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Patrick says

Most of these on the right are VERY optional.

RWSGFY says

Most of these on the right are VERY optional.

They’re all required for entry to public school, unless you have an exemption (religious, philosophical, or medical), and you can add COVID, hep A, hpv, and rsv to that list as of last fall. States like CA allow only medical exemptions, which are near impossible to get.

goofus says

RWSGFY says

Most of these on the right are VERY optional.

They’re all required for entry to public school, unless you have an exemption (religious, philosophical, or medical), and you can add COVID, hep A, and hpv to that list as of last fall. States like CA allow only medical exemptions, which are near impossible to get.

Not all. I have 3 kids in school so I know what I'm talking about. For example, Influenza, which is prominenly featured on the right, is not required and not even mentioned by the doctor at check-ups.

HPV - optional for sure. In fact, I don't think anything outside of the stuff listed in the second column on the left is mandatory.

Alright, 97% of them. Maybe influenza is optional (are you in California?)

goofus says

Alright, 97% of them. Maybe influenza is optional (are you in California?)

Yes, in California. And here is a doc to confirm my feeble memory doesn't betray me:

https://www.cdph.ca.gov/Programs/CID/DCDC/CDPH%20Document%20Library/Immunization/IMM-231.pdf

97%? In what math?


Influenza? No
HPV? No
Meningo? No.
Rotavirus? No.

The meme is pure shit. Remove non-mandatory stuff from the right and it's not much different from what's on the left.

And it's completely inexcusable when our government mandates jabs of experimental biologic agents on children to "save grandma". Even if they didn't steal the election they are illegitimate for violating human rights and the constitution.

https://vigilantfox.substack.com/p/this-is-what-happens-when-you-dont?r=6gdz

Looks like that chart was put together in what 2017?? - So doesn't take the Vaxx into account.

Since almost all kids are/were vaccinated then, the ability of the researchers to get a decent sample of unvaccinated children becomes a sticking point.

Since there is no sample size listed, the results if not totally fabricated are subject to the small sample sizes.

Misc says

Since almost all kids are/were vaccinated then, the ability of the researchers to get a decent sample of unvaccinated children becomes a sticking point.

It's a chart of general vaccination.

Polio, for example, is no longer necessary in my opinion. It's dead in the wild. Whenever there's an outbreak, it's FROM a live polio vaccine.

They are still using Thiomersal in vaccines. That's a mercury compound. In Israel, they use sesame seed oil as an adjuvent, in the US, peanut oil is used. Ever heard of a sesame seed allergic reaction in the US? Israelis have never heard of a peanut allergy.

The vaccines definitely cause problems, that's UNQUESTIONABLE at this point, the question is, is the risk worth the reward?

Remember all those pictures of kids in iron lungs from the 1950's? That happened AFTER vaccination, not before. Media was more tightly controlled then, AND BTW, I know a person that got polio, he's my age. He was never vaccinated and he got it. He has to walk in crutches in winter.

The idea that "vaccines are TOTALLY SAFE" is wrong. They aren't. However, there's no comprehensive studies on the risk. We know Amish children (who DO get vaccinated frequently, and sometimes never do) have a far lower incidence of autism. It's SUSPECTED it's linked to how many vaccines they take. Amish take a minimum if any. We don't know what their infant mortality rate is - and there's STUDIES on this, but the government won't release the studies to the public.

I wouldn't take a flu vaccine at this point, and never will. The increased incidence of Alzheimers may have been from flu vaccines. That was an unheard of disease in the 1970's, but by the 80's, everybody knew about it.

https://celiafarber.substack.com/p/jennifer-margulis-reports-hard-won

Hard Won Autopsy, Near Impossible To Achieve in US, Confirms Two Month Old Baby Died From Over-Vaccination

Patrick says

There are likely larger factors in play such as mother's age at conception and fertility treatments and procedures. Also kids are diagnosed with autism (and add/adhd) which would have been considered normal within the bell curve not long ago.

mell says

There are likely larger factors in play such as mother's age at conception and fertility treatments and procedures. Also kids are diagnosed with autism (and add/adhd) which would have been considered normal within the bell curve not long ago.

I know a guy who swears that his kid was developmentally normal, until he gave his kid 5 shots to be "caught up on the vaccines". His kid is now a young adult, but not an entirely functional one, he had severe autism. His child will have to be institutionalized when his father dies, and he had worked all his life to provide for him beyond his own lifetime.

5 years ago, I would have brushed this off as hysteria, but it's quite obvious at this point that the medical establishment doesn't care about public health. The current set of vaccines for covid were entirely unnecessary, and didn't provide any level of protection from a disease nobody needed protection from even if the vaccine DID work, and they didn't.

