patrick.net

We saw Massie vote to protect Adam Schiff

We listened to his words calling Devin Nunes “deep state” after he uncovered spying on Trump

We saw his vote to stop the border wall

We saw his vote to certify election fraud on J6

We are awake now

https://x.com/DC_Draino/status/1671271638938300416
Jun 20, 2023

Patrick says

Well yeah, he participates in "Fiscal Conservative Prinsuhpuls at the Worst Times"

A short time later on Tuesday, Rep. Thomas Massie, a hard-right Republican who had teased he might tank the debt ceiling deal struck between Republican Speaker Kevin McCarthy and Democratic President Joe Biden nodded to the self-made drama in the room. “I’m reluctant to disclose how I might vote on this rule because then all the cameras leave,” said Massie, who coyly added that he needed to read the actual rule before he could commit. (Yes, the committee hearing began without a finalized draft, any printed copies of it, or even the actual cost projections.)

Ultimately, the Kentucky Republican voted just before 9 p.m. in support of the deal, sparing McCarthy a defeat on an early procedural vote. Republicans could afford to lose only two votes on the Rules Committee, and Massie stood to have been the third. “With that, the cameras are dismissed,” he said ahead of the roll call vote.
https://time.com/6283635/debt-ceiling-deal-kevin-mccarthy-republicans-chaos/

In the floor vote in mid 2023, Massie would NOT defect, and voted with McCarthy to pass the Debt Ceiling suspension for Biden.

He now refuses to do so for Trump, and since the GAO counts tax cuts as "Spending", putting Trump's ending double jeopardy Soc Sec, O/T, and Tips taxation is now almost impossible.

Massie is NOT stupid. He KNOWS what he is doing.

https://classythomasmassie.substack.com/p/thomas-massie-puts-america-first

Thomas Massie Puts America First

The Republican congressman is right to care more about conservative principles than popularity.

Last week, Rep. Thomas Massie of Kentucky was one of three congressman who refused to vote for Mike Johnson for House Speaker, who was eventually was re-elected.

Johnson had the support of Donald Trump. Many conservatives were absolutely enraged that Massie or any other Republican would dare oppose the President-elect’s pick, who they believe will help implement the new White House’s agenda.

But putting “America first!” is EXACTLY why Massie opposed Johnson.

Too often, Johnson has worked hard to do the opposite.

A few examples.

Johnson Puts Ukraine First

Trump promises an America First agenda when he re-takes office. He has vowed to stop sending billions in U.S. taxpayer dollars to Ukraine.

Simple enough, right?

Johnson has not only been a cheerleader for this spending - giving President Biden and the Democrats what they ask for…

He has even said he would lose his Speaker position over it.

WHAT?!?

Why?

Johnson Voted to Allow the Federal Government to Continue Spying on Americans

President-elect Trump has been outspoken about the federal government spying on citizens - including him!

But in April, when a FISA court renewal was up and some conservatives vocally opposed it precisely because it allowed the surveillance of private citizens without a warrant, Johnson was the deciding vote to preserve the status quo.

Johnson joined the Democrats to kill the warrant requirement.

That vote was anything but America First. It put Americans most basic liberties last.

It did not go unnoticed.

Trump’s opposition to the secret FISA courts - that, again, Johnson singlehandedly saved - is not new.

Congress did “act” on FISA in the Spring, and led by Johnson, it protected the government’s spying powers.

The SPENDING

Then there is the COLOSSAL spending problem that Massie stresses every day. He wears a debt clock lapel pin.

Massie even gave them away as gifts to his fellow members! ...




Taking lone stances on America First principles is nothing new for Massie.

When Congress rushed through a $2 trillion COVID relief package in March 2020, Massie said the bill was too problematic, that countless dollars would go to people who did not need it and that it was another example of how reckless Congress habitually is.

Massie demanded a roll call vote, angering the entirety of both parties, including President Trump, who called for the Kentucky congressman to be kicked out of the GOP.

The bill passed.

And it only took about three weeks for everyone to begin understanding that Massie had been right about the spending and all of Washington had been wrong.

They should have listened to Massie, who is arguably the most America First member of Congress.

AmericanKulak says

We saw Massie vote to protect Adam Schiff

We listened to his words calling Devin Nunes “deep state” after he uncovered spying on Trump

We saw his vote to stop the border wall

We saw his vote to certify election fraud on J6

We are awake now

Catturd doesn't have any nice things to say about Massie.

Maga_Chaos_Monkey says

AmericanKulak says

We saw Massie vote to protect Adam Schiff

We listened to his words calling Devin Nunes “deep state” after he uncovered spying on Trump

We saw his vote to stop the border wall

We saw his vote to certify election fraud on J6

We are awake now

Catturd doesn't have any nice things to say about Massie.

