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Has Ukraine’s Army Been Reduced by Almost 50%?
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2022 Dec 1, 2:44pm 10,453 views 55 comments
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DD214
2022 Dec 5, 8:09am
RayAmerica says
They must be delirious now and high on fumes from the stashed currencies after Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan. This latest kerfuffle must be the desert portion huh ?
The Armaments manufacturers, the Big Banksters and the crooked politicians that are swimming in all of those $Billions that Dear Leader Biden has sent over by the boatload, much of it finding its way back here in the form of 'kick backs,' of course safely hidden in off-shore accounts.
They must be delirious now and high on fumes from the stashed currencies after Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan. This latest kerfuffle must be the desert portion huh ?
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Eric Holder
2022 Dec 5, 1:27pm
Eric Holder
2022 Dec 5, 1:27pm
It modern military thinking any unit losing 30% of its personnel is considered "combat destroyed". As in "not able to fight anymore". Now, if AFU has indeed lost 50% of its personnel why the fuck are we seing Red Army advancing to the rear and losing 50% of the land they grabbed initially and not the other way around?
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Eric Holder
2022 Dec 5, 2:54pm
Eric Holder
2022 Dec 5, 2:54pm
cisTits says
It may be in the DoD PP slide deck but it is basically shared by many military minds all over the world. Just like other military truism like "3-1ration attackers to defenders" and "can't successfully attack a 40-mil country with 200K force from 9 directions, you stupid KGB fuck". Sometimes they don't work, but they do work most of the time.
Eric Holder says
It modern military thinking any unit losing 30% of its personnel is considered "combat destroye
What 'modern military thinking'? A DoD PowerPoint slide deck?
It may be in the DoD PP slide deck but it is basically shared by many military minds all over the world. Just like other military truism like "3-1ration attackers to defenders" and "can't successfully attack a 40-mil country with 200K force from 9 directions, you stupid KGB fuck". Sometimes they don't work, but they do work most of the time.
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zzyzzx
2022 Dec 5, 4:11pm
zzyzzx
2022 Dec 5, 4:11pm
clambo says
If Poland wanted to invade Russia, I would think that by now the Polish army would have taken the Russian occupied part of East Prussia and kicked out the inhabitants, furthermore taken all of Belarus and be closing in on Moscow by now. Probably would be a clean sweep including St Petersburg and Moscow if Finland joined them.
I guess he thinks Poland wants revenge more than it does a better standard of living, so he fears it will attack Russia someday?
If Poland wanted to invade Russia, I would think that by now the Polish army would have taken the Russian occupied part of East Prussia and kicked out the inhabitants, furthermore taken all of Belarus and be closing in on Moscow by now. Probably would be a clean sweep including St Petersburg and Moscow if Finland joined them.
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WookieMan
2022 Dec 6, 7:35am
WookieMan
2022 Dec 6, 7:35am
cisTits says
It's 2022. Soldiers can check their social media in battle if they want. My buddy did in Afghanistan. The world has changed. Russian soldiers can see what they're doing is bull shit. I don't care if we're fighting a proxy war or not. Russia is a limp dick. Not much else to it. They're fighting a war figuratively with catapults. Fine, launch rocks, lead or whatever all day into buildings no one is occupying.
We fucked up in Iraq and Afghanistan for sure. This is exponentially more retarded though from the Russian end. We probably have 5-10k hired mercenaries there. Russians are drunks. They're not winning. Winter is no longer an issue with modern gear. Again this isn't the 1940's. Russia bit off more than they could chew for essentially no reason. We could wipe them out with 100 traditional munitions/bombs overnight.
And no, I don't care for Ukrainians either. So no bias on my end. This conflict is just pure retardation at this point. No one should have a pony in this race to retardation. USA has the experience in Iraq and Afghanistan. Live you learn.
"OK boys! We are already at 30% casualties. So according to future DoD bullshit, we can just stop fighting now!" - Genetal at the Battle of the Bulge
It's 2022. Soldiers can check their social media in battle if they want. My buddy did in Afghanistan. The world has changed. Russian soldiers can see what they're doing is bull shit. I don't care if we're fighting a proxy war or not. Russia is a limp dick. Not much else to it. They're fighting a war figuratively with catapults. Fine, launch rocks, lead or whatever all day into buildings no one is occupying.
