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ESG is decided by a small group of political actors. It’s awarded much higher scores to oil companies than to say Tesla. It’s based on how much the leftists like you right now. It’s a totally illegitimate way of assessing a company, and hopefully there will be enough pushback that it’ll go the way of MySpace.

Scott Adams used to be aight but the Plandemic fucked up his head pretty good. He was scared as fuck of Covid and jumped on the vax train fast and hard. I stopped listening to him around then. I didn’t need another vaxxer lecturing me.

Tenpoundbass says

He then caved on the whole Flu Scamdemic, lockdown, and the clot shot.

He always supported the official narrative on the coronavirus. All in on masks from the start. Never doubted the validity of the tests, thought it was a great idea to close the borders.

I used to enjoy the “Coffee With Scott Adams” video stream daily on Twitter’s now-discontinued Periscope platform (now on Locals) for his insight on Trump and political persuasion, and on politics, the media, and life in general. But his acceptance of the reality of a “pandemic” started making him unwatchable for me.

Karloff says

HeadSet says

othing stopping a greenie from getting rid of the fossil fuel sourced electric dryer and stringing up the wet laundry where wind and solar can do their magic.

Unless you live in an inhospitable climate, like I do. Try that in the winter and you'll be bringing in rock-hard frozen towels and underwear.

What did your grandparents do, provided they lived in the Arctic like area as well? Remember most families did not have dryers until the late 70s or so. Those families managed to hang dry clothes in the basement or over the bathtub, etc.

I'm not sure. My grandparents are all dead now, so I can't ask them. The basement seems like a poor choice as it is typically cool and moist, unless you're using an electric heater to assist. There's not that much room in the bathroom, unless you have very few clothes to deal with.

Karloff says

HeadSet says

othing stopping a greenie from getting rid of the fossil fuel sourced electric dryer and stringing up the wet laundry where wind and solar can do their magic.

Unless you live in an inhospitable climate, like I do. Try that in the winter and you'll be bringing in rock-hard frozen towels and underwear.

If you leave them out long enough the water is actually "freezes out" of them and they become almost dry. The level of dampness is perfect for ironing.

True, if it's cold enough, the air moisture content is essentially zero, which greatly aids in drying.

I've often wondered why we don't have vacuum dryers which extract water by pumping all the air out. My science teacher in high school gave an example with a bell jar and I've been impressed with that idea ever since. Has to be cheaper than just using heat.

Karloff says

I'm not sure. My grandparents are all dead now, so I can't ask them. The basement seems like a poor choice as it is typically cool and moist, unless you're using an electric heater to assist. There's not that much room in the bathroom, unless you have very few clothes to deal with.

If you live in a cold area, you know how dry it can get in winter in your home. My fingers used to CRACK and bleed when I lived in NY.

You know, getting a collapsible clothes rack isn't really a bad idea to use in winter. Just set it up in the living room at night and run laundry before you go to bed. The moisture it adds to the air in the winter probably would do you good.

Patrick says

I've often wondered why we don't have vacuum dryers which extract water by pumping all the air out.

I know the answer to this question, because I had the same question!

Drawing a vacuum is quite energy intensive and the moisture in the water can damage the motor drawing the vacuum. A better dryer (that exists) recirculates the air and uses a dehumidifier to remove the water - this is a "condenser dryer". They are more efficient (don't know how much) and they are about 1/2 as fast as a conventional dryer. One advantage is you don't need an outside exhaust, and in winter, it basically just heats your home.

https://www.amazon.com/s?k=condensor+dryer&crid=2UNUYW0OQ9QK9&sprefix=condensor+dryer%2Caps%2C160&ref=nb_sb_noss_1

richwicks says

A better dryer (that exists) recirculates the air and uses a dehumidifier to remove the water - this is a "condenser dryer".

Hadn't considered that, but it makes sense. Instead of using heat, you can use coldness to condense water from the air in the dryer on some surface and have it drip away.

Why do you think hanging stockings by the fireplace is a Christmas tradition? Because that’s how they dried their socks in the winter. And everything else most likely.

Scott is a resident of Pleasanton.

He might be our most famous resident after the recent death of John Madden

Spittin' distance in tri-valley where I livz half the time. Maybe I should go over there and protest loudly dressed in an official Hunter Biden jock strap.

Patrick says

richwicks says

A better dryer (that exists) recirculates the air and uses a dehumidifier to remove the water - this is a "condenser dryer".

Hadn't considered that, but it makes sense. Instead of using heat, you can use coldness to condense water from the air in the dryer on some surface and have it drip away.

I think it both heats and cools It heats (I think) to cause evaporation and cools to cause condensation. The output heat of the condenser is fed into the dryer (I believe). The excess energy is dumped into the surrounding atmosphere.

There ARE dryers that are just dehumidifiers. I think they circulate the air, and dry at ambient temperature with a dehumidifier - these are also closed air systems. These are the most efficient, and slowest. They don't have tumblers, you hang the clothing up like a clothes line on racks. I think if you're going to resort to that, just setup a drying rack in your living room before you go to bed. In winter they would add humidity to the home (which you need), and in summer, open a window.

