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Maybe wokeness is just a symptom of being in one's 20's:

https://spectatorworld.com/life/my-roaring-thirties/

Patrick says

Maybe wokeness is just a symptom of being in one's 20's:

Yep, folly of youth. It wasn't that long ago that you yourself were an Obama shill.

Wokism that came from nowhere is a short lived mental disease that will disappear and go back to nowhere … thank God I never been an Obama shill but worse than that I was duped to vote for Bush Jr ( I don’t know what I was thinking then but I stopped voting since then … until voting for Trump 2020 and never regretted my vote that ended being stolen)

HeadSet says

Patrick says

Maybe wokeness is just a symptom of being in one's 20's:

Yep, folly of youth. It wasn't that long ago that you yourself were an Obama shill.

Well to defend Patrick here, it was pretty hard to imagine that Obama could be worse than a fucker that lied us into a war over a non existent weapons of mass destruction program.

I just met with an old friend today for lunch, and he's I think 55, Ukraine came up and he actually had the gall to say how horrible it was that Russia was at war at Ukraine. I had to remind him he's never in 20 years complained about any of the wars the US has been in. I was genuinely pissed off with him. It drives me nuts that people will bitch and moan about one country and not bat an eye when our country does it, especially when Americans supposedly has some control over it.

richwicks says

Well to defend Patrick here, it was pretty hard to imagine that Obama could be worse than a fucker that lied us into a war over a non existent weapons of mass destruction program.

It was not a comparison of Obama and Bush. It was Patrick defending Michelle's very high pay no-show hospital job that Michelle acquired when Barak was a state Senator with influence over the hospital's funding. Patrick used the final calendar year of Michelle's "employment" to show her pay was not so high, but that was misleading since she only worked the first 3 months of that calendar year. Patrick was also very pro Elizabeth Warren when she first came on the scene, despite Liz working under TurboTax Timmy. I am not picking on Patrick here, just showing evolution of opinion.

richwicks says

especially when Americans supposedly has some control over it.

Well, there's the rub. US military is supposed to be the murder monkey arm for City of London, Vatican, and Swiss based CIA Corporation and Globalists/bankers. I doubt people in the USA have often been propagandized to approve of many wars since WWII, so you can see their efforts to support Ukraine with the gullible LibbyFuck chumps means Ukraine has special purpose in their corruptions.

HeadSet says

Patrick was also very pro Elizabeth Warren when she first came on the scene, despite Liz working under TurboTax Timmy.

I used to be pro Pocahontas - she had some pretty good speeches against the banks, but it was all theater. Now I'm constantly on guard for fakes. DeSantis might be a fake I feel.

HeadSet says

I am not picking on Patrick here, just showing evolution of opinion.

At least we evolve. I know SOOOOO many people that don't.

Ceffer says

richwicks says

especially when Americans supposedly has some control over it.

Well, there's the rub. US military is supposed to be the murder monkey arm for City of London, Vatican, and Swiss based CIA Corporation and Globalists/bankers. I doubt people in the USA have often been propagandized to approve of many wars since WWII, so you can see their efforts to support Ukraine with the gullible LibbyFuck chumps means Ukraine has special purpose in their corruptions.

I'm just overjoyed that Americans didn't vote for this at all. I'm rather annoyed by people that THINK that they did, but that's it.

My friend thinks "Russia hacked our election" because he knows some Russian woman that claims it's true. I said something rude like "I'd like to meet this broad and have her explain to me how it was done, because we just had the most secure election ever suddenly - what changed?"

He's a normie. Smart guy, but when I disagree with his pre-programmed beliefs, he just thinks I'm stupid. That's basically our relationship. A LONG time ago, he was my boss, and 5 years my senior. Well I'm 50 now. It's funny that I've overtaken so many people in certain areas of intellect and knowledge and you TRY to bring them along, but "you're just a kid or stupid or naive or gullible" or whatever. They can't conceive you know more than they do.

I'll have to watch out for that. Eventually my younger friends will outstrip my intellect in some areas. I need to make a note not to make the same mistake.

HeadSet says

Patrick says

Maybe wokeness is just a symptom of being in one's 20's:

Yep, folly of youth. It wasn't that long ago that you yourself were an Obama shill.