We fucked up in Iraq and Afghanistan for sure. This is exponentially more retarded though from the Russian end. We probably have 5-10k hired mercenaries there. Russians are drunks. They're not winning. Winter is no longer an issue with modern gear. Again this isn't the 1940's. Russia bit off more than they could chew for essentially no reason. We could wipe them out with 100 traditional munitions/bombs overnight.
And no, I don't care for Ukrainians either. So no bias on my end. This conflict is just pure retardation at this point. No one should have a pony in this race to retardation. USA has the experience in Iraq and Afghanistan. Live you learn.
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richwicks
2022 Dec 6, 8:07am
richwicks
2022 Dec 6, 8:07am
WookieMan says
Russia just has to wait and fight a war of attrition while Europe starves not just for heat, but basic energy.
This is Vietnam 2.0
Quit listening to stupid US propaganda. We've got Baghdad Bob as the chief propagandist
This war will of course hurt Russia, but it will hurt Europe more and destroy Ukraine. Everybody in EU government knows the US started this stupid conflict.
Russia bit off more than they could chew for essentially no reason. We could wipe them out with 100 traditional munitions/bombs overnight
Russia just has to wait and fight a war of attrition while Europe starves not just for heat, but basic energy.
This is Vietnam 2.0
Quit listening to stupid US propaganda. We've got Baghdad Bob as the chief propagandist
This war will of course hurt Russia, but it will hurt Europe more and destroy Ukraine. Everybody in EU government knows the US started this stupid conflict.
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RayAmerica
2022 Dec 7, 6:45am
RayAmerica
2022 Dec 7, 6:45am
Have you noticed that drone & missile attacks are now occurring INSIDE Russia?
This marks a very significant escalation of the conflict. No doubt, Ukraine, the pawn in the NATO/West chess game, will pay a heavy price in the interim.
Much more serious is this scenario; Russia has the world's largest cache of modern nuclear weapons. This war now appears to be spreading onto the mainland of
Russia. Russian leaders have repeatedly warned that the 'suppliers' of any weapon that is used on any attack upon Russian soil will be considered to be an enemy
combatant. Question: from what nation, or, nations, did Ukraine obtain these weapons that are being used to attack the mainland of Russia? How will Russia
retaliate against those that they now consider to be their direct enemy?
Long ago, this conflict morphed into something that is way beyond the scale of importance. Ukraine is an incredibly corrupt nation ... even the EU recognizes that to be true.
Whatever happens to the nation of Ukraine is of no significant national security interest to us.
The West & NATO have continued to provoke Russia. After the CIA/NATO coup that led to the downfall of the Russian-friendly Ukraine government in 2014, Russia has
sensed (rightfully so) that they are being surrounded, provoked, and intimidated by the West & NATO. For Russia, Ukraine was the line in the sand.
The very real threat of an all-out nuclear war is a distinct possibility, and, that threat continues to heighten with each passing day. Seriously, is Ukraine worth risking the
possibility of killing *5 BILLION people?
*Rutgers University conducted a study that concluded that up to 5 Billion people would die within two years of a nuclear war between the U. S. and Russia.
This marks a very significant escalation of the conflict. No doubt, Ukraine, the pawn in the NATO/West chess game, will pay a heavy price in the interim.
Much more serious is this scenario; Russia has the world's largest cache of modern nuclear weapons. This war now appears to be spreading onto the mainland of
Russia. Russian leaders have repeatedly warned that the 'suppliers' of any weapon that is used on any attack upon Russian soil will be considered to be an enemy
combatant. Question: from what nation, or, nations, did Ukraine obtain these weapons that are being used to attack the mainland of Russia? How will Russia
retaliate against those that they now consider to be their direct enemy?
Long ago, this conflict morphed into something that is way beyond the scale of importance. Ukraine is an incredibly corrupt nation ... even the EU recognizes that to be true.
Whatever happens to the nation of Ukraine is of no significant national security interest to us.
The West & NATO have continued to provoke Russia. After the CIA/NATO coup that led to the downfall of the Russian-friendly Ukraine government in 2014, Russia has
sensed (rightfully so) that they are being surrounded, provoked, and intimidated by the West & NATO. For Russia, Ukraine was the line in the sand.
The very real threat of an all-out nuclear war is a distinct possibility, and, that threat continues to heighten with each passing day. Seriously, is Ukraine worth risking the
possibility of killing *5 BILLION people?
*Rutgers University conducted a study that concluded that up to 5 Billion people would die within two years of a nuclear war between the U. S. and Russia.