I know that outbreaks of polio ONLY seem to happen (to my knowledge!) after a vaccine campaign. They are using live attenuated viruses, the result is that unvaccinated ADULTS get that strain of polio although it should be impossible. The polio vaccine is bread in conditions that a human body SHOULD kill very quickly, but it's a evolutionary system, and the virus is sometimes able to adapt, and to spread. I think wild polio, is extinct. I think the vaccine has no benefit at this point. The only people that are at risk of polio today, are the unvaccinated being around the recently vaccinated. The vaccinated are a threat to the unvaccinated it appears.

The inactivated/dead polio vaccine given exclusively since 2000 cannot cause polio. I'd agree that it's likely useless though polio doesn't seem completely eradicated, but mostly. It would be good to come up with reliable biomarkers for autism, so cause and effect are easier to prove. We still don't know much about it. I would definitely go slow on vaccines, spread them out and refuse useless ones for kids such as hep b as long as possible, unfortunately most preschools and schools require kids to be up to date. Unlike covid, rsv can be serious and fatal in kids

mell says

The inactivated/dead polio vaccine given exclusively since 2000 cannot cause polio.

They still have live attenuated polio vaccines. I have a friend whose kids just went through immunization. HE'S the paranoid one, he's the one that changed my thinking on the whole vaccine thing.

It's pretty easy to measure incidence of autism and see if it correlates with vaccination. This is TRIVIAL to do, and they refuse to do it. That means, there's likely a link. When you don't look for something, you're not going to find it, are you?

They know.

Thiomersal is STILL being used in vaccinations. This is a mercury compound. It's used as preservative, but it's never been studied on its own. It's TRIVIAL to do this in animal models, but they won't do it.

Our medical complex is designed to make people sick, stupid, and weak.

I think vaccines DO have their place, but I'm really pissed they aren't more studied.

If everybody around me is vaccinated, and immune, and I'm not vaccinated, I am extremely unlikely to be able to contract the disease. I think that is what is being done, at the expense of the entire public. I'm certain vaccines can be made safe, and I'm equally certain they are not currently. Adjuvants appear to create allergies. In Israel, they use sesame seed oil as an adjuvant, in the US, peanut oil. Allergies to peanuts is UNHEARD OF IN ISRAEL, just like allergies to sesame seeds is unheard of here.

It's obvious to me that injecting these into your system, causes allergies. It's blatantly obvious. They definitely know, but now they have a money maker. You need to carry around an epi-pen for life. They don't care.

We should also look at how much less the diagnosis is for retardation. It would probably track with the increase in Autism rates. Sorta like just a change in semantics by the medical profession.

As far as the overall SIDS rate, the SIDS rate for Blacks is about 4 times higher than for White or Hispanics. Blacks historically have a much lower vaccination rate.

Hence, the idea of vaccines causing SIDS doesn't really fly.

mell says

vaccines, spread them out and refuse useless ones for kids

There have been NO safety tests on childhood vaccines.

Onvacation says

mell says

vaccines, spread them out and refuse useless ones for kids

There have been NO safety tests on childhood vaccines.

I know they didn't do any tests on the covid toxxines but they used to do safety and efficacy trials on the age group they are trying to get approval for.

richwicks says

It's pretty easy to measure incidence of autism and see if it correlates with vaccination. This is TRIVIAL to do, and they refuse to do it. That means, there's likely a link. When you don't look for something, you're not going to find it, are you?

They did that and there is no link. Don't belive everything you read. I agree on too many vaccines in general, and that dangerous additives should be removed, but I would not advise anybody not to give any vaccines to their kids, but rather make a case by case decision. Autism is the least I'm worried about when it comes to vaccines. Also you did not address the point Misc made which clearly indicates there are much bigger factors at play when it comes to Autism (if vaccination even is one).

https://www.theburningplatform.com/2023/09/16/baby-who-died-34-hours-after-vaccines-had-toxic-level-of-aluminum-in-his-blood-report-confirms/

A Maine couple last week finally got the answers they’d been seeking for nearly a year, ever since their 62-day-old son, Sawyer, died Oct. 28, 2022 — 34 hours after receiving his scheduled childhood vaccines.

According to a toxicology report, Sawyer’s blood contained 95 micrograms per liter of aluminum, a level that would be toxic for adults.

A toxicologist told the couple the aluminum and antigen levels in the blood were due to the vaccines. ...

On Oct. 20, 2022, Melissa took Sawyer to a doctor for a persistent rash around his torso. The doctor diagnosed a viral infection, gave Melissa some medicinal cream and told her to monitor Sawyer’s temperature for possible fever.

