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zzyzzx
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2022 May 6, 6:09am
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2022 May 6, 6:09am
DooDahMan says
I have no idea how much evaporates, but there is plenty of water in the east that can be pumped over. If in pipes evaporation is most likely not an issue.
Booger saysIt amazes me how much water is let go back into the ocean in places where water is scarce.
Calculate the evaporation loss from all of the dams in the west as well as from The California Aqueduct
As for the water going back into the ocean it is/was part of a natural cycle that existed long before humans altered the system to suit their own needs. Nature has a way of leveling the playing field sooner or later - some things are best left alone.
I have no idea how much evaporates, but there is plenty of water in the east that can be pumped over. If in pipes evaporation is most likely not an issue.
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RWSGFY
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2022 May 6, 9:24am
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2022 May 6, 9:24am
zzyzzx says
Why? California is empty. Even fucking SFBA is practically empty as anybody who took a tour of the area in a small plane and seen wast empty spaces already knows.
DooDahMan saysStop expanding cities and suburbs in historical desert environments - that works even better.
The impression that I get from California is that they really do need to build high rises. They just need to anchor them to bedrock so that they don't lean over.
Why? California is empty. Even fucking SFBA is practically empty as anybody who took a tour of the area in a small plane and seen wast empty spaces already knows.
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2022 May 6, 10:06am
DooDahMan says
We’re already paying taxes out the ass to the fucked up CA state Government. With a newly revised excess revenue projection of 63 Billion Dollars all of that revenue, if not given back to the taxpayers, should be used for Desal plants coupled to getting SONGs updated/modified to back up and running and expanding Diablo Canyon expanded to the 6 reactors the original plan had in it.
The fucksticks at the state capital have instead decided to allocate 21 billion to climate change, 3.5 billion to ocean level rise mitigation, and 18 billion to transportation (read the bullshit bullet train to nowhere.)
There is plenty of money to be had, but not enough throwing the idiotic bastards in the legislature OUT going on.
Onvacation saysCalifornia needs desalination plants connected to new nuke power plants to service our population.
Sounds great - now convince the public how they will pay for it because the public will pay for it one wat or another and it won't be cheap. Everyone wants this stuff but no one wants to pay for it, better those costs are borne by the other guy.
We’re already paying taxes out the ass to the fucked up CA state Government. With a newly revised excess revenue projection of 63 Billion Dollars all of that revenue, if not given back to the taxpayers, should be used for Desal plants coupled to getting SONGs updated/modified to back up and running and expanding Diablo Canyon expanded to the 6 reactors the original plan had in it.
The fucksticks at the state capital have instead decided to allocate 21 billion to climate change, 3.5 billion to ocean level rise mitigation, and 18 billion to transportation (read the bullshit bullet train to nowhere.)
There is plenty of money to be had, but not enough throwing the idiotic bastards in the legislature OUT going on.
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zzyzzx
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2022 May 6, 10:18am
zzyzzx
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2022 May 6, 10:18am
RWSGFY says
I was told that the vast empty space that I was was along the San Andreas fault.
Even fucking SFBA is practically empty as anybody who took a tour of the area in a small plane and seen wast empty spaces already knows.
I was told that the vast empty space that I was was along the San Andreas fault.
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TheAntiPanicanLearingCenter
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2022 May 6, 11:04am
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2022 May 6, 11:04am
zzyzzx says
This. I've never seen such sprawl where there should be at least 4-6 story buildings, as in SFBA. LA, too.
The area around Disneyland is all SFH and duplexes?!?!
DooDahMan saysStop expanding cities and suburbs in historical desert environments - that works even better.
The impression that I get from California is that they really do need to build high rises. They just need to anchor them to bedrock so that they don't lean over.
This. I've never seen such sprawl where there should be at least 4-6 story buildings, as in SFBA. LA, too.
The area around Disneyland is all SFH and duplexes?!?!
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RWSGFY
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2022 May 6, 11:10am
RWSGFY
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2022 May 6, 11:10am
AmericanKulak says
I lived in a highrise appt in a big city for almost half of my life. Never again. Give me a SFH with a decent-sized backyard or give me death.
zzyzzx says
DooDahMan saysStop expanding cities and suburbs in historical desert environments - that works even better.
The impression that I get from California is that they really do need to build high rises. They just need to anchor them to bedrock so that they don't lean over.
This. I've never seen such sprawl where there should be at least 4-6 story buildings, as in SFBA. LA, too.
The area around Disneyland is all SFH and duplexes?!?!
I lived in a highrise appt in a big city for almost half of my life. Never again. Give me a SFH with a decent-sized backyard or give me death.
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TheAntiPanicanLearingCenter
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2022 May 6, 11:19am
TheAntiPanicanLearingCenter
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2022 May 6, 11:19am
RWSGFY says
As long as the zoning laws allow land owners to build up within a few miles from downtown, do your thing.
I lived in a highrise appt in a big city for almost half of my life. Never again. Give me a SFH with a decent-sized backyard or give me death.
As long as the zoning laws allow land owners to build up within a few miles from downtown, do your thing.
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If you live in Santiago now, you are experiencing a drought. If you live in my beloved Cape Town, you survived a very bad drought some years ago where reservoirs dried up almost completely. Local residents and companies showed incredible ingenuity and initiative. Small and cost-effective desalinization plants were brought online. Even with spotty electricity delivery from Eskom, these plants saved the day for many residents.
Israel is the world leader in desalinization systems that turn seawater into drinking water.
There is one huge problem with turning seawater into drinking water. Massive amounts of electricity are required. This makes water from the sea much more expensive. The Rolls Royce Jet Engine Company and Microsoft founder Bill Gates have come to the rescue.
Rolls Royce started to build ultra-small nuclear reactors for spacecraft doing deep space missions. As you can imagine such reactors are exposed to wild temperature extremes and bombardment with all sorts of unpleasant radiation. They must be tough and dependable. They must be 100% safe. Imagine the uproar if a spacecraft crashed to earth and released dangerous nuclear materials.
Bill Gates has developed similar nuclear reactors. These could be used to provide more cost-effective electric power for desalination plants.
I sat in on a Zoom meeting with Bill Gates where he talked in-depth about his reactors. I suspect that they would be approved by some very hard-nosed environmentalists.