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You are part of the problem with AI


               
2023 Mar 6, 6:51pm   2,154 views  24 comments

by whitewater   follow (0)  

AI promises you will make more $$$ and have more convenience.

AI will do this but what is the trade off?

Human extinction.

Why? Humans presently are not mature enough to handle and develop AI wisely. The average of human consciousness must advance to a point that the average can handle the power of AI.

Will you stop AI deployment until you and your customers advance their consciousness?

No? That’s why the world is soon to be another Easter island.

Yes? You are the rare person able to delay gratification and have a view similar to God.

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15   fdhfoiehfeoi   @   2023 Mar 7, 8:21am  

whitewater says

Human extinction.


Horse shit. The Skynet moment is a complete farce. The algorithms currently touted as AI are not even capable of what the Joshua did in the movie War Games. We have immediate threats to our lives, and it's OTHER HUMANS. Not robots.
16   Tenpoundbass   @   2023 Mar 7, 8:27am  

Yep when those Boston Dynamic Robot Dogs start trotting down the streets, and shooting up the Trump supporters. It will have a bunch of pink haired gender confused Commie Fags at a remote location working the controls.
17   RWSGFY   @   2023 Mar 7, 9:08am  

Yawn. In 2017 every media outlet was screaming on top of their lungs that every new car or truck will be self-driving by 2021-22.
18   Tenpoundbass   @   2023 Mar 7, 9:18am  

Within five years the current Car Battery platform will be outlawed by most Governments around the world.
Unless there's a new way to make car batteries, it will spell the end of Lithium battery arrays in cars. Not to say we wont see cars with many Marine batteries.
19   Tenpoundbass   @   2023 Mar 7, 9:25am  

LOL speaking of Gab's Image AI, I have noticed that in the last couple weeks since the launch. Most of the times when I go to the site, I just get a black screen while the page spins and tries to load. My guess is too many people thinking the all knowing Gab AI is "Creating" art work for them.
20   Rin   @   2023 Mar 7, 11:37pm  

richwicks says

We're about to find out about creativity,


Considering that the much of today's pop music is manufactured by a handful of music producers, replacing 'em w/ any sort of automation isn't much of a step forward.

The 90s are over!

HeadSet says

AI was a thing in the 1980s


I'd say that it's a bit different from back then. Today, there is a need to get rid of software testers, account auditors, actuarial support, business analysts, etc. Those are expensive headcounts and companies like to run lean.

Now, where it's been oversold is in areas like self-driving cars or trucks. I mean, really, how many municipalities esp in the midwest & northeast, where weather conditions are terrible, are going to let vehicles crash into each other during snowstorms, flash showers, icy roads, etc. I mean that public relations disaster outside of sunny Phoenix, where a pedestrian was run over while an automated Uber was being driven by a distracted backup driver, has really made towns and cities rethink the use of deathmobiles in their municipalities.
21   richwicks   @   2023 Mar 9, 8:29pm  

Rin says

I mean, really, how many municipalities esp in the midwest & northeast, where weather conditions are terrible, are going to let vehicles crash into each other during snowstorms, flash showers, icy roads, etc. I mean that public relations disaster outside of sunny Phoenix, where a pedestrian was run over while an automated Uber was being driven by a distracted backup driver, has really made towns and cities rethink the use of deathmobiles in their municipalities.


It should be measured by fatalities per mile in localized regions. It may be that although AI self driving vehicles might very well kill people, it may be at a lower rate than people do.

We could make entirely safe self driving vehicles but it would require an overhaul of the entire road system, a REPLACEMENT of the entire road system. I don't believe in early adoption. Let's wait until we have a fully working well tested system in a small locality, that we cannot improve (actually let's have several competitors), and then implement it.

We ARE topping out in technology, I think. We're about as small as we can get in silicon, unless there's some mega breakthrough. It's possible we'll be making cubes of chips instead of flat chip processors. That will change the game, for about 3 years.
22   HeadSet   @   2023 Mar 9, 8:42pm  

richwicks says

We ARE topping out in technology,

That "everything that can be invented, has been invented" mindset has been around since the 1800s and is constantly proven wrong. The next thinking machines may be bio-based.
23   richwicks   @   2023 Mar 9, 9:01pm  

HeadSet says


richwicks says


We ARE topping out in technology,

That "everything that can be invented, has been invented" mindset has been around since the 1800s and is constantly proven wrong. The next thinking machines may be bio-based.



Yeah, well, I'm not saying everything that can be invented has been invented, I'm saying that we're hitting the limit of how small we can make a chip, and that's 99.999% of the problem of increasing the speed of a computer chip, and also, there's no real need to make a faster computer chip.

We live in a time where a raspberry pi toy computer is capable of ENTIRELY replacing a mainframe VMS/VAX Dec mainframe that 3,000 students shared simultaneously. It's a $100. It can trivially handle all the functions that the million dollar mainframe I worked on back in 1990.

I'm not kidding at all when I point out an $11 SD Card can contain more books than you can read in your lifetime. Everything you CAN learn can be stored on that. You can put a library of books on that, you can't possibly go through if you read 24 hours a day from 0 to 100 if you read at 10 times the speed you read now. I can put more music on it than you can listen to in a year, I can put a month's worth of film on it. That device will be around $5 in a year or two.

You really don't understand where we are at. Somebody in 1990 with a huge library of music, films, television shows, and books - that all fits on an $11 device. Of course, the device starts to lose information integrity in about 10 years though. DVDs and CDs start to break down in about 20 regardless of how carefully you treat them.
24   WookieMan   @   2023 Mar 9, 9:45pm  

Tenpoundbass says


It's a glorified Paint Shop Pro filter. Graphics filters have been incredible for decades, not only that in Photo Shop you could write scripts that would process and render images based on your input. You do realize, that these AI images are just applying filters to images that they have in a digital library. It's not like AI is rendering images from scratch. And if you believe that to be the case, then you really need to turn off all devices and step away from the ledge

Good example as someone that used photoshop in the past to automate my process instead of editing individual photos. Knew my gear and knew my settings I wanted to produce the photos I wanted, sometimes hundreds in say 10 min after figuring out my scripts. Maybe do some final touchups on the photos I wanted to display.

The other part is that AI can't take the actual photos. Someone still needs to understand, at least professionals the settings, lighting, etc. Cameras are fine for basic tracking if they're say at a stoplight. Some are good enough for facial recognition. You're definitely not getting appealing photos. Just high resolution photo/video to track license plates and in some cities your face.

The tracking part is the scariest. Then the mind control thing is what I'd agree with Rich on. People are mostly too dumb to spot bullshit in digital content. Anyone ever meet Joe Biden? Go to a rally? See him at a town hall? Nope, you just see him on TV or the internet. Joe Biden literally may be dead and we'd have no clue. He's the least present POTUS in my living memory. He didn't even campaign. I'm not saying that's happening, but what's stopping it from happening? We already know they've staged videos from a fake White House room.

The privacy and not knowing what is real anymore are the biggest issues. Someone could create a simulation of a nuclear explosion in Ukraine and people might buy it. If there's enough uproar, we end up with boots on the ground and testing out our military toys. We have an ongoing war between Ukraine and Russia, and no one is filming actual battles? We just see wrecked buildings that were probably already that way 2 years ago. It doesn't make sense. There's no journalist sitting in a fox hole or bushes filming the war. Nope they sit in a 5 star hotel 100 miles away from danger and pretend it's awful wearing a bullet proof vest before getting a massage at the spa.

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