Exactly one week later, Melissa went to the same pediatrician for a baby wellness checkup, where the doctor insisted Sawyer, despite Melissa’s reservations and the baby still having a rash, receive the scheduled childhood vaccines.

These included: RotaTeq (for rotavirus), Hib (for Haemophilus influenzae b), Prevnar 13 (for 13 types of pneumococcal bacteria) and Pediarix (for diphtheria, tetanus, pertussis, hepatitis B and polio).

Dr. Lawrence Palevsky, a pediatrician, told The Defender, “I don’t know of any official warnings against vaccinating sick children,” but “there are no upsides to vaccinating a sick child. There are only downsides.” He added, “And, there are no upsides to vaccinating any child.”

Melissa told The Defender that, despite her medical training, she became skeptical of vaccines just two days prior when she watched a video of a toxicologist talking about the dangers of vaccines for children. She discussed the upcoming vaccinations with her fiancé, and they decided to go ahead with them.

“We were afraid that the medical system was going to judge him and judge us and not let him into school,” Nick said. “We just hadn’t done any research on it.”

mell says

richwicks says

It's pretty easy to measure incidence of autism and see if it correlates with vaccination. This is TRIVIAL to do, and they refuse to do it. That means, there's likely a link. When you don't look for something, you're not going to find it, are you?

They did that and there is no link.

Show me the papers. If they did do this, you should be able to find them.

And I certainly don't believe everything I read. I'm throwing this back on you. Show me a correlation study, and I'm asking this KNOWING that people were purposely killed with Hydroxychloroquine by overdosing them on the drug to "prove" that it's not an effective treatment against sars-cov2-19 and the paper was retracted in the Lancet.

https://informedchoice.substack.com/p/no-vaccines-did-not-save-lives-and

No, Vaccines did NOT save lives. And I can prove it to you.

The mantra parroted by doctors, scientists and many in the community is a fabrication. I have never yet seen any evidence that vaccines have saved even one life. ...













... If vaccines didn’t save lives, what did?

Civil engineers and plumbers are the real heroes of this story. Clean water, better living conditions and access to food are why fewer children and adults had died. If we spent a fraction of the money we currently spend on sending toxic drugs and vaccines to the developing world, their experience would be similar to ours.

Funny the smallpox vaccine has saved millions upon millions.

Misc says

Funny the smallpox vaccine has saved millions upon millions.

Has it?

I think Polio has been eradicated. Every outbreak is a result of a live, attenuated virus, as far as I have known, for over 10 years.

We just went through 2 years of hysteria over a chest cold. Did you see people dying in the streets? Did you hear a higher incidence of ambulances? How many of your coworkers dropped dead? Your church, when you were ALLOWED to go to church?

Maybe, just possibly, our medical industry, is an industry and has nothing to do with administering health, or trying to cure disease. Maybe, it's just a purely for profit institution, and the only dopes in the industry, went through 8 years of tireless, sleepless indoctrination, and don't read medical papers, like I do. You can too, BTW - just get out a medical dictionary (they are online) - might be slow, but there's NOTHING mysterious about medicine. They are glorified mechanics. They don't deserve the title of "doctor".

mell says

I know they didn't do any tests on the covid toxxines but they used to do safety and efficacy trials on the age group they are trying to get approval for.

Used to? When did they stop?

I did a quick search on "childhood vaccine safety and efficacy tests" and found: "In the case of the COVID-19 vaccines, randomized controlled trials involving tens of thousands of people, which were reviewed by multiple groups of experts, revealed no serious safety issues and showed that the benefits outweigh the risks."

I didn't find anything about children's vaccines in my short search but if the "experts" found the vaxx "safe and effective" they probably don't care about children.

Onvacation says

mell says

I know they didn't do any tests on the covid toxxines but they used to do safety and efficacy trials on the age group they are trying to get approval for.

Used to? When did they stop?

I did a quick search on "childhood vaccine safety and efficacy tests" and found: "In the case of the COVID-19 vaccines, randomized controlled trials involving tens of thousands of people, which were reviewed by multiple groups of experts, revealed no serious safety issues and showed that the benefits outweigh the risks."

I didn't find anything about children's vaccines in my short search but if the "experts" found the vaxx "safe and effective" they probably don't care about children.

They did trials on different age groups in the beginning, incl. children. But the follow up is way too short. What I meant by used to is that they used to track real safety and efficacy over many years by comparing infection and death rates. Then they suddenly switched to presence of antibodies as enough proof which is ludicrous, and in the latest toxxine approval they didn't even require antibodies in humans anymore, just mice.

Richwicks:

Looks like you misread what I wrote.

You see smallpox has been eliminated from the planet except for the samples the US, Russia and France have in safekeeping. I didn't say anything about polio.

By eliminating smallpox, that vaccine has saved millions upon millions.

