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2022 Apr 29, 9:29pm   609,474 views  5,735 comments

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https://finance.yahoo.com/news/pimco-kiesel-called-housing-top-160339396.html?source=patrick.net

Bond manager Mark Kiesel sold his California home in 2006, when he presciently predicted the housing bubble would pop. He bought again in 2012, after U.S. prices fell more than 30% and found a floor.

Now, after a record surge in prices, Kiesel says the time to sell is once again at hand.

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731   WookieMan   2022 Sep 4, 11:52am  

mell says

I consider the primary home important.

And that's fine. I believe you've said you have kids though. How often are you actually home? Entertaining? Even just relaxing with the family?

For me with 3 kids it's a trivially stupid little amount of time for the cost when I'm home. As mentioned in the past I like travel. Usually gone 45 days a year. So I piss away almost 2 months of mortgage not using the house. Non-holiday/weekend I'm at the house 2-3 hours, rest is sleeping and showering after ours and the kids activities. Wife is gone 3 months a year. We're just not at our house much. Which I think is good.

And I don't begrudge anyone for wanting a nicer/expensive home in a better climate. I live in IL, so November to March it's a shit show with winter. But I've got Montana, Mexico, Dominican and potentially Germany on the books through March. Might do Miami in October. So you CA guys have an extremely different perspective. Not a bad one, but I'm turning 40 in '23 over the summer. IL born and raised. You have to travel if you're from here or you'll hang yourself.

My sister just checked off HI. So she's done all 50 states. Mexico and Spain international only though. Hawaii and Alaska are my missing states. I'll do Alaska, no interest in HI. But I want to dominate the Caribbean unless what's his nuts here give me a good rate on his condo ("justpassingthrough"?). Mexico, Aruba, Saint Martin, St Thomas, St, John, Curacao, Grand Cayman, Jamaica and Puerto Rico. Pacific side of Mexico I need to explore. Costa Rica was cool and we can get free lodging now, but I'm indifferent. In this hemisphere it's all the Eastern Caribbean islands, Antigua, Barbados, etc. Bermuda out in the Atlantic seems intriguing as well. Relatively easy flights from Chicago. 3-5 hours and you're in a kick ass spot.
732   mell   2022 Sep 4, 11:53am  

B.A.C.A.H. says

WookieMan says


House poor. I get that's probably what most owners here are paying. You sleep in a house, shower, go to work, cook a meal or two and then sleep. Not worth 40% of my income.

I agree with your remark.

But here in the Cool And Hip Bay Area, I am mocked and belittled by self-identified "locals" (mostly folks who moved to here from elsewhere) because "I Don't Get It". "It's Different Here".

Many people now work from home (or from travel/the road), I've been for many years. Makes home much more important and makes you spend the majority of time at home, even though we travel 2-3 months per year easily. We also host quite a bit. If you're young and going to an office and partying eslewhere mostly, it's not that important. Once you hit your 30s or 40s, it becomes center to your life.
733   mell   2022 Sep 4, 11:57am  

WookieMan says


mell says


I consider the primary home important.

And that's fine. I believe you've said you have kids though. How often are you actually home? Entertaining? Even just relaxing with the family?

For me with 3 kids it's a trivially stupid little amount of time for the cost when I'm home. As mentioned in the past I like travel. Usually gone 45 days a year. So I piss away almost 2 months of mortgage not using the house. Non-holiday/weekend I'm at the house 2-3 hours, rest is sleeping and showering after ours and the kids activities. Wife is gone 3 months a year. We're just not at our house much. Which I think is good.

And I don't begrudge anyone for wanting a nicer/expensive home in a better climate. I live in IL, so November to March it's a shit show with winter. But I've got Montana, Mexico, Dominican and potentially Germany on the books through March. Might do Mi...


It's true that if you travel a lot you may want to rethink a big luxury mansion that's mostly empty. Also if kids are older it's not that important as they will be gone more and more. Also it should never be a status symbol. Young single tech hipsters buying million dollar homes in SF never made sense. No reason to own until you start a family or are getting ready to.
735   Eman   2022 Sep 4, 9:55pm  

ZipperTits says

Eman says



Can you share the link(s) where the bank called the loan due on Blackrock and Zillow?


Can you learn to read first?


Nah…, you keep speculating. Zillow started to liquidate their “flip” real estate portfolio late last year when 30-year fixed mortgage was sub 3%. Real estate prices didn’t collapse late last year for any bank/lender to call the loans due. That’s fine. Keep believing what you want to believe.
736   Eman   2022 Sep 4, 10:10pm  

Booger says




Saw this a few days ago. If this is not racist, what is? Why only blacks and Hispanics and not other races?

Not sure who is behind this idea and is pushing this through…..again, but underwriting will likely be much more stringent now compared to the last housing crash. Not many will qualify IMO.
737   Ceffer   2022 Sep 4, 10:31pm  

Buy back the minority votes with more free shit bullshit. Again, it demonstrates the AI of the Globalists projects (there are so few of them they have to use AI to program their decisions) their utter, toxic contempt and hatred for the population. The old political fishing lures and lies have to be dragged out. Doesn't seem it's quite working like it used to.
739   GNL   2022 Sep 5, 7:39am  

Eman says

ZipperTits says


Eman says




Can you share the link(s) where the bank called the loan due on Blackrock and Zillow?


Can you learn to read first?



Nah…, you keep speculating. Zillow started to liquidate their “flip” real estate portfolio late last year when 30-year fixed mortgage was sub 3%. Real estate prices didn’t collapse late last year for any bank/lender to call the loans due. That’s fine. Keep believing what you want to believe.