That's the problem though with patnet and most purist movements, they'll always find fault and cannot comprehend that one can be 80% right and 20% wrong or even vice versa without being a compromised globalist tool. Humans are faulty by definition, we know this since star trek, I never expect a politician to score 100/100 points, not even 90 (maybe Ron/Rand Paul come close to that), once again pareto is your friend. An 80% score card is definitely a keeper, if all.of Washington were 80% winners we would not have so many problems. Just think of the last 4 years, brutal... I mean they just stopped short of sending untoxxed people to concentration camps via EO. I'm ok with Massie though he is far from my favorite. Many of those who voted against the border wall wanted congress to do it and not the EO circumvent congress, some of course just pretending these concerns because they are never trumpers, and some may have been sincere with their concerns

mell says

That's the problem though with patnet and most purist movements, they'll always find fault and cannot comprehend that one can be 80% right and 20% wrong or even vice versa without being a compromised globalist tool

Massie knows how to talk about the (relatively tiny) cost of Foreign Aid to get people to think he's based and gives a shit.

Then he clears a debt ceiling suspension out of his committee and votes yes as a gift to Biden in Summer 2023 resulting in TRILLIONS in new spending and expanded government, while he howls on twitter about $10B in aid.

Contrast with Paul who simply voted against almost everything most of the time.

Chip Roy is another fakeass.

I'll watch their votes on Working Tax Cuts and making sure they raise the ceiling for Trump like the did for Biden, since b/c Congress counts tax cuts as "Spending", it requires lifting the Debt Ceiling to pass them.

RINOs are a bigger threat than Democrats, we shouldn't be here today since we had mostly Republican Houses since the mid 90s.

He still seems miles away from romney, cheney, kinzinger etc. And the xiden admin. I'm not sure any president will be able to resolve the runaway debt at this point and we're heading towards a jubilee of sorts with mutual forgiveness between the involved countries

mell says

He still seems miles away from romney, cheney, kinzinger etc. And the xiden admin. I'm not sure any president will be able to resolve the runaway debt at this point and we're heading towards a jubilee of sorts with mutual forgiveness between the involved countries

Again, when the chips are down, he establishments. The debt is the fault of the House.

He can spare me the Muh Fiscul Princuhpuls when he tweets endlessly about a few billion in foreign aid but rubber stamps Biden's Trillion Dollar budget busters both in Committees and on the floor.

Like Eyepatch McCain, he's a pompous turd who likes to bloviate and moan about secret money while taking plenty of his own. Hope Catturd does sue his ass for defamation.

Or as Trump said: "He (Massie) is a 3rd Rate Grandstander"

When the chips are down, Massie is a clown:

Secret decoder ring: Massie called out AIPAC’s influence on all sitting congressmen. Nearly everyone has an aipac guy, he said, who buys lunch, advises on how to vote, etc. Massie wouldn’t play along. He also noted that “Christians for Israel,” a supposed grassroots pressure group, was created by AIPAC to agitate within local churches for Israeli issues. These days, you don’t get more anti-establishment than to question the undue influence of Israel on US policy.

goofus says

Secret decoder ring: Massie called out AIPAC’s influence on all sitting congressmen. Nearly everyone has an aipac guy, he said, who buys lunch, advises on how to vote, etc. Massie wouldn’t play along. He also noted that “Christians for Israel,” a supposed grassroots pressure group, was created by AIPAC to agitate within local churches for Israeli issues. These days, you don’t get more anti-establishment than to question the undue influence of Israel on US policy.

His job is to say "Look at the shiny" while keeping the status quo and voting to lift the debt ceiling for sleepy Joe and voted for a budget buster... way back in... uh, Summer 2023.

https://x.com/semper_vincit/status/1877891181256007744

https://classythomasmassie.substack.com/p/massie-us-backed-terrorist-group

Massie: US-Backed Terrorist Group Running Syria

Who’s The Enemy Now?

Politics is a dirty business. Too often elected officials act like they’re playing a real-life Game of Thrones on the world stage. It’s a game where power trumps morality. That means anything goes as long as the player believes it will help them win. (paywall)

https://x.com/RepThomasMassie/status/1871291949585420542

@RepThomasMassie

A U.S. designated terrorist organization now runs Syria, but it was the U.S. and Israel that brought about the overthrow of the Syrian government.

It’s not a coincidence our agencies did this shortly after Trump won the election and before he took office.

Massie seems to
prefer Iranians and Hezbollah to be still ruling there.

