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Eric Holder says

How would a tenant ruin a water heater?

They fuck with it. Your average tenant to be honest has no clue about mechanical items in a house/condo/apartment. They just rent and assume they can fuck with stuff and you'll fix it if they break it.

I can't count on any of my digits the amount of morons that heated their apartment with the stove and oven in Chicago. The furnace was 100% working. In all honesty too many women grew up as a child without a father. They can't figure shit out. Tread lightly with this question, but ask if their dad is alive. Male or female. If there's no dad in their life, I'd be cautious. Again, male or female.

I've learned from my own wife, that once the dad passes away or he is MIA, there's a 80-90% chance you end up with a bad tenant. Widowed women are awful when it comes to leading. They need a spouse or at least a dedicated boyfriend. Illegal and I don't hold my license anymore, but don't rent to gays either if you can. There will be drama.

I'd only get back to commercial/industrial real estate in the future. It's a business deal and not emotional for anyone one.

WookieMan says

Eric Holder says

How would a tenant ruin a water heater?

They fuck with it

But how? The only control is "hotter-colder", that's it. Turning that wheel shouldn't damage anything, because it's a SOP.

Got a few stories from friends and neighbors who rented property out... some of those stories are insane. Moral of the story for me been "screen your tenants well", dont rent to gays or people who look like they are fucking losers and won't pay.

One family had a tenant who refused to pay rent after a while. Then that same deadbeat loser tenant broke a window in his own car and claimed many of his imaginary construction tools were stolen and asked if landlord had insurance to cover his losses. (sign of deadbeat right there).

Another got a few faggots (yes faggot couple) as tenants... they destroyed property with weird gay shit and stopped paying rent till eviction. I can't even tell you how disgusting stuff was that they did to the walls and garage. Some sick shit, those people are fucking sick in the head.

Another one was the worst, this black single woman with 2 kids, paid first month. Then stopped paying rent after that, threatening lawsuits for discrimination. I think that eviction was very long since the landlord just didn't know what to do and did dumbest thing by trying to smooth things over via conversation and she just kept on not paying.

Those are just a few top stories I remember.

FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut says

Another one was the worst, this black single woman with 2 kids, paid first month. Then stopped paying rent after that, threatening lawsuits for discrimination. I think that eviction was very long since the landlord just didn't know what to do and did dumbest thing by trying to smooth things over via conversation and she just kept on not paying.

Happened in my mom's building. Some 50 something fat Government Employee Black Woman stopped paying after first month, accused all her neighbors including my 70-sometihng mom and her 90-year old Cuban Great Grandmother neighbor - of making noise at 3AM when both are long since passed out. Oh, and the divorced single 50 something old Dentist who works on Travel Contract 3 weeks of every month and isn't even there. She also wanted them not to open the patio/balcony door at 10AM because she "Worked from home and was too loud". This building is Concrete and Steel, and 2 of the 3 apartments have laminated floors with soundproofing, the other has thick carpet.

When she didn't get her way with the association, she started the "I'm gonna sue" shit, and tried to get another (Black) Woman to say the same shit.

Scary fact: Some Senior Housing units in Broward have to have 20% Section 8 units. Naturally, those 20% create 90% of the problems.

Many of them also sneak their adult children with young children into the complex, which is supposed to be 55+ and only 18+ children for OWNERS who are supposed to register them with the Complex, obviously Broward Coward Dems Gov don't care. So you get some 30-year old skank and her OG Brood living with her 50-something parents in a two bedroom (4, 5 people) that is reduced rent from the Broward taxpayer, filling up all the guest parking.

Eric Holder says

WookieMan says

Eric Holder says

How would a tenant ruin a water heater?

They fuck with it

But how? The only control is "hotter-colder", that's it. Turning that wheel shouldn't damage anything, because it's a SOP.

They use the pilot light to light their crack pipe 'cause their bic lighter died.

Eric Holder says

But how? The only control is "hotter-colder", that's it. Turning that wheel shouldn't damage anything, because it's a SOP.

There are plenty of ways to fuck up a water heater. I get your sentiment, but tenants are fucking retards. They shouldn't touch the fucking thing but they will. Ends up fucked up 9 out of 10 times. Even a temp change. Lock that fucker in a keyed closet. I'd rather have the thing blow up before letting a tenant touch the damn thing on their own.

WookieMan says

There are plenty of ways to fuck up a water heater.