Maybe it's because they forecast higher rates were on the way?
740   Onvacation   2022 Sep 5, 10:36am  

Eman says

If this is not racist, what is? Why only blacks and Hispanics and not other races?

No DNA required. If you have a pulse and are interested in buying at the top Bank of America wants you!
741   Blue   2022 Sep 5, 11:03am  

Based on calling races, BOA is part of the direct political campaign for left. Statistically zero applicants qualify with empty pockets unless crazy Biden and state throwing cash at them under so many programs like housekeys.org etc. The more I look, this country is turning into the h* I left.
745   BayArea   2022 Sep 6, 7:53am  

zzyzzx says




What’s the source?
746   Patrick   2022 Sep 6, 2:56pm  

https://thepricklypear.org/the-most-splendid-housing-bubbles-in-america-august-update-first-price-drops-appear-all-in-the-west/


The Case-Shiller index, which lags reality on the ground by 4-6 months, is starting to pick up the price drops in Seattle, San Francisco, San Diego, Los Angeles, Denver, and Portland.
747   WookieMan   2022 Sep 6, 3:04pm  

BayArea says

What’s the source?

Source matters, but it's more about home ownership percentage for this stat. If people that can afford to buy are buying and can afford the mortgage, it's really not a big deal. If you cannot afford a price, you won't get a loan. I don't see 2006 happening. We're not back into the "if you have a pulse here's a loan" mode.

Something is happening, but not with housing in my opinion. It will influence housing, but not as dramatic. I personally cannot speculate what IT is though. No one is working or wants to work and employment numbers are still relatively decent and inflation doesn't happen without lots of money flowing around. It's strange.
749   Eman   2022 Sep 6, 10:00pm  

GNL says


Eman says


ZipperTits says


Eman says


Can you share the link(s) where the bank called the loan due on Blackrock and Zillow?


Can you learn to read first?



Nah…, you keep speculating. Zillow started to liquidate their “flip” real estate portfolio late last year when 30-year fixed mortgage was sub 3%. Real estate prices didn’t collapse late last year for any bank/lender to call the loans due. That’s fine. Keep believing what you want to believe.


Maybe it's because they forecast higher rates were on the way?



Not according to my knowledge. J Powell was still pitching “inflation is transitory” late last year. Interest rates didn’t tick up until April of this year. I was in the midst of refinance a couple buildings in January. We locked 3.15% in January, but didn’t close until April. By then, rates were in the 4%ish….

We were also in the midst of flipping this property. Due to the higher interest rate, we feel the offers came in a little lighter than expected. Paid $1.075M. Sold for $1.75M. It should have hit the market in March if it wasn’t due to permit delay.

https://redf.in/H28A6Z
751   Ceffer   2022 Sep 7, 9:06am  

Mise fiat equities are gefuckt!
752   Booger   2022 Sep 7, 9:09am  

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/09/06/us-bonds-treasury-yields-in-focus-amid-economic-data-auctions.html

The yield on the benchmark 10-year Treasury note hit a daily high of 3.353%, adding roughly 16 basis points before settling around 3.347% for its highest close since mid-June. The yield on the 30-year Treasury bond gained more than 14 basis points to 3.493%, hitting its highest close since 2014.
755   Booger   2022 Sep 8, 8:50am  

Check out these price cuts:

757   Eric Holder   2022 Sep 8, 1:04pm  

Booger says

Check out these price cuts:




From $6M sold in 2018 to $48M asking today? Pie-in-the sky bullshit asking price.
758   1337irr   2022 Sep 8, 1:06pm  

Eric Holder says

Booger says


Check out these price cuts:




From $6M sold in 2018 to $48M asking today? Pie-in-the sky bullshit asking price.

I should squat there and own it :)
759   Eric Holder   2022 Sep 8, 1:33pm  

1337irr says

Eric Holder says


Booger says



Check out these price cuts:




From $6M sold in 2018 to $48M asking today? Pie-in-the sky bullshit asking price.


I should squat there and own it :)


The upkeep would be a bitch though.
760   GNL   2022 Sep 8, 2:10pm  

Eric Holder says

Booger says


Check out these price cuts:




From $6M sold in 2018 to $48M asking today? Pie-in-the sky bullshit asking price.

It was either a 6 million dollar tear down or a vacant lot to begin with.
761   RWSGFY   2022 Sep 8, 2:46pm  

GNL says

Eric Holder says


Booger says



Check out these price cuts:




From $6M sold in 2018 to $48M asking today? Pie-in-the sky bullshit asking price.


It was either a 6 million dollar tear down or a vacant lot to begin with.


Really? Looks nice in the pics.
762   GNL   2022 Sep 8, 6:49pm  

RWSGFY says

From $6M sold in 2018 to $48M asking today? Pie-in-the sky bullshit asking price.

It was either a 6 million dollar tear down or a vacant lot to begin with.

Really? Looks nice in the pics.

The description says new construction.
766   Booger   2022 Sep 8, 7:58pm  

Open door losing money again:

767   AmericanKulak   2022 Sep 8, 8:22pm  

Booger says



Bank of Asmodeus is doing a great job recasting these with some "Equity" branding as "Loans for Minorities"
770   Eman   2022 Sep 11, 12:11am  

Booger says




Looking at the letter, it looks like the lender wants the buyer to have 25% down (max 75% LTV) plus reserves. Not sure how many months or years of reserve is require. Not a walk in the park to qualify like the old days, but definitely some loosening in lending standards. More power to both parties if they can make it work.

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