richwicks
2022 Apr 28, 12:03pm
richwicks
2022 Apr 28, 12:03pm
FuckTheMainstreamMedia says
Right. It was designed to identify dissidents, silence critics and to promote propaganda.
Gee whis, who doesn't want to sign up.
Why?
Twitter was never intended for users to be anonymous
Right. It was designed to identify dissidents, silence critics and to promote propaganda.
Gee whis, who doesn't want to sign up.
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richwicks
2022 Apr 28, 12:07pm
richwicks
2022 Apr 28, 12:07pm
FuckTheMainstreamMedia says
Remember when you paid extra to have an unlisted # so you didn't have to put up with random idiots contacting you?
People STILL don't get it. Everything you type on Facebook and everything you say in what's app is recorded. How do I know? Less than $30 of storage to do this now. It's cheap to do and if it's cheap, it's done.
That doesn’t make any sense. Facebook is your real name, work, if you e had an address and public information, it’s out there.
Remember when you paid extra to have an unlisted # so you didn't have to put up with random idiots contacting you?
People STILL don't get it. Everything you type on Facebook and everything you say in what's app is recorded. How do I know? Less than $30 of storage to do this now. It's cheap to do and if it's cheap, it's done.
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SunnyvaleCA
2022 Apr 28, 12:09pm
Historically, free speech wasn't particularly anonymous... You could anonymously write a book, but the non-anonymous publisher might refuse to publish your book and a non-anonymous bookstore might refuse to carry your book. A non-anonymous newspaper might refuse to publish your anonymous letter to the editor.
What's really changed with the internet age is that the government, the Democratic party, and progressive mob now uses computer algorithms to bulk-gather non-anonymous data to use as a weapon against those they disagree with. The surveillance is more complete than in the past.
What's really changed with the internet age is that the government, the Democratic party, and progressive mob now uses computer algorithms to bulk-gather non-anonymous data to use as a weapon against those they disagree with. The surveillance is more complete than in the past.
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SunnyvaleCA
2022 Apr 28, 12:12pm
Couldn't those wishing for non-anonymous speech could set a filter that ignores all non-"blue checkmark" twits? Seems like a very easy approach.
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clambo
2022 Apr 28, 3:14pm
I'm pissed that a foreign born bitch with foreign parents helped throw an election for president.
They all like the money here but they don't like our Constitution nor culture.
A Mexican female was bragging to me about her rich culture and how inferior ours is; I said we didn't kidnap and kill people on top of a pyramid to make it rain.
They all like the money here but they don't like our Constitution nor culture.
A Mexican female was bragging to me about her rich culture and how inferior ours is; I said we didn't kidnap and kill people on top of a pyramid to make it rain.
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richwicks
2022 Apr 28, 3:46pm
richwicks
2022 Apr 28, 3:46pm
SunnyvaleCA says
All of our founding fathers had pen names for a reason. Anonymous speech is required when going against a corrupt government in the beginning stages. It's not required once you have disseminated the information to enough people. The reason anonymous free speech is under attack, is we're JUST under that threshold.
SunnyvaleCA says
We've never had so much surveillance ever in history. If the USSR was still around today, it would be a nightmare for those in the Soviet Bloc.
What's changed with the Internet is that anonymous, free speech IS available, but its under attack. I doubt our government is any more corrupt than it was 30 years ago, but what has certainly changed is people's awareness of it. It was only 30 years ago that if you said "that guy doesn't trust the mainstream media" was code for "that guy is a nut". Our media has always protected corruption to some level, but this is a new level of it.
If this was 1990 today, and Hunter Biden's photographs and business dealings were known, he'd be thrown out of government to maintain legitimacy. Our media would have covered it to maintain their legitimacy. For some, bizarre reason, they think that if they just control Facebook, Google, and Twitter, and the entire establishment press ignores it, that nobody will be aware of it.
Historically, free speech wasn't particularly anonymous... You could anonymously write a book, but the non-anonymous publisher might refuse to publish your book and a non-anonymous bookstore might refuse to carry your book. A non-anonymous newspaper might refuse to publish your anonymous letter to the editor.
All of our founding fathers had pen names for a reason. Anonymous speech is required when going against a corrupt government in the beginning stages. It's not required once you have disseminated the information to enough people. The reason anonymous free speech is under attack, is we're JUST under that threshold.
SunnyvaleCA says
What's really changed with the internet age is that the government, the Democratic party, and progressive mob now uses computer algorithms to bulk-gather non-anonymous data to use as a weapon against those they disagree with. The surveillance is more complete than in the past.