Well, it's better than when he lifted the debt ceiling and allowed Biden's last budget buster to pass his committee AND the floor in summer 2023.

AmericanKulak says

Well, it's better than when he lifted the debt ceiling and allowed Biden's last budget buster to pass his committee AND the floor in summer 2023.

I'd love to hear his reasoning on that.

https://jonfleetwood.substack.com/p/us-rep-thomas-massie-calls-for-fda

U.S. Rep. Thomas Massie Calls for FDA to Revoke Approval of COVID-19 Jabs 'Immediately'

"FDA should immediately revoke approval of these shots," says Kentucky representative. ...

However, fewer than 1% of vaccine adverse events that do occur are ever reported to the CDC in the first place, according to a 2010 analysis submitted by Harvard doctors to the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS).

If that’s correct, then there may have been closer to 3.8 million deaths linked to the COVID injection in the U.S.

“FDA should immediately revoke approval of these shots,” Rep. Massie wrote in the Wednesday morning Twitter/X post.

https://x.com/RepThomasMassie/status/1890186529676447864

https://nitter.poast.org/RepThomasMassie/status/1894383653553127758#m

@RepThomasMassie
3h
When I was County Judge Executive in Lewis County Kentucky, I was responsible for signing the check that paid for every phone landline and cellphone billed to the county.

At first it seemed impossible to ferret out the waste, fraud, and abuse for these phone plans.

How many phones were taxpayers paying for that were defunct? How many were former county employees who were no longer employed but had been able to keep their phone and mooch off the taxpayer? Was any of it fraudulent or inaccurate billing by the service provider?

But then I came up with an idea… I told every county department (Sheriff, Clerk, Road Crew, Jail, etc.) to give me a list of their phones matched to their county employees or offices.

In one month, I would DEACTIVATE EVERY PHONE that wasn’t on one of these lists.

A month went by and only about 80% complied with the directive to list their phones. I gave them one more month and issued a serious warning that their phones would be turned off at the end of the next month.

Finally, I directed the phone company to deactivate all phones that weren’t accounted for. Guess what?

The jailer called me up and said the finger print machine wouldn’t send finger prints to the state police anymore. Ha! That was the only legitimate phone line that I deactivated. We quickly got it reactivated.

I ended up saving our county thousands of dollars on the phone bill, much to the chagrin of the phone company and a few moochers who no longer had free phone plans. I think most of the savings came from phones that just weren’t in service but had been left on the bill.

Why do I tell this story? Because what Elon is doing by asking federal employees to list five things they did in a week is brilliant. Requiring any kind of an affirmative response from a worker will prove whether that worker even exists and can be reached. Don’t forget, the Inspector General for Afghanistan found out we were paying millions for soldiers and police in Afghanistan who didn’t even exist (ghost employees). There’s no telling what Elon’s plan will uncover. We will find some employees can’t use email or aren’t even literate enough to write five things. So everyone take a chill pill and write down your five things to let us know you exist and you can read email and you aren’t completely insubordinate. Then we can clean the roster.

https://nitter.poast.org/Nicksdankmemes3/status/1895993426350653569#m

Massie is great.
Director: You had some fun guns.
Massie: Before the boating accident...
At 56:45 in this video
https://x.com/i/broadcasts/1mrxmPVrlbWJy

Massie and Rand Paul are probably the only uncorrupted members of Congress.

That's why DOGE will fail - there's too much fucking corruption that can only be solved by martial law and arresting all members of Congress except those previously noted. Will the DOJ do that? Fat chance.

Patrick says

https://nitter.poast.org/Nicksdankmemes3/status/1895993426350653569#m

BONK. Massie gave Biden a blank check and a raised debt ceiling, both in a committee vote and on the floor, in Summer 2023.

Don't be shocked if Massie suddenly gets very fiscally conservative when the O/T and Tips tax bill comes up.

Bookmark this one too and mark my words:

AmericanKulak says

When the chips are down, Massie is a clown:

Thomas Massie @RepThomasMassie
Congress just stood up and applauded DOGE for exposed wasteful and fraudulent programs that Congress itself funded… and plans to fund in the coming CR.
9:47 PM · Mar 4, 2025
https://x.com/RepThomasMassie/status/1897116852482138603

No Massie, you're going to give Trump the same consideration you gave Biden's Budget Buster in Summer 2023. When COVID was over and Biden was President for 3 years already.

I see through your Koch Brothers FakeCon bullshit.

He can give Trump a break given he only had a few weeks in office, and fix it in September.

Massie is the Amy Coney Barrett of the House.