Where I live in California many (most?) water heaters are in the garage.

Someone backed a vehicle into the water heater when parking in the garage of my friend's rental. Some stuff around the gas valve got bent and had to be replaced. Luckily nothing sheared off.

Robert Sproul says

Clambo, I am thinking of running down to Baja for a few weeks when Smoke and Fire Season comes to Cali this year, got any tips?

What kind of info were you interested in? One tip, if you plan to stay for a while, exchange for pesos. Even if you're just using your ATM card to take money out at a Mexican bank, the fee's you incur(and you will get a fee from both banks), are still gonna be less than what you'll lose paying dollars everywhere.

So bad tenant story. I had a friend who got married, and his wife decided to rent out her old apartment. She rented to someone on Section 8, and they sub-let the garage, and smoked crack all the time. I think she had to get the police involved more than once, and of course had to evict them. Nightmare.

Bad landlord story. Had an owner who tried to charge us for repainting the hallway when we had only been there a year. When they refused to back down, took them to small claims. The judge asked for proof of work done, and the lady said she had traded having the new tenant paint for buying them a new vanity in the bathroom(the old one was fine). Judge asked for receipt for the vanity, she didn't have it. Then the judge asked me if I wanted to dispute any of the other charges. I knew they were legit damage from us, so I said no, but sounds like I had the floor to take it all back. Lady stormed out claiming she would appeal. Few weeks later, got my check. And yes, I had to hire a process server, after they refused certified mail(or whatever requires a signature).

Bad tenant and bad landlord story. Another small property owner rented us a unit near the beach. Most of the trash cans were in back, but the tenant next to us kept a recycle in the front. I was not aware she considered this "her" trashcan. As we moved in I threw my boxes in that trash since it was right by our unit. One night she asks me to take the boxes out, and I of course said no. She went nutz and threw the boxes out. After that she started smoking in the unit. I Informed management since it's a lease violation. They said she was a problem tenant who would threaten them with lawsuits, so they didn't want to deal with her. She would also knock on the shared wall when the TV was too loud. I would just laugh and keep watching. The smoking got bad though, so we told the landlord we were moving, and she let us out of our lease without penalty, but refused to cover our moving expenses. Before leaving I also blasted my stereo right against her wall for like an hour, and kept deflating her car tires by putting b-b's in the cap, then removing them when they went flat. That really pissed her off and she made some kind of handprint on my car. It was a piece of shit, so I really didn't care. The day we left I dumped a small container of different disgusting substance's I'd been fermenting into her porch area.

NuttBoxer says

I dumped a small container of different disgusting substance's I'd been fermenting into her porch area.

Remind me not to piss you off!

I rented to a gay couple once

Boy did they make a lot of nit-picky calls on things.

Also, at lease renewal time they would always remind me of how much rent they paid in the year and used that as reason why each year they should get something like new appliances or carpet.

Fuck you

Hircus says

Was it worn out? I'm thinking maybe they saw teflon chips, and decided to break it to force replacement for the sake of future users.

No, it was the 6inch or so pan so nearly new, rarely if ever used. Also, I replace the pans at least once per year but often more frequently. One of the first things I do when I get off the plane is go buy frying pans.

BayArea says

I rented to a gay couple once

Boy did they make a lot of nit-picky calls on things.

Also, at lease renewal time they would always remind me of how much rent they paid in the year and used that as reason why each year they should get something like new appliances or carpet.

Fuck you

I would have guessed that gays would make good tenants because they didn't have kids wrecking the place.

B.A.C.A.H. says

Where I live in California many (most?) water heaters are in the garage.

Being in the Northeast, the concept of a water heater not in a basement is foreign to me.

Onvacation says

They use the pilot light to light their crack pipe 'cause their bic lighter died.

That is what the stove is for.

Booger says

BayArea says

I rented to a gay couple once

Boy did they make a lot of nit-picky calls on things.

Also, at lease renewal time they would always remind me of how much rent they paid in the year and used that as reason why each year they should get something like new appliances or carpet.

Fuck you

I would have guessed that gays would make good tenants because they didn't have kids wrecking the place.

it really depends. the couple a friend of mine rented to were fucking insane. they did weird sexual shit. they drew all kinds of sick shit on the walls, made a hole in one that looked like for a very unique purpose. they did a lot of drugs too, so house had a smell to it. some people are fucking sick. not your average homos I guess.

FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut says

the couple a friend of mine rented to were fucking insane

During college I had a gay roommate. I didn't realize he was gay till I'd lived there nearly a year. Because, I suppose, I was (am) a social retard. This was in the mid-1980's, in Silicon Valley (SF Bay Area) when AIDs was becoming a huge crisis. Rock Hudson, etc.

I did not think he was gay. He owned a huge home in the foothills of the Valley, with a "Valley View". He said that in the divorce agreement with his wife, he kept the house but needed to rent out the four spare bedrooms to be able to afford to keep the place. The story about the ex-wife was not just a "story", - I met her a few times as it was an amicable divorce. The thought of him being gay never crossed my mind.

But lots of weird sh*t going on, all the time. Me and two of the other roommates all sort of figured it out around the same time, after a Wild Halloween Party. We sort of panicked and moved out once we figured it out, because during that time it was still not known how AIDs is transmitted.

Booger says

B.A.C.A.H. says

Where I live in California many (most?) water heaters are in the garage.

Being in the Northeast, the concept of a water heater not in a basement is foreign to me.

Being in California the concept of a basement is foreign to me. =))

Hircus says

FJB says

Short term maui vacation rental: Someone bent one of my frying pans into the shape of a taco. They did a great job too! It was very symmetrical with no dents, paint chips etc.

Was it worn out? I'm thinking maybe they saw teflon chips, and decided to break it to force replacement for the sake of future users.

yeah im sure that was the reason because in your world, tenants are always worried about the future health and safety of the next tenant

FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut says

those people are fucking sick in the head.

The wouldn't be homos if they weren't.

AmericanKulak says

Some 50 something fat Government Employee Black Woman stopped paying after first month, accused all her neighbors including my 70-sometihng mom and her 90-year old Cuban Great Grandmother neighbor - of making noise at 3AM when both are long since passed out. Oh, and the divorced single 50 something old Dentist who works on Travel Contract 3 weeks of every month and isn't even there. She also wanted them not to open the patio/balcony door at 10AM because she "Worked from home and was too loud". This building is Concrete and Steel, and 2 of the 3 apartments have laminated floors with soundproofing, the other has thick carpet.

Happened to me when I was living in a concrete appt building in a big city: one day a grumpy woman shows up at my dor claiming that she lives below me and can't sleep because my 50 lbs dog makes too much noise by running around all night. Weird thing is: the fucking cunt isn't even my downstairs neighbor - she fucking lived in the apartment located diagonally from mine, i.e. no shared floor/ceiling at all.

komputodo says

Hircus says

FJB says

Short term maui vacation rental: Someone bent one of my frying pans into the shape of a taco. They did a great job too! It was very symmetrical with no dents, paint chips etc.

Was it worn out? I'm thinking maybe they saw teflon chips, and decided to break it to force replacement for the sake of future users.

yeah im sure that was the reason because in your world, tenants are always worried about the future health and safety of the next tenant

I knew a girl who used to destroy her moms cookware when she visited because she would otherwise keep it too long past the point where they started flaking badly. I also heard her tell other people to watch out for flaking when we were a guest and they were cooking for us.

Some people care. I guess the possibility of that is just beyond you.

The one thing I know about health, is no one wants to hear my fucking advise,no matter how good it is. Maybe in the case of family you can argue for destroying pans, but where does it end? When you smash their radiation emitting smartphone? When you throw ALL their food in the garbage because it's full of pesticides and GMO's...

Amazing that people go through their entire lives this way, or until some PO'd victim does them in. Life is short, ugly, ethic-less and stupid with tongue lolling temporary gratifications as dangling carrot motivations.

My wife saw an ad in local paper from the 'slip and fall' sue lady in our development in Santa Cruz. In the day, she and her boyfriend traveled across country posing 'slip and fall' lawsuits against shopping malls. The courts must have lifted her ban, because she is advertising for somebody to 'help' her with tasks because she claims to be an invalid. We think she is just looking for somebody else to sue. Somebody will charge in to be a kind, helpful soul and will wind up in court on the business end of one of her extortion suits. She'll probably serve some daft LibbyFuck right. She has social services in her place all the time helping her, anyway, and likely also serving as her drug courier, so she is likely just searching for sources of money.

Yes, she tried suing our development for not having adequate handicapped access but lost. She also tried suing her proximate neighbors for cats wandering around, and had some shill lawyer attempt to declare her yard a 'bird sanctuary'.