We've never had so much surveillance ever in history. If the USSR was still around today, it would be a nightmare for those in the Soviet Bloc.
What's changed with the Internet is that anonymous, free speech IS available, but its under attack. I doubt our government is any more corrupt than it was 30 years ago, but what has certainly changed is people's awareness of it. It was only 30 years ago that if you said "that guy doesn't trust the mainstream media" was code for "that guy is a nut". Our media has always protected corruption to some level, but this is a new level of it.
If this was 1990 today, and Hunter Biden's photographs and business dealings were known, he'd be thrown out of government to maintain legitimacy. Our media would have covered it to maintain their legitimacy. For some, bizarre reason, they think that if they just control Facebook, Google, and Twitter, and the entire establishment press ignores it, that nobody will be aware of it.
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Blue
2022 Apr 28, 9:49pm
HunterTits says
Listen 88.5fm right now, a woman (editor!) newyork-times is almost crying about his cult what they can do etc. almost feel like end of the world movement! They are worried that this is election year and no one can depend on twitter anymore!!??
Listen 88.5fm right now, a woman (editor!) newyork-times is almost crying about his cult what they can do etc. almost feel like end of the world movement! They are worried that this is election year and no one can depend on twitter anymore!!??
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komputodo
2022 Apr 28, 10:01pm
komputodo
2022 Apr 28, 10:01pm
clambo says
When anyone starts talking to me about culture, I usually just blow them off.
A Mexican female was bragging to me about her rich culture
When anyone starts talking to me about culture, I usually just blow them off.
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TheAntiPanicanLearingCenter
2022 Apr 28, 11:08pm
TheAntiPanicanLearingCenter
2022 Apr 28, 11:08pm
SunnyvaleCA says
I'd love one that ignores all blue checkmarks.
Couldn't those wishing for non-anonymous speech could set a filter that ignores all non-"blue checkmark" twits? Seems like a very easy approach.
I'd love one that ignores all blue checkmarks.
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richwicks
2022 Apr 28, 11:40pm
richwicks
2022 Apr 28, 11:40pm
AmericanKulak says
Of course, but the purpose of these sites are to push you in a direction, not allow you to find your own path.
Have you ever noticed you cannot give somebody you're talking with, an email address in a conversation in, say, youtube? That's because now you can talk directly, without over-sight. The purpose of Twitter, Youtube, and Facebook is to SHAPE opinion.
On youtube, if I watch Jimmy Dore, or um, the Lotus Eaters or something - it's not long before Fox News or CNN is the "next video" which I'd NEVER want to see. Youtube knows I don't want to see corporate MSM news, but they still feed it to me. They are trying to shape opinion.
SunnyvaleCA saysCouldn't those wishing for non-anonymous speech could set a filter that ignores all non-"blue checkmark" twits? Seems like a very easy approach.
I'd love one that ignores all blue checkmarks.
Of course, but the purpose of these sites are to push you in a direction, not allow you to find your own path.
Have you ever noticed you cannot give somebody you're talking with, an email address in a conversation in, say, youtube? That's because now you can talk directly, without over-sight. The purpose of Twitter, Youtube, and Facebook is to SHAPE opinion.
On youtube, if I watch Jimmy Dore, or um, the Lotus Eaters or something - it's not long before Fox News or CNN is the "next video" which I'd NEVER want to see. Youtube knows I don't want to see corporate MSM news, but they still feed it to me. They are trying to shape opinion.
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SunnyvaleCA
2022 Apr 29, 1:07am
komputodo says
A better response would be to ask why they don't just move back there.
clambo saysA Mexican female was bragging to me about her rich cultureWhen anyone starts talking to me about culture, I usually just blow them off.
A better response would be to ask why they don't just move back there.
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TheAntiPanicanLearingCenter
2022 Apr 29, 1:57am
TheAntiPanicanLearingCenter
2022 Apr 29, 1:57am
richwicks says
Of course. Just like they took away the ability to close the COVID official misinformation in Youtube.
Rumble gets better and better.
On youtube, if I watch Jimmy Dore, or um, the Lotus Eaters or something - it's not long before Fox News or CNN is the "next video" which I'd NEVER want to see. Youtube knows I don't want to see corporate MSM news, but they still feed it to me. They are trying to shape opinion.
Of course. Just like they took away the ability to close the COVID official misinformation in Youtube.