Told Ya So

Thomas Massie

@RepThomasMassie
·
40m
Unless I get a lobotomy Monday that causes me to forget what I’ve witnessed the past 12 years, I’ll be a NO on the CR this week.

It amazes me that my colleagues and many of the public fall for the lie that we will fight another day.

Check out my prediction 6 months ago:

https://x.com/RepThomasMassie/status/1898937660984475890

"PrinCuhPuled" not to give Trump more than a few weeks in office to get things together. Koch brother!

AmericanKulak says

Let's see that quote in context.

I bet it's just like the "fine people" hoax.

Republican Rep. Thomas Massie of Kentucky criticized President Donald Trump and blamed him for inciting the riot Wednesday that led to the seize of the Capitol building.

“I think Trump is at fault here,” Massie told The Dispatch. “I watched almost all of his speech. I felt like it was inevitable.”

The Kentucky representative also said Trump, among others, misled his supporters.

“People did mislead the folks that came here, and Trump was among them,” Massie said. “He insinuated that states wanted their electors thrown out, which was not true. I kept a spreadsheet of every document every state produced, and in no case did a majority of any legislature even put their name on the letter.”

Massie told The Cincinnati Enquirer earlier this week he stayed in the Rayburn Office Building with 15 of his staff for about five hours Wednesday while thousands gathered at the National Mall to protest the presidential election results.

The ensuing riot resulted in the deaths of five people, including a woman who was shot and a Capitol Police officer who was injured while on duty.

Massie, who was publicly against the efforts to contest the 2020 election results, also said some of his colleagues believed Trump's claims while others didn't, but they feared the ramifications of not backing the president.

“There were a whole host of my colleagues who were just frankly terrified of the base that Trump had misled. It was much easier to go along than to explain to them that Trump was misleading them,” Massie told The Dispatch.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2021/01/09/rep-thomas-massie-says-trump-is-at-fault-for-deadly-riot/6611721002/
Unfortunately, the Dispatch link which is linked was not archived at archive.is when I went to check; the quote source is behind paywall. However, Massie made similar comments.

Related, here's Massie opining that "Congress has no power" to rectify the 2020 election:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2021/01/03/thomas-massie-congress-has-no-authority-influence-election-outcome/4120557001/

Massie expressing his fear that J6ers would turn violent, so he hid in his office with his gun. Nevermind the timeline of the speech is totally wrong:
Rep. Thomas Massie barricaded office, grabbed his gun after Trump's speech
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2021/01/07/washington-d-c-riots-2020-thomas-massie-recalls-tense-afternoon/6587280002/?gnt-cfr=1&gca-cat=p

Finally, Here's Massie campaigning for DeSantis in NH and mocking Trump trying to call him 3 times, 2024:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FB_oNrA6Wb0

Massie mocks Trump in South Carolina for DeSantis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdoLaihxjWs

Looking forward to seeing Massies Budget Plan since he's had months to draft one and like all Congressmen, an army of Staffers.

Should be great to see his constructive idea to replace the CR, ready to go! Trump was elected in November, he's had 5 months to get something going.

After all, Congress isn't the European Union Parliament which can only vote bills up or down with no drafting power. Hell, bills written by Congressmen sit for years before they get voted on (Patriot Act was written in the 90s)

Trump is now attacking Massie:




Sad, because:

1. Republican infighting strengthens Democrats.
2. I like and trust Massie.
3. He's got some good points:

https://nitter.poast.org/RepThomasMassie

Someone thinks they can control my voting card by threatening my re-election. Guess what? Doesn’t work on me. Three times I’ve had a challenger who tried to be more MAGA than me. None busted 25% because my constituents prefer transparency and principles over blind allegiance.



The military industrial complex demands about $50 billion per year in war. As soon as we quit spending $50b per year in Afghanistan, we started spending $50b per year in Ukraine. Watch where the next $50b per year goes when we stop sending it to Ukraine. The MIC is always hungry.

If it passes this week, the CR obligates Trump (from now until September) to spend the same amounts of money on generally the same things Biden spent money on in his last 15 months in office.

We could pass recisions later to undo some things, but there’s no commitment to do so.

The argument for CR in September 2024 was to fight in December 2024 after the election.
The argument for CR in December 2024 was to fight in March 2025 after the inauguration.
The argument for CR in March 2025 is to fight in September 2025 because… we’re not ready yet ?!?!

I predicted this (see below). The CR is a UNIPARTY deal. It doesn’t fund the wall. It does fund USAID. The democrats depart for a retreat on Wednesday, so they’ve already agreed to provide enough votes to pass the CR. Meanwhile, our election mandate will wane by this coming Sept.