NuttBoxer says

but where does it end

Wherever you want it to end? Just because you try to watch out for a someone else one time doesn't meant you suddenly need to adhere to some arbitrary pact of ideological and behavioral consistency.

It's ok to help a stranger and warn or save them from some random thing you perceive to be a hazard or pitfall. In fact it's not uncommon. It doesn't need to be over analyzed, nor does it obligate you to future actions.

Maybe neither of us would destroy frying pans in such a situation, but I do think most people have arbitrary "things" that they care about for whatever reason.

B.A.C.A.H. says

During college I had a gay roommate. I didn't realize he was gay till I'd lived there nearly a year.

Quoted for posterity.

Eric Holder says

Being in California the concept of a basement is foreign to me. =))

You are missing out! I am adding you story to my long list of reasons not to move to California.

zzyzzx says

During college I had a gay roommate. I didn't realize he was gay till I'd lived there nearly a year.

LOL! Nobody 'knew' in MSM that Michael Obama was a man until Joan River committed suicide over it.

zzyzzx says

Eric Holder says

Being in California the concept of a basement is foreign to me. =))

You are missing out! I am adding you story to my long list of reasons not to move to California.

Au contrare, my friend: not having a basement gives me opportunity to point out to my kids, that livinig in my basement as adults IS NOT A FUCKING OPTION for them. :)

It's kind of hard to live in the concrete slab of Mom's crap shack. Of course, a crawl space will do in a pinch, as long as the raccoons don't mind.

Booger says

BayArea says

I rented to a gay couple once

Boy did they make a lot of nit-picky calls on things.

Also, at lease renewal time they would always remind me of how much rent they paid in the year and used that as reason why each year they should get something like new appliances or carpet.

Fuck you

I would have guessed that gays would make good tenants because they didn't have kids wrecking the place.

They were clean, no complaints there.

But boy were they entitled. Listen tenant, I’m not going to replace a perfectly good working washer because you think that you are entitled to a new green water conserving washing machine. That got old.

BayArea says

new green water conserving washing machine. That got old.

Get them a washboard, a tub, and a bar of lye soap, LOL!

Sounds like the classic case of buying without vetting the purchase. Happened to my friend also on one of his first rental property purchases. If you're buying rental property, make sure to vet the existing tenants.

NuttBoxer says

Sounds like the classic case of buying without vetting the purchase. Happened to my friend also on one of his first rental property purchases. If you're buying rental property, make sure to vet the existing tenants.

Buy commercial, preferably cash. NNN lease. No emotion and no responsibility in comparison to residential. I'd never do residential rentals again unless it was the deal of a lifetime. People running a business have drive to not fail. Residential tenants know they can fuck you over and it not be a big deal for them.

https://www.reddit.com/r/RealEstate/comments/1016v2g/dog_peeing_from_upstairs_condo_balcony_toronto/

Dog Peeing from Upstairs Condo Balcony

https://www.reddit.com/r/realestateinvesting/comments/1232kwv/my_battle_with_squatters/

My Battle with Squatters

https://www.reddit.com/r/FluentInFinance/comments/1f77egg/im_a_failed_real_estate_investor_heres_what_i/

I'm a failed Real Estate Investor.

zzyzzx says

https://www.reddit.com/r/realestateinvesting/comments/1232kwv/my_battle_with_squatters/

My Battle with Squatters

For a Democrat state, even Colorado has anti-squatter laws like Florida.

I think Florida recently copied Colorado's law and they threw the book at a recent squatter from New York who thought he could game the system in Bay County, Florida.

I suspect now some criminals coming down from the north realize Florida just passed an anti squatter law: https://sa14.fl.gov/2024/07/26/squatter-sentenced-to-40-years-in-prison/

I think the reason being is all the rich white Democrats who own vacation homes in Aspen, Vail, etc.

Also there are a lot of AirBnB homes in Colorado (just like there are in Florida with the beach condos, etc); so they need these anti squatter laws to protect the vacation home rental industry.

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zzyzzx says

I'm a failed Real Estate Investor.

all about research and due diligence

i agree as far as the other post about checking existing leases and who the tenants are as well as verifying the financial docs that the seller provides

hire a good building inspector to check from foundation to the top of the roof including condition of utilities like water and sewer lines, storm water issues now and potentially in the future, etc

as well as what is next to the real property such as undeveloped land that could end up being developed and reduce your property value or make it hard for customers to reach the tenant stores on your property

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