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General Ivashov: "I fucking told you so"


               
2023 Feb 21, 1:26pm   7,086 views  42 comments

by Eric_Holder   follow (0)  




Vladimir Putin is leading Russia to defeat and humiliation in Ukraine, according to one of Moscow's most respected military figures, who also blames the President for uniting the West with his disastrous invasion.

Retired army colonel-general Leonid Ivashov had called for the president's resignation a year ago before the war started over a 'criminal' policy in 'provoking' an 'artificial' conflict, foreseeing it would trigger disaster.

Now he says the carnage across the border is worse than he imagined.

Ivashov, chairman of the independent All-Russian Officers' Assembly and a former top aide to a famous Soviet defence minister, lambasted Putin, declaring: 'We did not expect such a series of mistakes, wrong actions during this military operation.'

'What happened in the end? Basically what we expected, but much worse,' said the general, a key figure in the Soviet-era Red Army and later the Russian military, in an interview with Republic independent media.

At the operational-tactical level, we did not think that within a year we would not be able to liberate the Donetsk and Luhansk regions.

'We did not think that there would be such heavy losses, although I then said there would be tens of thousands of dead on both sides.

'But everything turned out to be much worse.'

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'It was not expected that there would be such destruction: in fact, entire small towns and villages were demolished to their foundations,' Ivashov said.

'Further, I wrote that we would find ourselves a pariah state, but, frankly, I did not think that we would not have a single ally that has serious influence on the political, economic or military-technical level.'

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'Russia in such a picture of the world is not mentioned at all as a political player,' he said. 'So now they will create a bipolar world, but without our participation.'

Putin's disastrous invasion of Ukraine had 'saved NATO' with Finland and Sweden due to join, he continued. 'We have delivered the whole of Europe into the hands of the Americans…' due to Putin's ineptness.

'There was no Collective West before, there were a lot of contradictions there. And today we are creating this Collective West with our own hands.'

Ivashov said Putin blundered by not properly seeking other solutions in Donetsk and Luhansk, before launching his invasion.

'Did we raise this issue at the UN General Assembly? No! We immediately moved tanks there. Every problem has multiple solutions. And most importantly - do not choose the worst. But we, unfortunately, chose the worst.'

He also scathingly criticised Putin for the use of private armies in the conflict, stressing it leads to confused command structures.

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11748817/Ukraine-Retired-Russian-general-says-Putin-leading-country-defeat-humiliation.html

PS. Same guy one year ago: https://nypost.com/2022/02/07/ex-russia-general-warns-putin-against-criminal-ukraine-invasion/

PPS. BTW, I remember we used to have a thread on his last year's open letter but I can't find it on the site anymore. Censored?

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38   richwicks   2023 Feb 23, 5:53pm  

WookieMan says

richwicks says


The US just engaged in an act of war by blowing up the Nordstream pipeline

Actual proof. Not a link. Give me actual proof that it happened and the US did it?


This is in the category of "duh".


original link


Two unexploded mines were REPORTEDLY found. Maybe that's a lie, but you HARDLY need that. It's so unbelievably stupid to think that Russia would blow up their OWN infrastructure. It's like if you had a dispute with your electricity provider and one day, the utility pole going to your house blows up.

It's a MYSTERY who did it? Was it you? Nah, I'm sure the power company did it, instead of just turning off your power.

How dumb do you have to be at this point to believe the US at this point? They lie about EVERYTHING and the lies are so stupid.

I'm sitting here thinking, "he must be trolling me" which I hope is true but then there's the part of me that thinks "are people REALLY this gullible?"

Get your booster, I mean the vaccines don't work, they are known to be at least slightly dangerous, they don't keep you from spreading the virus, or contracting it, it doesn't even seem to reduce symptoms, in fact it might make you MORE vulnerable to the disease, but I mean, you'll believe any nonsense if this government says it.
39   fdhfoiehfeoi   2023 Feb 23, 5:55pm  

WookieMan says

Actual proof. Not a link. Give me actual proof that it happened and the US did it?


I'm sorry, not a link meaning you want us to mail you the CIA's plans? Every credible news source agrees we did it. The only one's who deny it want you injected, raising a Ukraine flag on your front lawn, and paying your taxes directly to Zelensky.
40   Onvacation   2023 Feb 23, 6:24pm  

richwicks says

What goods and services does Russia NEED from Europe?

None.

Oil will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no oil.
41   richwicks   2023 Feb 23, 6:33pm  

Onvacation says

Oil will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no oil.


Exactly.

As long as Russia has fertilizer, can produce food, has energy, has raw resources, and can build enough armaments to stave off any invasion (not that I expect them to be invaded), they'll do just fine. I can't think of anything that the West produces that Russia needs. Maybe they want the newest iPhone? The only thing the west produces are things that are basically luxury items, well, not luxury, but convenience to be certain.

At the end of this stupid war, I think Russia will be more economically independent, and maybe even less corrupt.

Russia should get to work building their own CPU. Maybe they should actually develop a RISC-V system? China has the fabs. China also already has some proprietary CPUs, I think their largest super computer uses one of their proprietary architectures.
42   Reality   2023 Feb 23, 7:11pm  

Javelin missile went into service in 1996, so the CPU requirement in it is no more than 486/Pentium level. Pretty sure both Russia and China can churn out those 0.5-1 micron (500 to 1000nm) processors in vast numbers. What Russian and Chinese military don't have is combat experience. The criminal Biden administration has been giving them plenty practice during this Ukraine nonsense, while whittling down the reserve of combat experienced veterans in the West (and mandating clot shots on the latter).

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