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Abraham Lincoln and the civil war


               
2023 Jan 15, 1:32pm   2,925 views  23 comments

by richwicks   follow (2)  

I just wanted to post this. I was trying to find a good, and dense, video on just what kind of person Lincoln really was.


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The civil wasn't about slavery, it was about taxation - but slavery was part of that since it underpinned many parts of the economy.

When slaves were freed, they were left jobless. Whites wouldn't hire them, and the plantations were basically destroyed - more than a million starved. We are all taught a load of propaganda about the era.

Lincoln really was a tyrant. It's a pity he wasn't murdered much earlier in his presidency. Slavery, for blacks was ended as a result of the Civil War, but it was unnecessary. The war happened because of economic predation on the South.

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22   MasterJack   @   2023 Mar 3, 9:22am  

stfu says

No study of Lincoln would be complete without reading one of Thomas DiLorenzo's books on the subject. His hatred of the man is a good balance to the 99% positive coverage in print.

Lincoln was clearly of high intellect but, IMO, a bit of a sociopath and a benefactor to the railroads and banks. It is very hard to catch him in a lie because he was so good at parsing words. Probably one of the most clever orators to ever take the stage in this country (Franklin may have been in the same league).

He absolutely did things that dictators do (ex. closing hundreds of newspapers and suspending habeas corpus for his enemies), but that didn't make him a dictator. He said he would have done anything - ANY.THING. - to preserve the union and he used slavery as a tool but held no moral high ground on the subject. Typical of sociopaths he felt his ends justified any means. At the same time I do not think he held aspirations of a lifetime presidency. For all of his flaws ...


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Thomas DiLorenzo conveniently forgot to tell his readers that the Confederate Constitution nationalized slavery permanently with no where to ever go to get free. Article IV.

Confederate Constitution ratified March 11, 1861
ARTICLE IV
- Perpetual Slavery:
Sec. 2. (I) The citizens of each State shall be entitled to all the privileges and immunities of citizens in the several States; and shall have the right of transit and sojourn in any State of this Confederacy, with their slaves and other property; and the right of property in said slaves shall not be thereby impaired.
- No where to hide from the slave masters:
(3) No slave or other person held to service or labor in any State or Territory of the Confederate States, under the laws thereof, escaping or lawfully carried into another, shall, in consequence of any law or regulation therein, be discharged from such service or labor; but shall be delivered up on claim of the party to whom such slave belongs,. or to whom such service or labor may be due.
- Expansion of Slavery:
Sec. 3. (I) Other States may be admitted into this Confederacy by a vote of two-thirds of the whole House of Representatives and two-thirds of the Senate, the Senate voting by States; but no new State shall be formed or erected within the jurisdiction of any other State, nor any State be formed by the junction of two or more States, or parts of States, without the consent of the Legislatures of the States concerned, as well as of the Congress.
- Empire of Slaves:
(3) The Confederate States may acquire new territory; and Congress shall have power to legislate and provide governments for the inhabitants of all territory belonging to the Confederate States, lying without the limits of the several Sates; and may permit them, at such times, and in such manner as it may by law provide, to form States to be admitted into the Confederacy. In all such territory the institution of negro slavery, as it now exists in the Confederate States, shall be recognized and protected be Congress and by the Territorial government; and the inhabitants of the several Confederate States and Territories shall have the right to take to such Territory any slaves lawfully held by them in any of the States or Territories of the Confederate States.

The destruction of the united States was the mission of the Confederate States of America.

March 21, 1861
“The process of disintegration in the old Union may be expected to go on with almost absolute certainty if we pursue the right course. We are now the nucleus of a growing power which, if we are true to ourselves, our destiny, and high mission, will become the controlling power on this continent.“ - Alexander H. Stephens Confederate V.P.
23   MasterJack   @   2023 Mar 3, 11:33am  

Tenpoundbass says

MasterJack says



Dear Sirs:
A Mr. John Sherman has written us from a town in Ohio, U.S.A., as to the profit that may be made in the National Banking business, under a recent act of your Congress; a copy of this act accompanies this letter.

Apparently this act has been drawn up on the plan formulated here by the British Bankers Association, and by that Association recommended to our American friends, as one that if enacted into law, would prove highly profitable to the banking fraternity throughout the world.

Mr. Sherman declares that there has never been such an opportunity for capitalists to accumulate money as that presented by this act. It gives the National Bank almost complete control of the National finance.

“The few who understand the system,” he says, “will either be so interested in its profits, or so dependent on its favors that there will be no opposition from ...

My source of information is from Antony C. Sutton
"The Federal Reserve Conspiracy"
"Energy - The Created Crisis"
"The War on Gold"
"America's Secret Establishment" - Skull & Bones

When Andrew Jackson "Killed the Banks" what he killed was the Second National Bank ... America's National Bank which then gave private banking free run to destroy the "American System" AmericanSystemNow.com. Lincoln tried to revive the America's National Bank, and the "American System" but was usurped by London Bankers and the British Monarchy during America's Civil War ... then they killed him.

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