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This is one fucked up country.

That's insane.

Alex is being punished only because he is not politically correct.

Patrick says

That's insane.

Alex is being punished only because he is not politically correct.

What are the lawsuit/damages based on anyway?

GNL says

What are the lawsuit/damages based on anyway?

Hurt Feelings.

I wonder when they will sue him for saying 911 was an inside job?

On Bannon War Room Live right now.

https://rumble.com/v1j1h4t-warroom-live.html

Jones is explaining he has $1M in the bank and $1M in his company.

Onvacation says

GNL says

What are the lawsuit/damages based on anyway?

Hurt Feelings.

I wonder when they will sue him for saying 911 was an inside job?

The beauty of it, and I assume he was smart with his assets, he won't have to pay a dime. Once a lawsuit was filed he probably got everything into protected classes of assets. This is civil and not criminal so no jail if he doesn't pay anyway. He may have assets, but they cannot just take them and he likely pays himself as an independent contractor. So they won't be able to garnish wages. They cannot garnish the wages of a company. This was simply a lawsuit to get attorneys paid. And they'll keep getting paid on the appeal.

Whether Jones was intentionally being a dick and making shit up really doesn't matter. None of us will ever know if Jones is full of shit or it was a hoax. We weren't there. We literally have witness protection that has the sole purpose of hiding criminals. I'm not big on Alex Jones as I do believe he's a drunk, but he's been right on a lot of stuff. I'll give him that. But basically $1B in pain and suffering???? Sue the fucking family of the guy that killed them... oh wait, they don't have any money.

Our judicial system is shit.

this is insane, i don’t see 900 million in damages anywhere. wtf happened to free speech?

jury is made of morons. hurt feels = 900 million. thats ultimate stupidity

From ABC News: "A Connecticut jury awarded hundreds of millions of dollars in damages to 15 plaintiffs defamed by conspiracy theorist Alex Jones when the InfoWars host called the 2012 Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting a hoax staged by actors following a script written by the government to build support for gun control."

This is why I pray I never get tried as a political target in Woke statist and left wing authoritarian states like Connecticut or cities like Washington DC. There is no way a judge or jury (of "my peers") would be unbiased and fair.

That is why those January 6 protestors are fucked by having their trials in Washington DC. The same juries and judges would give AntiFa a free pass.

And that is why special prosecutor Durham is fucked by having his cases tried in Washington DC.

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And that is why special prosecutor Durham is fucked by having his cases tried in Washington DC.

Current case is being heard in Alexandria, VA just south of DC. It is still generally a satellite of the foreign occupied foreign city state of DC.

I lived there for a couple of years as a military brat in the day.

This is absolutely ridiculous. A billion dollars for defamation? No way the Sandy Hook residents’ “reputations” were worth that much, even if they had been damaged, which they weren’t. I will go meta-Alex and say this verdict was faked. Don’t feel sorry for Alex Jones. He is just a crisis actor whose job here is to make you afraid of questioning the media.

GNL says

What are the lawsuit/damages based on anyway?

I also don't understand.

OK, it's a civil suit and not a criminal prosecution. In my limited understanding, civil suits are for cases where one citizen has harmed another, and criminal prosecutions are where a citizen has violated a law.

What harm to themselves did the plaintiffs claim? I don't think "hurt feelings" is a valid basis for a civil suit.

https://stfrancislaw.com/blog/criminal-law-vs-civil-law/

Civil law is typically broken down into four separate fields, which could intersect, depending on the case:

Contract Law enforces and interprets agreements between people, businesses, or groups related to the exchange of money, services, goods, or property.
Property Law governs the different forms of ownership regarding personal and real (land) property.
Family Law involves issues related to family relationships, including child custody, divorce, adoption, paternity, emancipation, etc.
Tort Law covers most civil suits, as it involves the law that protects and compensates people who have been injured by the recklessness or negligence of wrongdoers.

It must be a tort. What was the injury exactly?

We are in a soft civil war until enough people have had enough.

Patrick says

That's insane.

Alex is being punished only because he is not politically correct.

Politically incorrect is "being right but saying it in not-so-nice way". Alex Jones was wrong. Not the same thing.

670: Beware the Jabberwock is an episode of This American Life that shows what it is like to be a parent of one of the kids killed at Sandy Hook.

Eric Holder says

Alex Jones was wrong.

Is there some legal obligation to be right?

My point is that Alex Jones is being persecuted because he is politically incorrect. It's about politics, not about the law.

Ceffer says

Current case is being heard in Alexandria, VA just south of DC.

Good point. I use to live in Alexandria, VA about a mile from Huntington Metro station.

That means the best that you can hope for as a "jury of your peers" is a bunch of Democrats who want Trump tried for treason, still wear masks, and are waiting on their seventh COVID vaccine shot.