If you want low energy, well, time fixes it. Clothing is a little stiff being dried on a rack but once you put it on, it regains its shape and flexibility. I think doing this is a little obsessive. Lots of families didn't have an automatic dryer though until the 1960's. Drying racks aren't like clothes lines, because of the wind, the clothes flop around, on a drying rack, they can be kind of stiff because of minerals in the water - clothes line either shakes this off, or just makes it irrelevant. Take a towel out of the washing machine and hang it up, see how comfortable it feels the next day you shower - hang it up wet on a towel rack... It's going to get wet anyhow, right? It doesn't have to be TOTALLY dry to use.

I re-use towels as well. What's the sense of being so compulsive to launder them after one use? In THEORY I'm clean, but that theory only works for a week, 2 at the most.

richwicks says

You can dry laundry in winter, just takes longer.

My professor neighbors do it indoors during the winters here, and I'm talking laundry for those with dirty minds. They have this thing that looks like a tree with a tripod base. So they just dry it indoors. Takes longer as you mention, but works. With three kids I don't have patience for that shit. Natural gas is cheap here, so dryer it is. Time is $$$ and yes I know you're not physically drying it, but it does take time to hang it and then wait.

I'm also a scent guy. As in I want my clothes to smell good and not douse myself with cologne or other products to smell good. A dryer sheet during that process helps it. Air drying doesn't add anything and takes too long. I go deodorant and cologne free 98% of the time and people will comment that I smell good. They'll legit smell my arm or shoulder. I used to be a cig smoker, so I've always been paranoid about smelling like I smoked.

Bad part now is I have no smell. Minimal at least. Never tested + for covid, but it's notably different since some time in 2021. This is gross, but shit. It all has this new pungent scent to it. Cow, pig, human, farts, etc. (I live in the fields). Covid or natural aging, I have to add a lot more flavor and spice to my food to be able to taste it. Then have to make separate food for the kids. It's annoying. I know of a couple people with the same issue.

Ceffer says

Spittin' distance in tri-valley where I livz half the time. Maybe I should go over there and protest loudly dressed in an official Hunter Biden jock strap.

The guard at the gate won't let you through.

OK you pansies, as someone raised as a poor black child in the foothills of South Carolina, I have worn many articles of clothing that was hung out to dry in -32 weather.
They dry eventually, but they are starched stiff and solid, you bring them in and throw your pair of pants or shirt over the wood stove for a few moments to warm them up.
But the firm stiff texture, helps keep you warm as they don't hang so lose on your body allowing more air to pass through the weave. .

@wookieman
I’ve read that the loss of smell is related to swollen nerves in from the olfactory system to the brain. There are intra-cranial channels for these nerves and when the nerves are swollen and aggravated, they are under pressure in those channels and don’t work well. This can also happen for optic nerves from Covid or especially the vax. Plenty of people have lost their eye sight after the vax.

Try some anti-inflammatory meds and see how that does. The sort of stuff you’d be prescribed for a sore back or muscle injury.

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Patrick says

I've often wondered why we don't have vacuum dryers which extract water by pumping all the air out. My science teacher in high school gave an example with a bell jar and I've been impressed with that idea ever since. Has to be cheaper than just using heat.

It's not - I thought this was a super swell idea, until I found out what it takes to draw a vacuum. First, that takes a lot of energy to do that, and when you're drawing a vacuum, you have to remove the moisture from the air before it goes into the pump, because as soon the output is shoved out at 1 atmosphere, it's liquid again and its bad for the motor.

Plus is causes the water to freeze.

A better system is a clothes dryer that recirculates the air, and removes the water using essentially a dehumidifier. They exist, takes longer to dry clothing, but you don't need an exhaust port for your dryer.

1 atmosphere is like 14.7 lbs per square inch too. If you had a dryer with a face that is say 1x1 foot, that's 12 x 12 x 14.7 which is about 2 thousand pounds which would be pushing down on that square foot.

Patrick says

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Ishida is killing it. Man, I remember that kind of rage - I felt it several years ago. That kind of rage is special to men, and once you experience it, you don't fucking care - you are on a mission, and other people are afraid of you. You are a wounded animal, and you're dangerous.

richwicks says

Patrick says

I've often wondered why we don't have vacuum dryers which extract water by pumping all the air out. My science teacher in high school gave an example with a bell jar and I've been impressed with that idea ever since. Has to be cheaper than just using heat.

It's not - I thought this was a super swell idea, until I found out what it takes to draw a vacuum. First, that takes a lot of energy to do that, and when you're drawing a vacuum, you have to remove the moisture from the air before it goes into the pump, because as soon the output is shoved out at 1 atmosphere, it's liquid again and its bad for the motor.

Plus is causes the water to freeze.