HunterTits says

HeadSet says

Yep, folly of youth. It wasn't that long ago that you yourself were an Obama shill.

That was harsh, @HeadSet. But good. Wish I said that first.

Patrick banned my ass for a number of years when he was on Obamashill mode.

Wow I don't remember that, that actually happened? Must have been offline for a while banging chicks left and right ;)

I now think Obama was just a mediocre president. Not especially evil, just another tool of the WEF types. And mysteriously rich like most Democrats who get into power.

I was indifferent to Obama and didn't really gibbe shit at that time. However, it was intriguing when the rumors of his Chicago gay cocaine trysts came out, and then, of course, the whammy that he was bi/gay, likely pedophile, and had a tranny wife with two fake kids. He was definitely a Manchurian designed to show maximum contempt for the American people by being foisted as something else.

Of course, the rumors say Macron was a child male prostitute and his wife is a tranny who has basically been his intel handler from the time he was young. The Baphomet Satanist inversion specialists have a thing for deceiving with trannies and homos.

Patrick says

I now think Obama was just a mediocre president. Not especially evil, just another tool of the WEF types. And mysteriously rich like most Democrats who get into power.

I supported obummer too in the beginning, esp. after boosh

Ceffer says

I was indifferent to Obama and didn't really gibbe shit at that time. However, it was intriguing when the rumors of his Chicago gay cocaine trysts came out, and then, of course, the whammy that he was bi/gay, likely pedophile,

I don't know if he was bi or a pedophile but rumors swirled in the gay community that he was homosexual with Rahm Emanuel. My cousin is gay, and he's convinced. That was back when homosexuality was still taboo, and within the gay community, there was a lot of (reliable) talk.

I'm rather doubtful that Michelle is a dude, but I wouldn't be surprised at all if it was a marriage of convenience to make Obama "acceptable".

One thing I've learned with my cousin is a lot of rumors he heard, turned out to be true. Homosexuality used to be an underworld, and although people may object to the lifestyle, word of mouth was quite reliable I've seen.

My cousin taught me "gaydar" by simply pointing out men he thought were gay. I used to have 80%+ accuracy for a while. It's like sexing chickens but I'm either out of practice or it's no longer relevant. Gay people used to advertise to find partners, I don't know if they do now. Times have changed a bit in 20 years. Now people are just out, nobody is in the closet.

mell says

Patrick says

I now think Obama was just a mediocre president. Not especially evil, just another tool of the WEF types. And mysteriously rich like most Democrats who get into power.

I supported obummer too in the beginning, esp. after boosh

We replaced shit with shit.

I knew Obozo's voting record in the senate. He voted to fund the Iraq War every single time except when he was running for the democratic nomination. Cliton did the same thing.

Still, I wanted to punish the Republicons. McCain wouldn't have been any better, or worse.

The two assholes we normally get to choose from are identical in any relevant way. In 2024, unless Trump is on the ticket, I expect no difference. I think Trump MAY be different, maybe. He mixed up the salad quite a bit. I enjoyed him.

https://spectatorworld.com/topic/an-american-inquisition/

An American inquisition
Almost 500 years after Galileo, quasi-religious frenzies flow freely once again




The nation is entering a Galilean moment. Public and private authorities stubbornly pursue make-believe about race, ethnic loyalties, families, men and women, and civic adhesion. They deny the limits of nature.

It’s not the first time that human vanity has taken a run at truth and punished those who don’t fall into line.

To avoid prison in 1633, the astronomer and polymath Galileo recanted his defense of Copernicus’s discovery that the earth was not the center of the universe. He spent the rest of his life under house arrest.

“And yet it moves,” Galileo is reputed to have said later, and bitterly, silenced by haughty thought examiners.

Almost five hundred years after Galileo, quasi-religious frenzies flow from identity politics to grant Inquisitors the exclusive right to define “appropriate behavior” and “hate speech,” challenging freedom of conscience and nature itself.

The supernatural proposition that trans men and women are “born with the wrong chromosomes” and suffer this condition because they say so is a concept as false as geocentrism, only more obvious. ...

Nonetheless, tens of millions of Americans of a relatively wide band — in terms of assets, geography, and demography — remain attached to law, work, and respectable behavior. Their instincts keep them in touch with what is.

