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RWSGFY says

Carbon footprint of homegrown food five times greater than those grown conventionally

Good. With that extra CO2 the tomatoes and beans will grow better.

RWSGFY says

Carbon footprint of homegrown food five times greater than those grown conventionally

Sure, and the vaccines are safe and effective, the glaciers disappeared 5 years ago, and Ukraine will win the war any day now.

RWSGFY says

Carbon footprint of homegrown food five times greater than those grown conventionally

The study found individual garden infrastructure responsible for increased levels of CO2

Joe Pinkstone, Science Correspondent 22 January 2024 • 8:02pm

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/01/22/carbon-footprint-homegrown-food-allotment-increase/

I'd like to help summarize Joe's points a little more clearly. By conventionally he means food industry. Spraying the ground with poison, planting it with invasive GMO breeds, spraying again, and allowing that poison to spread over miles into families homes and children's lungs. Cultivating e-coli through pollution and waste, spreading it into the ground water, and leaving the land dead and barren.

Since I live in Yuma, and not far from El Centro, I've noticed a significant increase in child diseases and mental disorders. There's a correlation, which is why I've made sure we only live in areas at least two miles away from the fields.

Joe wants you to think cultivating your soil, making yourself healthier, and taking money away from industrial operations is bad. Clearly Joe has some issues...

RWSGFY says

Carbon footprint of homegrown food

Carbon shmarbon.

Patrick says

RWSGFY says

Carbon footprint of homegrown food

Carbon shmarbon.

Carbon is a trace element. I worry more about an ice age than anything. Warming would open up vast swaths of land that could grow enormous amounts of food that already is unpopulated, as in unusable land currently. Warming would be good.

The rise in temperature would be trivial in places that already grow crops. I'm in the 10# camp on this, we have gravity and the oceans don't have a pool liner. The crust is porous at the ocean floor. Added water from ice is added pressure and is pushed into the crust. Was just down in FL and nothing has changed water level wise since I was 5 about 35 years ago. Zilch. We're talking hurricanes and barrier islands that are basically sand bars above sea level. According the climate idiots these islands should be gone by now. They're not.

Patrick says

it's work to put them in the coop each night

Automatic door opener with a light sensor. Opens up a couple of hours after sun up, closes at dark.
There are several kits out there and pretty easy to install.

Still - can be a hassle. Had to put a fence around garden to keep chickens out, and another one because they
got into the main back yard and were pooping on the pool deck. Then you need to build a run, with a coop for laying
inside as well... And... And... LOL

Plus where there are chicken coops there are rats.

Our chickens would never voluntarily go back in the coop in the evening, but always flew up to the lower branches of a Redwood tree.

To deal with rats, lace the feed with cayenne pepper. Or get a cat.

My wife planted mustard and we enjoyed eating the greens. Then they went to seed, and I collected a bunch of the seeds:



It was really hard to get all the chaff out. Blowing a little gets most, but if you blow a lot, you lose seeds. I didn't have any mesh of the right size.

Now I've ground them up, added vinegar and salt, and I'm letting it sit overnight.

Patrick says

that’s hard, land got expensive. speculators buy it up by miles

I saw a video about a guy who had a "farm" in the city of Los Angeles. Using raised beds, and selling to local restaurants. I think it may have been his full time job..

Hey, my mustard actually tastes like mustard. Nice. The seeds absorb vinegar when you let them sit in it.

I grow food and learned few techniques from the following two channels.
https://www.youtube.com/@Gardenfundamentals1

The End is Coming | Grow Your Own Food NOW!
https://youtu.be/dl7hBtQMmZw

Patrick says

Anyone have advice for how to get rid of gophers?

We have a planter they cannot get into, at least not so far, but it's small. The larger part of the yard has a very busy gopher though, and it eats a lot of our plants.

Search for gopher hawk

Try this - perfectly vicious:

https://www.victorpest.com/victor-mole-trap-m0645

Got chickens from a family that was moving, got the coop and everything for free, they are great. Four chickens are giving me two eggs a day and I add thier poop to my compost for my garden. Hopping once they hit a year old maybe il get more eggs a day.

RC2006 says

Got chickens from a family that was moving, got the coop and everything for free, they are great. Four chickens are giving me two eggs a day and I add thier poop to my compost for my garden. Hopping once they hit a year old maybe il get more eggs a day.

Cool. I want chickens. 3 boys that all eat eggs and we could be talking 5-8 eggs a day. I've looked into it, just not seriously. We might literally have 1/2 an acre of gardening space currently, well for next year. Plenty of space for the shit.

Kind of more farming, but the wife got a god damn cat. I like them for rodent control. But I also don't like them as house pets. This isn't a brag as I do feel bad, but I did kick it and got it out of my space. I'm allergic, nephew is allergic and I believe my son is as well. Outside of rodent control cats are useless animals. They don't belong indoors.

Ha I have 3 cats, a golden retriever, and now the chickens. Along with the same amount of boys as you.

I keep them in a large run and let them out an hour or so before it gets dark, right before it gets dark they go in there coop and I close the door. Eggs are more nutritious than store bought and I know what they are eating. Two of my kids eat eggs every day.

RC2006 says

I keep them in a large run and let them out an hour or so before it gets dark, right before it gets dark they go in there coop and I close the door.

You're talking the boys now right?... lol. Had to go there. I am interested for real in chickens. Sad we have to get approval for crap like this, but my village does allow it fortunately.

WookieMan says

RC2006 says

I keep them in a large run and let them out an hour or so before it gets dark, right before it gets dark they go in there coop and I close the door.

You're talking the boys now right?... lol. Had to go there. I am interested for real in chickens. Sad we have to get approval for crap like this, but my village does allow it fortunately.

We raise chickens, pretty fun. Hobby only, not commercially.

Fortwaye says

We raise chickens, pretty fun. Hobby only, not commercially.

Not into animals much anymore, but chickens produce so I'm intrigued. 5 family dogs have burned me out, I'd question getting animals again is all. I don't seem emotional here, but losing dogs sucks ass. I was 16 and just got my drivers license and had to put down the family dog. Parents were working. Legit take it to the vet at 16 and kill a dog that I had known my whole life. Honestly the worst moment of my life. The song I was listening to in the car is etched in my mind. Hum it everyday. Incubus and I'm not even a big fan of the band it was just the time, late 90's.

Not sure if you get attached to chickens. I've had too much death in my life. I don't know if adding more life is a good idea, for me at least. I'll probably end up liking the chickens even as cranky as I can be here.