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annoying expat wannabes


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2023 Feb 8, 8:17am   988 views  13 comments

by clambo   ➕follow (2)   💰tip   ignore  

I'm just ranting, it must be the coffee.
I joined some expat groups in Baja Sur, Mexico with the intention of helping my Mexican friend sell a couple things to people who have money to buy things.
However, I see tons of idiotic posts from "expert" expats who 1. don't speak Spanish 2. are recent residents 3 live in a bubble of English speakers 4. try to brag about ttheir "local knowledge" to others.
My neighbor is a nice guy but he makes his living making YouTubes about being "almost retired in Mexico" and continues with the fiction that Baja Sur is Mexican; part of the charm of Baja is its history of isolation from mainland Mexico and the horrors of the mainland too numerous to describe.
There is a shopping area with a Walmart, Sams, Autozone, and across the street Liverpool (think Macys) Home Depot, Soriana (think low rent Walmart).
There are NO traffic signals here; it's a nightmare intersection of stop signs; this is actually pretty typical in La Paz.
In La Paz there are actually just a few roads and they don't have signals where they are desperately needed.
The neighbor posted a YouTube of his drone video of the intersection, with no crashes and said it worked well and was one of the quaint things he liked about La Paz.
I saw it completely jammed in all directions and traffic paralyzed but he and another dope said it 'flows better" without signals.
They both argued with me on Facebook about my lack of appreciation for quaint local customs; maybe they like rooster fights too?
Expats also tell you to leave if you don't like loud music at 4am from drunken neighbors, or trash or dogs, and other signs of no civilization.
They also say "crime is not bad" because they've not gone to places where entire cities and states are under criminal gang control; you can be kidnapped for ransom.
Why am I here you ask? I previously lived and worked here so I have some old friends whom I have visited since I left for California 40 years ago.
The weather is very nice for 8+ months per year, people are friendly and are nice to me because I speak Spanish, the restaurants are fun, I enjoy scuba diving and the beach.
Edit: fun stuff to see and do; mule rides into the wilderness to see giant cave paintings; whale watching in several lagoons, or the sea of cortez; snorkeling with whale sharks, snorkeling or diving with sea lions at an unihabited island; hiking to waterfalls and swimming holes; ideal climate on the pacific side 11 months of the year; tiny old mining town in the mountains, etc.
Edit 2: In many ways it reminds me of growing up spending summer in Martha's Vineyard since the late 1950's; the locals didn't consider the summer people "islanders" by any means, but some people moved there and adpoted their dress and habits and tried to pretend that they were islanders.
My mother could pass because she grew up in a small farming town in another state and she worked the same jobs the islanders did (storekeeper, caregiver).

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1   ElYorsh   2023 Feb 8, 8:53am  

Hate to break it to you, but Baja Sur is the biggest cartel hub in Mexico. Currently Sinaloa Cartel has control. If another cartel takes hold, kidnapping for ransom follows.
2   Al_Sharpton_for_President   2023 Feb 8, 8:54am  

You're in Mexico. Buy a machine gun and a few grenades to take care of those pesky expats. An M16 with grenade launcher should do it.


3   B.A.C.A.H.   2023 Feb 8, 9:04am  

clambo says

"expert" expats

Same here in the SF Bay Area.

So many immigrants, particulary from Asia, who have never lived outside of our liberal, artsy-fartsy bubble but are experts on life in the US.
4   Tenpoundbass   2023 Feb 8, 10:49am  

Oh the Horror people from another country moving to your country, and not giving a shit enough about your rules, and customs to learn them, and not even speak your language.
It's like they think Mexico is America or something.

Who gives a fuck, if I were in Mexico, it would be stretch my retirement dollars as far as I could, not to please local expiate cultural hipsters.
5   DhammaStep   2023 Feb 8, 10:49am  

Reading your post, I related on a visceral level. Where I am, we call them "transplants." They behave very much the same way you describe. All of the city's problems are just quaint character to them as they're removed from the realities of their own voting ways. I know it's not a competition but in some ways these transplants are worse. They come here and broadcast worldwide (because they tend to go work in media) that we all love their bullshit degeneracy that they came to fill our city with because their own homes wouldn't put up with them. Natives despise them but we have to put up with them because they have money, otherwise our whole bloated infrastructure collapses (well, collapses even more). They're also waging war against real diversity (diversity of ideas) here and replacing it with shallow psychopath diversity. It's a curse.
6   clambo   2023 Feb 8, 11:05am  

I wonder where DhammaStep resides?
7   DhammaStep   2023 Feb 8, 11:11am  

clambo says

I wonder where DhammaStep resides?

Truly a mystery! ;)
8   clambo   2023 Feb 8, 11:14am  

So it's a city invaded by psychos; Austin, TX or Boise, ID, or Portland OR, Bozeman, MT......
9   Ceffer   2023 Feb 8, 11:14am  

I'm too paranoid to live in Mexico, even though selected places are reputedly fine. Places that used to be reputedly fine are now dangerous, kidnaps, cartels etc. I think unless you have a solid evacuation plan with ready go bags and helipads, you shouldn't be there except on selected vacation. That's too bad, because so much of Mexico is amazing. Also, when I have been there, I have watched the gringos acting like total assholes and loud drunks, which doesn't bode well for native resentments (Ugly American and all that).

Supposedly, all the elderly eventually move back because they get to the point that they need rapid access to US style medical care (and that's acknowledging that Mexico does have some top flight medical facilities).
10   clambo   2023 Feb 8, 3:09pm  

Strangely enough, Canadians like the medical services around here; they don't have to wait 6 months-1 year to have a procedure done.
11   NuttBoxer   2023 Feb 8, 4:55pm  

When I lived in Playas(TJ), I had a neighbor blasting music at like 2am working on his car on a weekday. I walked across the street and asked them to turn it down. They did. Fuck that shit, that's not Mexican, it's just assholes.

I prefer driving in TJ because if you don't want to obey traffic signals or signs, you don't, and no one gives a shit. But if you've got that much traffic, seems like something is needed.

If you don't speak spanish, you're a gabacho, not an expat.
12   brazil66   2023 Feb 8, 7:43pm  

Clambo writes:

In many ways it reminds me of growing up spending summer in Martha's Vineyard since the late 1950's; the locals didn't consider the summer people "islanders" by any means, but some people moved there and adpoted their dress and habits and tried to pretend that they were islanders.

Yep. I went to Maui with my family last spring break, and I got that same feeling at Lahaina Harbor. Well-to-do white dudes with tribal tattoos sitting in the lineup thinking that they're Hawaiian. Never gonna happen.
13   PeopleUnited   2023 Feb 9, 4:29am  

But what if they identify as Hawaiian?

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