They contest the solemn impositions of the fantastic and false. “And yet it moves,” they say under their breath, seething at today’s social astrologies. Moreover, Galileo was vindicated — truth wins — and his tormentors were dispatched onto the ash heap of history. The same might happen, if we are fortunate, with our present-day arbiters of allowable thought.

https://www.bobmoran.co.uk/other-work/false-idol-original-artwork

richwicks says

I used to be pro Pocahontas - she had some pretty good speeches against the banks, but it was all theater. Now I'm constantly on guard for fakes. DeSantis might be a fake I feel.

Yep warren used to be decent then sold out - DeSantis is real, no indication of fake so far.

Patrick says

These people were always dreamers/idealists and some were always dumb or asshoes, but for the most part they used to fight actual nazis and authoritarian structures in government. They have been successfully brainwashed by the globalist leftoid agtprop so become letftoid brownshirts, the elite are laughing at these useful idiots who actively promote division and destruction of society and authoritarian oppression of speech and freedoms and objective truths. Their lives have been rendered useless except for being tools of the globalist marxist leftoids, this is more than folly of youth. You could not have convinced an antifa of the 1980s to go disrupt an event claiming that men and womyn are biologically different.

What is sobering is that all three of these dissidents -- James Damore, Dr. Heather Heying, and Dr. Peter Boghossian -- lost their jobs over woke nonsense.

Patrick says

Maybe wokeness is just a symptom of being in one's 20's:

Those are the naïve years where you assume "Real Socialism" hasn't been tried yet.
It's also the time you believe that because of rich people, you don't have any marketable skills. Only they don't call it "Marketable Skills" they call it money.
The Chaz zone alone, dispelled every myth I held as a truth, when I was in my 20's.

Elon Musk: 'Wokeness Is Divisive, Exclusionary, and Hateful'
Madeline Leesman
December 22, 2021 11:15 AM

In an interview this week, Tesla and SpaceX founder Elon Musk said that wokeness “wants to make comedy illegal” and gives “cruel” people a reason to be hateful.

Musk made the remarks in a one hour and forty-minute interview with The Babylon Bee, where he discussed wokeness, Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D), the Metaverse, taxing the rich, and more with CEO Seth Dillon, Editor-In-Chief Kyle Mann, and Creative Director Ethan Nicolle.

“Generally, I think we should be aiming for, like, a positive society, and it should be okay to be humorous,” Musk said in the interview.

“Wokeness basically wants to make comedy illegal, which is not cool. I mean, [Dave] Chappelle? Like, what the f*? I mean, trying to shut down Chappelle? C’mon man. That’s crazy."

“Do we want a humorless society that is simply rife with condemnation and hate, basically?” Musk asked.

“And no forgiveness,” Dillon added.

“Yeah,” Musk nodded in agreement. “At its heart, wokeness is divisive, exclusionary, and hateful. It basically gives mean people a reason – it gives them a shield to be mean and cruel armoured in false virtue.”

https://notthebee.com/article/cate-blanchett-beautifully-destroys-critical-race-theory-and-gender-identity-politics

But in this role, Blanchett hits close to the Christian teaching of intrinsic worth that has shaped Western civilization – the idea that all people have equal inherent value and should be judged on their character, accomplishments, behavior, and skill rather than external features or deterministic outputs.

It is an important lesson: If you can dismiss Bach, Washington, Shakespeare, or Michelangelo simply because they were "cis white males," then you too can be judged on your sexuality, skin tone, and sex.

The woke might want to pay attention, for the generations after them will eat them alive based on their own standards.

https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/is-go-woke-go-broke-driving-go-woke

their entire ethos and praxis has been arranging the world in such a manner that they are the only ones allowed to speak. they take over media, movies, TV, museums, classrooms, and conversation. the bristle with nasty energy always ready to attack anyone voicing disagreement and they censor, cancel, and shout down anyone who dares diverge.

it’s rule by fear.

these people are impossible to work with, unpleasant to work near, and have been driving away customers and co-workers alike.

their movies bomb. their oppressive performative regimes are exhausting.

they add nothing and demand everything.

and seeing them leave is nature healing.

now it’s only government that is still driving wokeward. ...

i'll bet they are alarmed.

their entire ideology relies upon suppressing dissenting views and being the only one talking in order to make itself seem like a legitimate majority when the fact of the matter is that is it neither.

and that's about to become crystal clear.

this whole movement is predicated on no one being allowed to question it. it simply defines its own core salients as “non-interrogatable” and then demands to deconstruct all else in a game of “punch no punchbacks” that is critical to its survival because if there is one thing that woke cannot do, it’s take a punch.

https://notthebee.com/article/the-world-is-far-less-populated-than-you-think-babies

The "empty" farmland feeds those high-density cities. Yes, we could have a billion people in the USA if we live hand to mouth and clustered into shacks, but no way that billion people could have a 1st world lifestyle.