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RWSGFY
2022 Dec 7, 7:17am
RWSGFY
2022 Dec 7, 7:17am
RayAmerica says
Russia is all hat and no cattle. They have already failed multiple shittests. Remember "Armageddon is inevitable if a single shell lands in Crimea"? How about "Kherson oblast is Russia now and will be forever and if Russian soil is attacked it will be defended by all means available, including nukes, THIS IS NOT A BLUFF"? Yeah, me too.
PS. The wundervaffe that hit strategic bomber bases was provided by country named USSR - these are old Soviet recon drones Tu-141 refit to carry explosive charge. I guess Russia will have to nuke itself now.
Have you noticed that drone & missile attacks are not occurring INSIDE Russia?
This marks a very significant escalation of the conflict. No doubt, Ukraine, the pawn in the NATO/West chess game, will pay a heavy price in the interim.
Much more serious is this scenario; Russia has the world's largest cache of modern nuclear weapons. This war now appears to be spreading onto the mainland of
Russia. Russian leaders have repeatedly warned that the 'suppliers' of any weapon that is used on any attack upon Russian soil will be considered to be an enemy
combatant. Question: from what nation, or, nations, did Ukraine obtain these weapons that are being used to attack the mainland of Russia? How will Russia
retaliate against those that they now consider to be their direct enemy?
Long ago, this conflict morphed into something that is way beyond the scale of importance. Ukraine is an incredibly corrupt nation ... even the EU recognizes that t...
Russia is all hat and no cattle. They have already failed multiple shittests. Remember "Armageddon is inevitable if a single shell lands in Crimea"? How about "Kherson oblast is Russia now and will be forever and if Russian soil is attacked it will be defended by all means available, including nukes, THIS IS NOT A BLUFF"? Yeah, me too.
PS. The wundervaffe that hit strategic bomber bases was provided by country named USSR - these are old Soviet recon drones Tu-141 refit to carry explosive charge. I guess Russia will have to nuke itself now.
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RayAmerica
2022 Dec 7, 7:43am
RayAmerica
2022 Dec 7, 7:43am
Putin: Risk Of Nuclear War "Rising", Will Defend Russia "By All Available Means"
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/putin-risk-nuclear-war-rising-will-defend-russia-all-available-means
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/putin-risk-nuclear-war-rising-will-defend-russia-all-available-means
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WookieMan
2022 Dec 13, 6:06am
WookieMan
2022 Dec 13, 6:06am
cisTits says
It's not the 1940's. Throw humans at this all you want. Russia is in the stone age militarily. This is fact. This whole deal should have been over by now. If you're so dominant Russia should have just rolled in with the tanks and taken over.
Maybe they're playing a long game, but any rational observer would say Russia is getting their asses handed to them. Frankly it's embarrassing for a land invasion of a neighbor. This isn't like Joe Dirt from America going to Afghanistan. The Russian troops have likely visited or been to parts of Ukraine they're attacking. And they still aren't winning. No Navy needed. Air superiority is null.
Face it, their brut force didn't work against Western weapons. Maybe long term Russia gets something out of this, but currently they're looking like the losers. What is the point of blowing up all the Ukrainian infrastructure and still seemingly losing the war? Even if you win, you destroyed everything and have a populous that is likely to have animosity towards you for generations.
We did it in the ME. That's why we'll have terrorism for generations. Russia is always going to have problems with its neighbors. This isn't a new situation. They're making it worse and look like shit on a global scale.
Euroweenies who will not send their little under-population-replacement darlings to die in Ukraine don't count in the numbers. Only those that have a realistic probability of being drafted, trained and deployed to actually fight, like Russian reservists, for example.
It's not the 1940's. Throw humans at this all you want. Russia is in the stone age militarily. This is fact. This whole deal should have been over by now. If you're so dominant Russia should have just rolled in with the tanks and taken over.
Maybe they're playing a long game, but any rational observer would say Russia is getting their asses handed to them. Frankly it's embarrassing for a land invasion of a neighbor. This isn't like Joe Dirt from America going to Afghanistan. The Russian troops have likely visited or been to parts of Ukraine they're attacking. And they still aren't winning. No Navy needed. Air superiority is null.
Face it, their brut force didn't work against Western weapons. Maybe long term Russia gets something out of this, but currently they're looking like the losers. What is the point of blowing up all the Ukrainian infrastructure and still seemingly losing the war? Even if you win, you destroyed everything and have a populous that is likely to have animosity towards you for generations.
