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WookieMan says
I don't play the stock game, but I'd be shorting if I was a gambler.
Tesla Stock trading about $170 today. Let's check back later and see if shorting would have won.
Tesla has dropped below $150, so a short position would have won.
Car rental operator Hertz (HTZ) reported it lost another $200 million due to its EV gamble.
In its first quarter earnings report, Hertz said it “upsized” its prior EV fleet drawdown plans by an additional 10,000 EVs, which led to the company incurring a $195 million charge to vehicle depreciation for writing down the value of EVs held for sale.
The company previously said it would sell off 20,000 EVs from its fleet, meaning it will now dispose of 30,000 EVs in its fleet through the end of 2024. Add today’s charge to the $245 million write-down taken in Q4, and the company has now lost $440 million on its EV gambit.
Hertz’s EV fleet — which once stood at 60,000 EVs, will be cut down to half that at 30,000 EVs. A third of Hertz’s EV fleet was from Tesla (TSLA), with the rest coming from Polestar (PSNY), Volvo (VLVLY), and Chevrolet (GM).
For the quarter, Hertz reported an adjusted loss of $1.28 a share, wider than the $0.44 loss analysts were expecting. Hertz reported an adjusted net income loss of $392 million, more than double the $147 million loss expected.
Hertz stock was down 20% in midday trading.
Hertz’s depreciation per unit (DPU) soared to $592 in the first quarter, jumping from the $498 it saw last quarter and more than double the $253 it reported in Q1 last year. Hertz blamed the deterioration in DPU on losses from the sales of gas-powered vehicles as well as on losses from the market value of EVs in its fleet and from the disposition of other EVs.
There weren’t just financial costs to Hertz’s EV bet. Last month, Hertz’s then-CEO Stephen Scherr, who spearheaded the plan to go all in on EVs, was replaced by Gil West, former COO of GM’s Cruise autonomous unit and, prior to that, COO of Delta Air Lines.
"Fleet and direct operating costs weighed on this quarter's performance," Hertz CEO Gil West said in a statement. "We're tackling both issues — getting to the right supply of vehicles at an acceptable capital cost while at the same time driving productivity up and operating costs down."
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Only driven one Tesla and didn't notice this, but it's worth noting. If they're shit cars that's even worse. One short clip, but I don't know, wouldn't surprise me.
Ford’s electric vehicle unit reported that losses soared in the first quarter to $1.3 billion, or $132,000 for each of the 10,000 vehicles it sold in the first three months of the year, helping to drag down earnings for the company overall.
Ford, like most automakers, has announced plans to shift from traditional gas-powered vehicles to EVs in the coming years. But it is the only traditional automaker to break out results of its retail EV sales. And the results it reported Wednesday show another sign of the profit pressures on the EV business at Ford and other automakers.
The EV unit, which Ford calls Model E, sold 10,000 vehicles in the quarter, down 20% from the number it sold a year earlier. And its revenue plunged 84% to about $100 million, which Ford attributed mostly to price cuts for EVs across the industry. That resulted in the $1.3 billion loss before interest and taxes (EBIT), and the massive per-vehicle loss in the Model E unit.
The build quality is definitely not super: one of the Teslas I rented had what seemed to be a loose nut rolling under the floor from one side to another in every turn.
Ford’s electric vehicle unit reported that losses soared in the first quarter to $1.3 billion,
RWSGFY says
The build quality is definitely not super: one of the Teslas I rented had what seemed to be a loose nut rolling under the floor from one side to another in every turn.
Not your empty beer bottle?
RWSGFY says
Ford’s electric vehicle unit reported that losses soared in the first quarter to $1.3 billion,
Odd that it did not affect Ford stock.
I only drink beer from cans while driving. Besides, how would it get UNDER the floor?
I only drink beer from cans while driving.
RWSGFY says
I only drink beer from cans while driving.
Good idea. Opening a beer bottle with your teeth cause tooth loss if you hit a pothole.
RWSGFY says
I only drink beer from cans while driving. Besides, how would it get UNDER the floor?
Run over a drunk?
Many times, but the same question arises: how does the bottle get above the battery (and under the floor).
And Hyundai offers $239 per month, no down, no sec deposit, 24 months, 12K miles per year lease on Ionic 6.
This is on supposedly $46K car.
Toyota bz4x in a RWD form can now be leased for $229 per month, $0 down, $0 security deposit for 36 months with 12K miles allowance.
RWSGFY says
Toyota bz4x in a RWD form can now be leased for $229 per month, $0 down, $0 security deposit for 36 months with 12K miles allowance.
May get one for my daughter. Why not when they are that cheap? She only drives local.
I only drink beer from cans while driving. Besides, how would it get UNDER the floor?
if the batteries actually last 10 years. Who is going to buy it?
Haven't plenty of people already bought knowing in 10 years the battery is going to need to be replaced or the vehicle junked?
I think it was about $5k for the battery (not including labor). I suppose that would be OK for another 100k miles,
$5k quote for battery + $600 labor! = $5.6k / 150k lifetime miles warranty = battery costs $.0373/mile
But based on the the snapshot of the current prices, the overall costs of Prius are not too different from my ICE costs!
After about 100k miles I would ask the dealer service advisor for a quote for a replacement. I think it was about $5k for the battery (not including labor). I suppose that would be OK for another 100k miles, but the warranty for the replacement battery was for ONE YEAR.
Back in the day, a company called Discount Cab in AZ had a fleet of 200 Prius. The head manager told me that they routinely got 300,000 miles out of them on the original batteries.
it can't even get 100 miles towing with a trailer that isn't insanely big.
I bet someone puts some extra batteries in the truck!
but you don't ever have to go to a gas station. That's the only advantage.
Just a charging station for 30 minutes to get 85 miles and have to unhook your trailer to access the charger... wasting at least 60 minutes. Wave of the future. Lol. No non-gay is going to buy this truck. I tow weekly for the most part. It's literally unusable besides being a fag magnet with no actual utility.
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