Patrick says

Maybe wokeness is just a symptom of being in one's 20's:

No. Millies are the first generation not to become substantially more conservative with age, and almost all the Woke Grunts are Millies.

HeadSet says

The "empty" farmland feeds those high-density cities. Yes, we could have a billion people in the USA if we live hand to mouth and clustered into shacks, but no way that billion people could have a 1st world lifestyle.

Takes about 2 hectares of land to feed one person is what I've heard. That's about 325 by 325 feet. My sister and husband raise their own cows for meat, seems about right. They require a pretty serious amount of land to graze.

I always hear that you can pack all the population into this tiny amount of land - you could, if you wanted to starve the entire population of the world to death - well, they would survive by cannibalism for a little while... if they could find enough drinking water. There's a reason there aren't herds of bears and deer. Herds develop for protection, but they can eat the most awful vegetation and must be nomadic to survive on it. We can't.

richwicks says

Takes about 2 hectares of land to feed one person is what I've heard.

And that is just for food. Now considered the resource use that heats the house, fuels the car, and powers the circuits.

https://notthebee.com/article/nikole-hannah-jones-tried-to-argue-with-a-survivor-of-maos-cultural-revolution-about-american-exceptionalism-and-it-does-not-go-well-for-her

Depends on the protein source.

You can get a shitton of protein and fat from chickens (the fat from eggs) or tilapia out of small spaces. Goats need a little more, but not high quality (the back acre you don't mow or plant but leave wild with trees and shrubs, also they eat ANYTHING from table scraps to an old leather shoe they found in the backyard). Cows need a lot more.

But with a single meat 1200lb cow, you're getting about 500 pounds of usuable meat (that's including some wasteage, going for 85/15 ground beef, more bone-in cuts, but not eating the head cheese or organs, and not the scores of pounds from bone having marrow reduced into bone broth, etc.). That's 125lb/person for a family of 4, or 9lb for the family each week. All from a single cow and assuming modern sensibilities don't like to eat cow organs.

But meat cows were/are generally raised in either poor soils badly suited for general agriculture, or in feed lots these days. In Cool Temperate Europe and North America, cows and goats generally roamed the wastes/wetlands/forested areas to graze, with the best land reserved for plants, fruit trees, and horses. In Montana with hard scrabble soils and tough prairie grass, 4 acres/cow. In Emerald Ireland or New England, closer to 2.5 - 3 acres per cow due to the lush grass.

EDIT: Or Florida. Cows also scale up well, apparently. Having two 10 acre paddocks and keeping them in rotation can allow as much as 1.5 acres/cow. But 2.5 would be the floor if you're on a small acerage.

Source for Meat - butcher:
https://www.meatchris.com/blog/2012/6/1/how-much-meat-will-i-take-home.html

Sunflower oil averages about 25 gallons of Diesel for minimal input/acre (no irrigation, no artificial fertilizer dosing)
https://farm-energy.extension.org/sunflowers-for-biofuel-production/

My estimate reduces the given numbers since I'm assuming less input and yield than on a dedicated, chemically-driven farm.

I refuse to call plant-based Diesel "Biodiesel" since Rudolph Diesel invented the Diesel engine to burn seed oil in the first place.

But we're talking food self-sufficiency, not total self-sufficiency.

Came across it so I thought I'd put that up.

AmericanKulak says

I refuse to call plant-based Diesel "Biodiesel" since Rudolph Diesel invented the Diesel engine to burn seed oil in the first place.

Plants creating oil is a very inefficient way to collect solar energy.

You're better off using solar panels and breaking down water into hydrogen and oxygen. There are some algaes that are about 1% efficient in energy conversion, but a crappy solar panel is 10%, and breaking down water to hydrogen and oxygen is 50% efficient, and burning that is 33% efficient. Making it more than 3 times more efficient than the best biological process.