But at least you won't get a stacked jury full of violent AntiFa and Woke statists :-/

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Inflation?

Alex Jones just had a program saying that lower dimensional aliens stranded on earth have presented themselves as gods to the Globalists. If the Globalists kill most of humanity, the aliens have promised to merge with them and hybridize, to create inter dimensional technology to leave the earth.

It figures that the Globalists are alien fuckers.

In Texas, your house is immune from civil judgement.
Likewise, qualified retirement accounts (IRA, 401K, annuity, 403b)
I hope he had the foresight to have a big retirement account somewhere.
O.J. Simpson has a $30 million civil judgement and he lives on his NFL pension.

clambo says

Likewise, qualified retirement accounts (IRA, 401K, annuity, 403b)

Yes, it is nice that it applies nationwide. It includes employer sponsored retirements also like pensions like you mentioned OJ's NFL pension. I guess that applies to government pensions as well.

https://finance.zacks.com/retirement-plan-safe-lawsuit-7616.html

And its nice to know that Florida also protects homestead homes: https://www.alperlaw.com/florida-asset-protection/

Now if we could just make homes immune from eminent domain.

"Lower dimensional aliens trapped on earth sue Alex Jones 1.5 billion for slandering them as facilitators of Globalist terror!"

I have no horse in the Sandy Hook race, refuse to expend my brain cells doing the 'deep dive' required of conspiracy theories on that one, but this article is interesting;
"Judge Barbara Bellis, had eliminated the fact-finding part of this defamation trial, by making a default judgment against Jones. Had there been a real massacre, here was Jones' chance to present his conspiracy theory and let the other side subpoena witnesses to prove him wrong. Whenever I see a judge acting abnormally (as in the Boston Marathon case, in which I was an amicus curiae), I know he or she has been instructed to ignore the rules. One must ask why?"
Directed verdict means she was told not to allow any evidence into a court of law, and the ridiculous damages will be overturned on appeal. Similar things happened at 9/11 where they didn't want claims getting into the records of evidentiary process of court, so claims were all settled under pressure out of court as expeditiously as possible.
"Thirteen Reasons Why I Reject the Official Sandy Hook Story"
https://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=209335

You all see how the Woke statists and left wing authoritarians have infected the judicial system ?

Not only with this recent ruling but look at how they let Cruz only get life in prison for murdering all those people in Stoneman high school in Florida.

Its dystopia justice.

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I initially bought into Jones, then thought he's paid opposition, coming back around to he might be legitimate. Regardless this whole thing is Clown World. Just makes me question Sandy Hook even more.

I watched the coverage of Sandy Hook as it happened. I understand why Jones thought it was a hoax. Shit was WAY off and both my wife and I thought it was a hoax.

porkchopexpress says

I watched the coverage of Sandy Hook as it happened. I understand why Jones thought it was a hoax. Shit was WAY off and both my wife and I thought it was a hoax.

Even if it wasn't a hoax. $1B for saying something??? That's absurd. Also was god damn near a decade ago. I'd be upset if my child died, but at some point you need to figure out how to heal. The families were likely set for life from fundraisers and insurance. This is just a lawyer ambulance chaser grab in all honesty. If Jones does actually pay out you know $300M is going to attorneys. If people think that's justice for a person saying words, then you're a moron. Get thicker skin.

Price negotiation is all about "where do we start?" If you ask for $900+ million, the next court will reduce the penalty, but by how much? Even a 90% reduction leaves a $90 million payout, likely enough to bankrupt Jones. His net worth is in dispute but numbers range from $40 - $135 million. This was the goal all along - remove a chess piece from the board.

WookieMan says

porkchopexpress says

I watched the coverage of Sandy Hook as it happened. I understand why Jones thought it was a hoax. Shit was WAY off and both my wife and I thought it was a hoax.

Even if it wasn't a hoax. $1B for saying something??? That's absurd. Also was god damn near a decade ago. I'd be upset if my child died, but at some point you need to figure out how to heal. The families were likely set for life from fundraisers and insurance. This is just a lawyer ambulance chaser grab in all honesty. If Jones does actually pay out you know $300M is going to attorneys. If people think that's justice for a person saying words, then you're a moron. Get thicker skin.

You're looking too low Wookie. It's an automic bomb to the 1st amendment.

GNL says

It's an automic bomb to the 1st amendment.

If the Woke statists can use the law against you, they will use the civil courts and
$2500 misinformation fines" to grind you down.

Look at how the authoritarian left is twisting the arm of companies using ESG score. The same authoritarian left and Woke statists are jealous of the Chicoms with their COVID lockdowns, political dissident prisons, social credit score system, etc.

So if they can't put you behind bars because the pesky Bill of Rights is in their way, and if they can't do enough like dox you and get you fired from your job, then they'll relentlessly find other ways.

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