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2022 Apr 29, 9:29pm   854,289 views  7,376 comments

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https://finance.yahoo.com/news/pimco-kiesel-called-housing-top-160339396.html?source=patrick.net

Bond manager Mark Kiesel sold his California home in 2006, when he presciently predicted the housing bubble would pop. He bought again in 2012, after U.S. prices fell more than 30% and found a floor.

Now, after a record surge in prices, Kiesel says the time to sell is once again at hand.

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7370   Patrick   2026 Jan 21, 8:48am  

https://ground.news/article/home-sellers-outnumber-buyers-by-widest-margin-on-record-redfin-says


Last month, Redfin estimated home sellers outnumbered buyers by 47%, roughly 631,000, marking the largest gap since 2013 based on national listings and buyer data.

Redfin found active buyers fell to the lowest level in 12 years last month as homebuyers pulled back due to high prices, mortgage rates, layoffs and uncertainty, while supply rose in Sun Belt pandemic boomtowns and sellers who bought near the market peak delayed resetting expectations.

Among Sun Belt metros, Austin recorded 17,259 sellers and 7,555 buyers, a 128.4% surplus, the widest gap among top markets.
7371   MolotovCocktail   2026 Jan 21, 9:11am  

Patrick says

https://ground.news/article/home-sellers-outnumber-buyers-by-widest-margin-on-record-redfin-says



Last month, Redfin estimated home sellers outnumbered buyers by 47%, roughly 631,000, marking the largest gap since 2013 based on national listings and buyer data.

Redfin found active buyers fell to the lowest level in 12 years last month as homebuyers pulled back due to high prices, mortgage rates, layoffs and uncertainty, while supply rose in Sun Belt pandemic boomtowns and sellers who bought near the market peak delayed resetting expectations.

Among Sun Belt metros, Austin recorded 17,259 sellers and 7,555 buyers, a 128.4% surplus, the widest gap among top markets.




7372   TheAntiPanicanLearingCenter   2026 Jan 21, 12:03pm  

Sellers and Homeloaners: The rates, the rates, cut the rates!

Buyers: The price, the price, damn the rates, cut the price!

We already know about why the buyers are staying away. The rents are dropping in many markets from Colorado to Texas to Florida, so goodbye investors. The people actually in a position to buy a house think they're overvalued, not that the rates are too high.

The huffy "Oh yeah, well I'm delisting and coming back in May, then we'll see what you buyers say!" isn't going to work.

If housing is so scarce, sellers, you should have no problem getting rent ;)

Millions of new multifamilies were built in the last 10 years and many of them have serious vacancy problems. Builders are offering incentives that make buying new a no-brainer over buying used and abused.
7373   HeadSet   2026 Jan 21, 12:52pm  

MolotovCocktail says



Lower principle beats lower rate, which is what will happen when prices fall.
7374   AD   2026 Jan 21, 1:40pm  

HeadSet says

Lower principle beats lower rate, which is what will happen when prices fall.


Townhomes on east end of Panama City Beach are clearly selling at early 2021 price levels or about 20% below all time high set in 2022.

How much do you see the median USA home price falling from its ~2022 high if the 30 yr conventional mortgage rate steadies between 5.75% and 6.25% ?
7375   stereotomy   2026 Jan 21, 1:46pm  

TheAntiPanicanLearingCenter says

Sellers and Homeloaners: The rates, the rates, cut the rates!

Buyers: The price, the price, damn the rates, cut the price!

We already know about why the buyers are staying away. The rents are dropping in many markets from Colorado to Texas to Florida, so goodbye investors. The people actually in a position to buy a house think they're overvalued, not that the rates are too high.

The huffy "Oh yeah, well I'm delisting and coming back in May, then we'll see what you buyers say!" isn't going to work.

If housing is so scarce, sellers, you should have no problem getting rent ;)

Millions of new multifamilies were built in the last 10 years and many of them have serious vacancy problems. Builders are offering incentives that make buying new a no-brainer over buying used and abused.

^^^ This

Multifamily housing is overbuilt and overpriced and will be the yawning chasm of financial doom going forward. The paper behind this (CLO's) is as toxic as the CDO's leading up to the housing bust back in 2008.
7376   MolotovCocktail   2026 Jan 21, 1:56pm  

stereotomy says

Multifamily housing is overbuilt and overpriced and will be the yawning chasm of financial doom going forward. The paper behind this (CLO's) is as toxic as the CDO's leading up to the housing bust back in 2008.


This is also why a lot of multifamily also still charge $2,500/mo BUT are giving off 5-6 months free. They can't reduce the rental price as it show ls on their books because that in turn fucks with their financing.

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