Biofuel is a fine idea, if our population was around, say, 5 million people. In a different time, it was viable, and even then, it would have been limited by access to fertilizer. I don't think it's viable in our time, in fact, I know it's not. If we recycled human waste in efficient way, it would perhaps be doable, but then we'd have to deal with salts in the waste. We'd have to have to consume a LOT LESS salt to do it.

richwicks says

Plants creating oil is a very inefficient way to collect solar energy.

Says the guy typing on a computer connected to a power grid that runs off of fossil fuels.

I’d say plants creating oil, and reproducing themselves to produce offspring that make even more oil is basically the foundation of the ecosystem and by extension the only thing keeping humans upright on this earth. When plants stop making oil and carbohydrates you will see how efficient man made power and nutritional sources are.

PeopleUnited says

richwicks says

Plants creating oil is a very inefficient way to collect solar energy.

Says the guy typing on a computer connected to a power grid that runs off of fossil fuels.

Um, yeah? Of course. We have to run off from fossil fuels, currently. We could (and should) move to thorium. We can improve technology to have supplements in solar, and perhaps we can make better storage, but we're not there yet. It's conceivable that if we change our lifestyles enormously, and we could only make use of energy during the day, and have none (or very little) at night.

PeopleUnited says

I’d say plants creating oil, and reproducing themselves to produce offspring that make even more oil is basically the foundation of the ecosystem and by extension the only thing keeping humans upright on this earth. When plants stop making oil and carbohydrates you will see how efficient man made power and nutritional sources are.

Again, if we radically change our lifestyle. No more foods that are out of season, we need to recycle waste efficiently for fertilizer, eliminate a lot of toxic elements in our society. It would require a radical change.

I really think the way forward is stabilization of the population, structures that are built to be VERY long lasting (like 1000 years), reduced need for transportation, smaller communities but a LOT MORE of them. I don't think most people would want to live like that. I am NOT in favor of people owning nothing and being happy, because only 1/2 of that would be the truth. We're being forced into a new feudalism, which was just an early version of fascism.

If markets are allowed to freely operate, that will solve the problem. Thorium reactors will give us a good 1,000 years and that's a LONG TIME to figure out new solutions.

Thorium reactors are a real thing, they are safe, but we've not had an operating one for like 50 years. They are viable, HOWEVER, they don't produce nuclear weaponry, and the DOE is only interesting in making nuclear weapons.

richwicks says

We could (and should) move to thorium

+1 for MSRs powered by throium.

They do produce a miniscule amount of plutonium, but really, the idea that terrorists are going to somehow gather plutonium from multiple MSRs is silly. Also that plutonium is fantastic energy source for satellites and backup for colonies. There's no reason it can't be periodically collected during maintenance and stored somewhere.

Also, much legacy reactor radioactive waste from traditional reactors can be thrown in an MSR a little at a time and get a second 'burn' out of it, which reduces it's half life, provides power, and generally makes the disposal process much more efficient.

There's no meltdown risk with MSRs since the Flouride Salt core would simply cool and solidify, and if it was too hot it the drop in production would be noticable over a while and no sensors could miss it. You could also put a plug over a concrete-steel reservoir under the reactor, so if it got too hot the plug would melt and the Flouride Salt would simply flow into the reservoir and away from the core, stopping the process. Unlike Traditional Reactors that would crack and emit radiated steam all over the area, failed MSRs would just pool a small amount of radioactive fluid into a chamber beneath it, or worse case in a small area immediately around the facility. The material would then very rapidly solidify after losing contact with the core making cleanup a snap.

If anybody is interested in the back story, Thorium/LSR was developed on behalf of the USAF as an idea to have huge, never landing bombers, and traditional reactors by the USN to power large ships without the need to constantly refuel (ie SSNs and CVNs).

https://euphoricrecall.substack.com/p/how-white-liberals-are-driving-wokeness

https://tessa.substack.com/p/wokism

Let us talk about wokism.

Let us talk about it like it is, as in, not a whim of a redemption-seeking and perhaps more than a little entitled college kid—but a brain child of the alphabets, an energy that was “genetically engineered” by taking real problems and real hurt feelings that have piled up—and grafting dead-end, anger-inducing talking points and irksome absurdities onto pain. ...