Rumble gets better and better.
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richwicks
2022 Apr 29, 2:13am
richwicks
2022 Apr 29, 2:13am
AmericanKulak says
I really kind of like Bitchute. It's primitive, it's low-res, it has tons of problems, it's ugly and is filled with people just speaking their mind on a ton of political topics. Some people are wrong, some people are right, most are just mixes, looking for anything is a bitch with their search function, but you can find tons of random crap on it.
Here, I'm watching this now:
original link
It's just people trying to do the right thing. Propagandists don't bother with it yet. It's just people who gave up on the more popular platforms who are like "this is what I think". Takes a bit of time sometimes to find something I want to learn about, but I always do if I spend more than 5 minutes. It's better than youtube EVER was.
Rumble gets better and better.
I really kind of like Bitchute. It's primitive, it's low-res, it has tons of problems, it's ugly and is filled with people just speaking their mind on a ton of political topics. Some people are wrong, some people are right, most are just mixes, looking for anything is a bitch with their search function, but you can find tons of random crap on it.
Here, I'm watching this now:
original link
It's just people trying to do the right thing. Propagandists don't bother with it yet. It's just people who gave up on the more popular platforms who are like "this is what I think". Takes a bit of time sometimes to find something I want to learn about, but I always do if I spend more than 5 minutes. It's better than youtube EVER was.
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TheAntiPanicanLearingCenter
2022 Apr 29, 2:35am
TheAntiPanicanLearingCenter
2022 Apr 29, 2:35am
Quick jumping around your video, see some of the topics.
I assume you know about Trudeau Crony Krista Freeland's family background, and her defeat in trying to stop USMCA.
I assume you know about Trudeau Crony Krista Freeland's family background, and her defeat in trying to stop USMCA.
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richwicks
2022 Apr 29, 2:58am
richwicks
2022 Apr 29, 2:58am
AmericanKulak says
Nope but it might be covered in that video, you can tell me about it. I'll give it a proper listening to tomorrow.
I know the Middle East a lot better than I know anything about Ukraine. My interest all started when I got a subscription to the Washington Report on Middle Eastern Affairs:
https://www.wrmea.org/?source=patrick.net
I was hoping we were done fucking around with Russia. Goddamn sociopaths in power don't care if they start a nuclear war and I didn't realize they were this fucking sick.
Quick jumping around your video, see some of the topics.
I assume you know about Trudeau Crony Krista Freeland's family background, and her defeat in trying to stop USMCA.
Nope but it might be covered in that video, you can tell me about it. I'll give it a proper listening to tomorrow.
I know the Middle East a lot better than I know anything about Ukraine. My interest all started when I got a subscription to the Washington Report on Middle Eastern Affairs:
https://www.wrmea.org/?source=patrick.net
I was hoping we were done fucking around with Russia. Goddamn sociopaths in power don't care if they start a nuclear war and I didn't realize they were this fucking sick.
There is a lot of fear and worry about what Elon Musk will do when he takes control of Twitter. I got to meet Elon almost 26 years ago. At the time, he was studying for a Ph.D. in material engineering at Stanford University. He drove a 20-year-old Jaguar. He lived in a run-down two-bedroom apartment in Palo Alto, California, with his first wife Justine and his brother Kimbal.
I spent 90 minutes talking to him. He is painfully shy and incredibly sensitive. He is obviously quite bright. He is an engineer at heart. I found that he was not mean or cruel. He was not arrogant. He was not overly aggressive.
A long email friendship between Elon and I ensured. It ended with the launch of his first satellite into earth orbit on a Falcon One rocket. I have a framed copy of a Musk email to me right near my workstation.
Over the years I have read a few biographies of Elon and read a lot of articles about him. One sentence would summarize his whole philosophy in life as follows:
"When I die, I want to leave the world a much better place than it was when I was born." Elon's political philosophy is simple. He is neither a Democrat nor a Republican. He is a centrist and a libertarian.
When he takes control of Twitter, get ready for a lot of innovation and fresh new ideas. Yes, free speech will be at the center of his leadership. He will have constraints. He borrowed $44 billion US dollars to finance the purchase. He will have to earn a lot of money with advertising to pay off the debt. He will have to keep the lender happy. If he goes out on the fringes and the platform becomes a vehicle for fake news, propaganda, and extreme politics, he will start to lose money and have a very unhappy lender. He will make mistakes and have missteps. Please give him the benefit of a doubt and keep an open mind.