Misc says

Richwicks:

Looks like you misread what I wrote.

You see smallpox has been eliminated from the planet except for the samples the US, Russia and France have in safekeeping. I didn't say anything about polio.

By eliminating smallpox, that vaccine has saved millions upon millions.

True, but that works only for viruses which don't mutate, or rarely mutate, and generally have no other, non-human, hosts. It would never work for a corona virus, unless they can zoom in on a trait common to all variants.

I do not mean to change the subject of this discussion but since you mentioned this...

mell says

"...that works only for viruses which don't mutate, or rarely mutate, and generally have no other, non-human, hosts. It would never work for a corona virus, unless they can zoom in on a trait common to all variants."

It is important - critical in fact - to mention here that we have medications that kill all the Corona virus variants. Specifically, Ivermectin and HCQ (Hydroxychloroquine). And in the presence of medications that cure Covid, Vaccines under the Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) are not allowed and they are in fact illegal.

The_Deplorable says

I do not mean to change the subject of this discussion but since you mentioned this...

mell says

"...that works only for viruses which don't mutate, or rarely mutate, and generally have no other, non-human, hosts. It would never work for a corona virus, unless they can zoom in on a trait common to all variants."

It is important - critical in fact - to mention here that we have medications that kill all the Corona virus variants. Specifically, Ivermectin and HCQ (Hydroxychloroquine). And in the presence of medications that cure Covid, Vaccines under the Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) are not allowed and they are in fact illegal.

Well, technically, ivermectin and HCQ don't kill viruses. They inhibit viral (as well as bacterial and parasitical) replication and growth. It's up to one's immune system to mop up and kill the remaining pathogens. The mop up procedure is usually 100% effective because one's body ramps up its immune defenses to fight the pathogen, while the pathogen is forced to stand still and take it because it can't out-replicate the damage the immune system inflicts.

I've taken ivermectin several times in the past 3 years. Each time, while my symptoms were completely repressed, it still took me 7-10 days to completely conquer the infection. Based on my experience, I'd claim it's more accurate to say that ivermectin and HCQ are near 100% effective at incapacitating pathogens, allowing the body to effect a complete cure.

https://drtesslawrie.substack.com/p/the-shocking-truth-no-vaccines-are

In the context of emerging revelations of regulatory body incompetence and corruption, e.g. The Perseus Report, the WCH Health and Science Committee notes that:

Several research studies now indicate that vaccinated children have far worse health outcomes with higher rates of many chronic diseases than non-vaccinated children.

The integrity of scientific research and the regulatory process of childhood vaccines, including the new nasal ‘flu’ vaccine, now being administered en masse in schools is in question.

Pharmaceutical corporations have a long-standing history of misrepresenting products that cause injuries and deaths. Pfizer, for instance, has paid the largest criminal settlement in history for drug fraud. The childhood vaccination schedule provides these unscrupulous corporations with unregulated access to the bodies of our children.

Modern society is experiencing unprecedented rates of autism, asthma, allergies, inflammatory bowel disease, diabetes, obesity, depression and more, for which the root cause/s have not been established.

Much of what we have been told about the success of early vaccines, including smallpox and polio vaccines is emerging as untrue. Clean water, modern plumbing, hygiene, refrigeration, and improved nutrition are real factors that have correlated with the dramatic reduction in many infectious diseases over the past century.

National regulatory agencies have never done the necessary evaluation to determine whether vaccines given to children alone or together according to the ever-expanding childhood vaccination schedules are associated with poor health outcomes compared with children who are not vaccinated.

National regulatory agencies have been turning a blind eye to the mounting evidence linking childhood vaccination with autism that has emerged since a possible link was first suggested in 1998.

National regulatory agencies have also been turning a blind eye to the mounting evidence linking childhood vaccination with other diseases, including asthma, allergies, and bowel disease.

The vast majority of children find vaccination with needles painful and long-term psychological harms, including disruption to breastfeeding and maternal bonding, have not been properly evaluated.

There are serious concerns among experts that existing childhood vaccines will be converted to mRNA technology, which has never been proven safe for use in vaccines for adults let alone children, and that this will be done without public awareness, consent and a robust research and regulatory process.

With regard to Covid-19 vaccination, evidence from independent experts and official international databases show that the Covid-19 vaccines are not effective and are not safe, raising serious questions around the authorisation of the Covid-19 vaccines for babies and children.

https://kirschsubstack.com/p/former-major-city-police-detective

Former major city police detective reveals 50% of SIDS cases happened within 48 hours post vaccine

My 16-minute interview of Jennifer, a former police detective in a major US city who handled over 250 SIDS investigations over 7 years implicates the childhood vaccines as the major cause of SIDS.