Let us look at wokism as an expression of energy that was carefully engineered to irreparably divide and to appeal to the innocent undernourished souls who have been born into an emotionally starved, consumerist culture—who feel a lack of respect for their soul with their gut—but who are too young, too inexperienced, or perhaps too lazy to go on a journey and do an investigation of who had actually stolen the respect.

A one liner definition? Here it is. Wokism is a deliberate and malicious rerouting of the innate desire for respect. ...

Weaponizing trauma

A wounded person in charge is a dangerous person in charge. And that is exactly the reason why the masters at the top and their servants underneath have designed a strategy to weaponize the wounded and the pissed off against the dignified. It is to keep the dignified in check. It is to level the dignified to the wounded and ensure that regular people take the initiative and keep each other down. Saves a lot of overhead! And yes, there is a lot of complexity and a lot of nuance—no doubt—but the broad brushstroke is just that. It’s a Trojan horse.

“Identifying with ideas” is a dangerous drug

We are not our ideas. We are a lot more than that. And identifying with our ideas is a dangerous drug regardless of what the ideas are. Of course, some ideas are better than others—but the addiction part is the truly dangerous part. The non-addict happily changes his mind when a new understanding shows up. The addict doubles down.

And the psychos at the very top of the society would be powerless if they couldn’t successfully—and continuously—weaponize a combination of material deprivation (“do this or else you’ll die or starve”) and ideological goo. And they weaponize it so successfully—for centuries now—by constantly reshuffling who gets the stinkiest end of their stick. ...

This, by the way, is mostly how the real bad guys have been staying in the driver’s seat for such a long time. It is because every time there is an opportunity for an awakening of massive kindness and new clarity, and new healing, when there is new pain-driven honesty forming in the air, they insert a blinding, anxiety-based, anger-producing narrative—and kill that chance. ...

By the way, “the elites” are not one pile of homogeneous hulk but separate twisted-minded people whose individual ambitions may very well be in conflict with each other—after all, they’ve been poisoning and murdering their own family members left and right!—but their overarching ambition is the same (“take over the world, for ME ME ME ME ME”). And so, they’ve been trying forever to establish their empire. To feed their addiction to power. ...

When it comes to the tyrants, their whole personal dynamic is not about their relationship with the plebs but about their “horizontal” relationships with foreign leaders and—in case of active wars—with whomever who could help foot the bill. As far as the plebs, they don’t care about the little ants as long as they can control them, either by force or by fog. ...

Now, the critical part. What can get in their way? What can hinder their effort of imposing this horrible digital neofeudalism onto the people of the world? What can really-really hinder it?

What can get in their way is if we all start talking to each other and listening to each other’s unique and similar stories of being screwed. If we compare notes. And then ACT with hearts on protecting each other, and with a total dedication to respecting LIFE.

What can get in their way is if we open our hearts and ears to the stories from other families and clans and cultures (especially the ones who were abused at a different point in time and by different mobs). Because if we do, and if we do it with honestly, we will come to the inevitable conclusion that we’ve all been had.

Can you imagine the power of that? Can you imagine the power that will rise against the Great Reset if your regular busy, somewhat sheltered, westerner with classic American values realizes that what is being done to him today (the Great Reset, etc.) is exactly what’s been done to the indigenous, slandered as “savages,” and, earlier, to his own ancestors in Europe—under the auspices of roughly the same elites? ...

Think about this way. Here is analogy that is close to home. Say, you are boiling over how the past three years went (legitimately so, as the past three years have been an insult). Say, you are focused on boiling, and the voicing of your boiling provides some release (again, legitimately so). And so then, you are so pissed off (wounded) that don’t even want to heal from the inside—and you intend to stay pissed off until they change. Because they are wrong. And so you talk exclusively to the ones who think like you and relentlessly SHAME THE COVIDIANS ON THE GROUND. Granted, that feels good. But in terms of general strategy for actual victory of a loving, soulful world, what do you think the practical outcome of anger will be? I am not saying who’s right and who’s wrong about the ideas (you are right). I am talking strictly the practical outcome. If your focus is on yelling vs. healing yourself first and then seeing what’s what, what is the chance of you convincing your “covidian” brother and of standing up together against the real source of the abuse? I think the chance is slim.