A better system is a clothes dryer that recirculates the air, and removes the water using essentially a dehumidifier. They exist, takes longer to dry clothing, but you don't need an exhaust port for your ...

I’m pretty sure water in a vacuum doesn’t freeze, it boils off at lower temperature than at STP of 212 F.

ForcedTQ says

I’m pretty sure water in a vacuum doesn’t freeze, it boils off at lower temperature than at STP of 212 F.

A liquid under vacuum will always freeze,well, except for helium and hydrogen. Remember triple point charts?



Below the tripple point, a substance can exist as a liquid and gas at the same time.

As the pressure goes down, the higher energy molecules of the water boil off - this is Brownian Motion which is thought to be what is (most likely actually is) "heat".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brownian_motion

Higher energy molecules escape into the surrounding atmosphere to become a gas which is drawn out by the vacuum pump, this causes the temperature to drop of the remaining liquid because lower energy molecules stay in the liquid. Eventually the remaining liquid will freeze, then then it starts to sublime - going directly from a solid to a gas, not melting into a liquid first.

When I think about it, it's a little more complicated (I think?) than that, but that is how it works for water. That's what "freeze dried" means - they take a food, draw a vacuum on the food, the water boils off (I suppose they probably heat it as well, but not very hot), and you end up with a dried bit of ice cream, or peas, or something.

Here's a video of freezing water in a vacuum chamber:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4BGV7-1lhs

If you want to see something bizarre, here's helium as a superfluid:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Z6UJbwxBZI

Superfluids are WEIRD. This is one of those things where we can see quantum mechanics at work. Basically, a superfluid is frictionless - I don't know if they really have a triple point (just checked - some molecules don't have a triple point.) There's a lot of bizarre properties with it. I think basically (I think - could be wrong) that all the helium fluid becomes one long chain molecule like this, single molecule:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3neqUhoDRA

That's polythylene glycol. If you put it into a blender, it breaks up the molecule, not certain if it reassembles into a single molecule over time though.

Anyhow - in conclusion, lowering the pressure would cause water to boil at a lower temperature, but when the pressure is low enough, the water will freeze although the ice will continue to sublime.

And if you want to get REALLY bizarre, there's the Boise-Einstein condensate - this is when atoms are SO COLD that the position of an atom cannot be known because of the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle which states that you can know exactly where something is, but not its velocity, or its exact velocity, but not its location, but not both (or something like that - close that). When you cool down hydrogen to near absolute zero, the hydrogen atoms start to overlap, because the velocity of them is near absolute zero (due to Brownian Motion), but the location of any individual atom becomes completely impossible to determine. They confirmed this was true in the last 2 decades, because sending a photon through was so slowed down by going through the mass, that it was under 100 miles an hour. The refractive index went WAY up.

An atom with no Brownian motion - i.e. at absolute zero, in theory, would exist everywhere in the universe at once. Some ideas are that all mater is just standing wave functions, and as you reduce this Brownian motion to nothing, this wave function gets to have a longer wavelength, and at absolute zero, this wavelength is infinite. String theory kind of hints at this, but that's WELL above my understanding because it's all math, and difficult math. The longer a wavelength, the lower the energy, at least with photons, we know that, we can observe that.

I used to like physics, but unfortunately, I hate chemistry because I'm too stupid to understand it because it requires memory not logic - you cannot reason it all out. All chemistry is ultimately physics, but we know so little physics, that we cannot use it entirely to do chemistry. Also, all models are wrong. Models do a good job of describing observation, but they are always flawed, that's why they are called models. I'm far too stupid to be a scientist, but I studied a lot of it.

I still like science, it's falsifiable - if you can prove that some claim is bullshit, you can prove it's bullshit, and that's the end of it. Fauci is not "the science", he's bullshit. I think people need to understand science better, it's "boring" to most people, but it is a goddamn search to understand ultimate reality. What is a more noble endeavor? I'm just too dumb to do it or be a part of it, but my little attempt to get into it, to understand the scientific process, has turned on my bullshit meter to 95%. It takes work to find out if you are hearing bullshit, but when you hear bullshit, there's a contradiction somewhere, you just need to find it. If you can't find one, probably what you've been told is correct. It's all critical thinking.

BTW, engaging in critical thinking kind of sucks. I can detect scams a decade before other people will - I should have invested in bitcoin in 2006, I have a few bitcoins I mined myself, I KNOW it won't work as a currency, and I have lost my bitcoins. Somewhere on one of these drives. I don't know if it's moral though to get some sucker to buy these worthless numbers. It will go to 0 at some point, and I'm just not comfortable making money doing nothing. It seems evil.

When pulling vacuum, up to pressure of about 4 mmHG (absolute) any water vapor will flash off. At pressures lower than that it will flash freeze (at room temperature).
Vacuum systems are used in a range of industrial applications, from freeze drying food to oil refining to palm oil processing.

As a professor of Thermodynamics, I love the triple point chart!

Richwicks, you missed my STP variable, with the modifier being the vacuum on the P portion.