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RayAmerica says

What exactly is the purpose of our ever increasing involvement in Ukraine?

we started it, so your guess is as good as any. i see it as war on russia. we have history if destabilizing region, blowing it to shit in proxy or direct war, then buy up all important at fire sale.

richwicks says

Governments always try to explain it as incompetence when they are actually involved with malice, without exception. England wanted war.

I'll have to disagree with you on that one. Here's why; World War I was a disaster for Britain as it led, in large part, to the ongoing disintegration of its vast empire.
After World War I, Britain disarmed, destroying much of their naval fleet, air force, artillery, etc. Britain's politicians disarmed that nation as a direct result of the
enormous mistake of their involvement in World War I. As the winds of war began to blow across the channel, Britain didn't even have enough rifles in which to train troops, instead, they actually practiced using non-firing 'guns' that were cut out of wood! The entire east coast of Britain was left unprotected due to virtually no functioning artillery batteries. It was America that bailed Britain out via FDR's "Lend Lease" program, supplying them with war materials, including US Naval ships.

In contrast to Britain, Germany was a land based military power that had modernized their war machine, proving their superiority over Britain at Dunkirk. The ill-equipped
Brits were simply no match for the Germans. The same proved true for France, which had the largest standing Army (by far), in the entire world., yet, they fell to Germany
in a matter of weeks.

Germany's modern military might was well known, and Britain wanted to avoid war with them at all costs. After suffering enormous losses in WW I, Britain had no real
stomach for another European War on the mainland. WW II proved to be a disaster for them, as it basically finished off what was once the world's greatest empire.

RayAmerica says

I'll have to disagree with you on that one. Here's why; World War I was a disaster for Britain as it lead, in large part, to the ongoing disintegration of its vast empire.

Oh governments do fuck up. That's for certain - but why did England even get into World War I? What was the goal of THAT war?

RayAmerica says

Germany's modern military might was well known, and Britain wanted to avoid war with them at all costs.

If that's the case, it would have been pretty fucking simple. If Britain simply didn't enter the war and remained neutral, just as Switzerland (supposedly) did, that would have been that.

There was no need for England to enter the war at all. Or France, which immediately just surrendered because they country determined there was no point to the war. The conflict could have been confined just to Germany and the USSR.

RayAmerica says

What exactly is the purpose of our ever increasing involvement in Ukraine?

Ukraine is the criminal enterprise butler for the Western banksters, pols and intels. It also hearkens back to the 'old war' between the Khazars and the Slavs, each seeking the eradication of the other with only intermittent, uncomfortable truces. The Khazars think they can go back to being land pirates in Ukraine and Kazakhstan with control of the entirety of Western finance and corporate ownership under their belt. They just have to deploy the Nazis again and eliminate the Slavs, as usual usual.

Those pesky Slavs.

Hugh_Mongous says

LOL. Russia can't do anything about it. Except maybe bombing some transformers again. Just like they responded to attack on their two strategic airfields housing nuclear-capable bombers.

Dude.

If most cities had no electricity for just a week, there would be chaos.

Without electricity, many cities don't have water.

Onvacation says

Hugh_Mongous says

Russian Nazism

I knew WW2 was a scam!

ALL wars are scams.


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RayAmerica says

Russia has the world's largest cache of modern nuclear weapons.

I wonder what percentage of them actually work.

Booger says

I wonder what percentage of them actually work.

i don't know about you, but I wouldn't want to find out.

Even though it's highly debatable as to whether or not Plato actually wrote this, it remains a truthful observation, and one that Douglas MacArthur used in his farewell
speech at West Point:

"Only the dead have seen the end of war"