We did it in the ME. That's why we'll have terrorism for generations. Russia is always going to have problems with its neighbors. This isn't a new situation. They're making it worse and look like shit on a global scale.
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RayAmerica
2022 Dec 13, 6:47am
RayAmerica
2022 Dec 13, 6:47am
Do you support Ukraine? If YOU do, it's time for YOU to pony up! Zelensky wants YOU to donate to the cause. Remember, give until it hurts!
Zelensky Names Price for Ukraine’s Winter Survival: Seeks $840+ Million in Donations
https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2022/12/13/zelensky-names-price-for-ukraines-winter-survival-seeks-840-million-in-donations/
Zelensky Names Price for Ukraine’s Winter Survival: Seeks $840+ Million in Donations
https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2022/12/13/zelensky-names-price-for-ukraines-winter-survival-seeks-840-million-in-donations/
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WookieMan
2022 Dec 13, 7:30am
WookieMan
2022 Dec 13, 7:30am
cisTits says
And where has that gotten them? They have resources in the ground and that's it. Russia does and makes nothing. Make all the artillery you want. We're talking Ukraine, one of the most corrupt nations on the planet run by drunks. Just because Russia decides to kill off its young men every generation doesn't mean it's logical or winning at anything. They look like fucking idiots, no different than we did dicking around in the ME, but we lost a fraction of our troops compared to Russia over the centuries.
Every party involved in this dumb ass shit is a dumb ass. Europe, US, Russia, whoever. Europe and Russia is a shit hole of morons. We shouldn't be involved in anything over there beside exporting anything that is still American made. Let the dumb assess over there start a 3rd European war. Let them just kill each other.
The Russians have been doing thus shit for centuries.
And where has that gotten them? They have resources in the ground and that's it. Russia does and makes nothing. Make all the artillery you want. We're talking Ukraine, one of the most corrupt nations on the planet run by drunks. Just because Russia decides to kill off its young men every generation doesn't mean it's logical or winning at anything. They look like fucking idiots, no different than we did dicking around in the ME, but we lost a fraction of our troops compared to Russia over the centuries.
Every party involved in this dumb ass shit is a dumb ass. Europe, US, Russia, whoever. Europe and Russia is a shit hole of morons. We shouldn't be involved in anything over there beside exporting anything that is still American made. Let the dumb assess over there start a 3rd European war. Let them just kill each other.
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Bd6r
2022 Dec 13, 7:51am
Bd6r
2022 Dec 13, 7:51am
RWSGFY says
Don't forget Ukraine will cease to exist in 3 days, then all will be over in a few months, etc. Before that it was Putler is so smart he will never attack Ukraine, he had no troops in Ukraine in 2014, etc.
No different from covid jabber aficionado prediction track record.
Russia is all hat and no cattle. They have already failed multiple shittests. Remember "Armageddon is inevitable if a single shell lands in Crimea"? How about "Kherson oblast is Russia now and will be forever and if Russian soil is attacked it will be defended by all means available, including nukes, THIS IS NOT A BLUFF"? Yeah, me too.
PS. The wundervaffe that hit strategic bomber bases was provided by country named USSR - these are old Soviet recon drones Tu-141 refit to carry explosive charge. I guess Russia will have to nuke itself now.
Don't forget Ukraine will cease to exist in 3 days, then all will be over in a few months, etc. Before that it was Putler is so smart he will never attack Ukraine, he had no troops in Ukraine in 2014, etc.
No different from covid jabber aficionado prediction track record.
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If Russia wins, that would be an enormous blow to the elites that want to construct a despotic, totalitarian, One World Government.
From the article:
Ursula von Der Leyen’s did the unthinkable today — she told the truth. During a speech condemning Russia for committing war crimes, she noted in passing that 100,000 Ukrainian “officers” (sic) have been killed since the start of the SMO.
If the 100,000 dead number is true, then that means Ukraine’s total casualties — i.e., killed and wounded — is approximately 400,000. In other words, Ukraine has suffered almost 40% casualties since the start of the fighting. During the 20th Century, this type of modern warfare normally saw 3 wounded soldiers for every man killed. Using that ratio we get the 400,000 number for total casualties.
It appears that some Western analysts who previously pooh-poohed the Russian tactics, are finally beginning to realize that Russia is serious about de-militarizing Ukraine via methodical, grinding tactics. There will come a point when Ukraine runs out of men and cannot field a combat effective force. It appears that day is approaching.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/12/ukraines-army-reduced-almost-50/