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Accounting giant Ernst & Young admits its employees cheated on ethics exams
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2022 Jul 3, 11:40pm 537 views 8 comments
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FuckTheMainstreamMedia
2022 Jul 4, 7:06am
FuckTheMainstreamMedia
2022 Jul 4, 7:06am
I was a crap student my whole life…
At the college I went to it was a huge deal to be able to get a job offer for Arthur Anderson. I think they wouldn’t consider anyone with less than something like a 3.5gpa. I wasn’t even close and was sort of a bit jealous of those that were.
A couple years after I graduated I played in a home poker game and turns out that one of the guys in that game went to the same college I went to and worked for Arthur Andersen. He even made sort of a big deal out of it. He was also a completely unethical, gambling addicted, immoral degenerate. In particular I remember leaving the Bicycle Club poker room in LA one night maybe around 1am and returning the next day around 9pm and he was still there from the night before in the same clothes.
We know what happened to Arthur Andersen :)
At the college I went to it was a huge deal to be able to get a job offer for Arthur Anderson. I think they wouldn’t consider anyone with less than something like a 3.5gpa. I wasn’t even close and was sort of a bit jealous of those that were.
A couple years after I graduated I played in a home poker game and turns out that one of the guys in that game went to the same college I went to and worked for Arthur Andersen. He even made sort of a big deal out of it. He was also a completely unethical, gambling addicted, immoral degenerate. In particular I remember leaving the Bicycle Club poker room in LA one night maybe around 1am and returning the next day around 9pm and he was still there from the night before in the same clothes.
We know what happened to Arthur Andersen :)
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1337irr
2022 Jul 4, 7:19am
1337irr
2022 Jul 4, 7:19am
I should mentioned I once had books on finance and ethics stolen from me in my car when the trunk was open. It sucked at the time, but I hope the thief put them to good use :)
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clambo
2022 Jul 4, 7:20am
My father paid a ton of money to another big accounting place, UHY Advisors.
The only advantage of using the large accounting companies is your tax return will not likely be audited.
I don’t think they’re worth it of course.
The only advantage of using the large accounting companies is your tax return will not likely be audited.
I don’t think they’re worth it of course.
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NDrLoR
2022 Jul 4, 8:40am
NDrLoR
2022 Jul 4, 8:40am
ad says
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Andersen
Three and counting. This is what happens when rot infiltrates every institution on earth, from kindergarten all the way up to graduate schools, then people wonder why everything is falling apart when so much is based upon "let's pretend" and "wishful thinking".
Arthur Andersen 'By 2001, it had become one of the world's largest multinational corporations and was one of the "Big Five"'
Ernst & Young — one of the "big four"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Andersen
Three and counting. This is what happens when rot infiltrates every institution on earth, from kindergarten all the way up to graduate schools, then people wonder why everything is falling apart when so much is based upon "let's pretend" and "wishful thinking".
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NDrLoR
2022 Jul 4, 8:42am
NDrLoR
2022 Jul 4, 8:42am
Patrick says
ad says
It is ironically appropriate for them to cheat on the ethics exam.
ad says
they knew cheating was a violation of the company's code of conduct but did it anyway because of work commitments or the fact that they couldn't pass training exams after multiple tries
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NDrLoR
2022 Jul 4, 8:45am
NDrLoR
2022 Jul 4, 8:45am
FuckTheMainstreamMedia says
Yes we do! You were ultimately very lucky as this guy was the norm by that time. When all this was happening around 2000 when Enron was collapsing, there was an opinion piece in the WSJ by four or five former Arthur Andersen employees, by then in their 80's and 90's, about the strict culture of integrity that existed in the decades when they were there in the 40's and 50's. Nothing like what happened 40 years later would have been tolerated under their tenure. It was similar to the 3rd generation failure. The old man starts a business and runs it with integrity, followed by his son who pretty much follows suit and is a good steward. The third generation is a spoiled, entitled brat who lives off the bounty without contributing anything and ruins it.
We know what happened to Arthur Andersen :)
Yes we do! You were ultimately very lucky as this guy was the norm by that time. When all this was happening around 2000 when Enron was collapsing, there was an opinion piece in the WSJ by four or five former Arthur Andersen employees, by then in their 80's and 90's, about the strict culture of integrity that existed in the decades when they were there in the 40's and 50's. Nothing like what happened 40 years later would have been tolerated under their tenure. It was similar to the 3rd generation failure. The old man starts a business and runs it with integrity, followed by his son who pretty much follows suit and is a good steward. The third generation is a spoiled, entitled brat who lives off the bounty without contributing anything and ruins it.
Ernst & Young, one of the top accounting firms in the world, is being fined $100 million by federal regulators after admitting its employees cheated on their ethics exams.
For years, the firm's auditors had cheated to pass key exams that are needed for certified public accountant licenses, the Securities and Exchange Commission found. Ernst & Young also had internal reports about the cheating but didn't disclose the wrongdoing to regulators during the investigation.
"It's simply outrageous that the very professionals responsible for catching cheating by clients cheated on ethics exams of all things," Gurbir S. Grewal, director of the SEC's Enforcement Division, said in a release.
The fine is the largest penalty ever imposed by the SEC on an audit firm.
The CPA, or certified public accountant, licenses are needed by auditors to evaluate the financial statements of companies and ensure they are complying with laws.
However, the SEC says that a "significant number" of Ernst & Young audit professionals specifically cheated on the ethics component of the CPA exams that were required for their accounting jobs.
Because it's their job to hold others accountable, Ernst & Young — one of the "big four" accounting firms — says it holds itself to a high standard of ethics. In fact, the firm's entire global code of conduct is based on an "ethical" framework.
"At EY, nothing is more important than our integrity and our ethics. These core values are at the forefront of everything we do," Brendan Mullin, a spokesperson for Ernst & Young, said in an email to NPR. "Our response to this unacceptable past behavior has been thorough, extensive, and effective."
Many of the employees interviewed during the federal investigation said they knew cheating was a violation of the company's code of conduct but did it anyway because of work commitments or the fact that they couldn't pass training exams after multiple tries.
The SEC said that the cheating went on for many years, going back to 2012. Following the discovery of an earlier cheating scheme, the firm took disciplinary actions and repeatedly warned its audit professionals not to cheat on exams. Still, the cheating continued.
Along with paying the $100 million fine, Ernst & Young has to audit itself and report the findings to the SEC, including an assessment of its ethics and integrity training. It'll also be reviewed by independent consultants that the firm will have to pay for.
The cheating scandal comes just a couple of weeks after the Financial Times reported that Ernst & Young is planning to split its auditing and consulting arms, a huge shakeup in the accounting world that would award its partners up to $8 million in shares each.