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Maybe I need to move to Tennessee - IF they actually enforce this law.

We have lots of laws that are ignored after all.


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Why isn't that mother fucker in jail? Well, we don't have a system of laws, we have a system of men. That's why. Hunter Biden should be in jail just like every poor asshole that was caught smoking crack.

Tennessee's passed a lot of pro-state legislation lately. The only issues are:

1. The states already have these rights under the Constitution, leading to..
2. Regardless of legislation, you have to be willing to physically enforce what you want. Is Tennessee willing to take that step?

cisTits says

Why does any state need an air National Guard with fighter jets anyway?

Disagree. What is protecting the Midwest near me? Our largest defensive base is in Central Wisconsin just north of Maustin, WI. National guard. Minneapolis, MN, Duluth, MN, Miwaukee, WI, Chicago, etc are basically defenseless without it. Nukes aren't shooting down enemy jets in the Dakotas and Montana.

Not Canada itself, as they're useless, but an attack by air is coming from there first and shut down the Mississippi if whoever did it was intelligent. Blow up a couple dams/lifts on the river and you shut down most of the natural resources 80% of the country gets domestically. Ore, LNG, crops, etc... You guys in the coastal areas have it easy with Naval, Air Force and other armed services in your back yard. Russia or China would be retarded to attack CA first or the East coast. You shut down the Missouri or Mississippi river everyone on this forum is fucked. You won't have food or materials to produce anything domestically.

10 stealth bombers could take out this entire country in 90 minutes or at least cripple/kill 80% that aren't prepared. It's not about cities and killing civilians in war. It's infrastructure. Hence why no one has dropped a nuke in 80 years. Americans are not ready to live without electric and food and it's literally 40 bombs away from happening. We just had a fucking balloon float across our country. It's not impossible to get high altitude bombers with targeted missiles to shut down domestic trade.

So yeah, I'll take the National Guard with jets near(ish) to me.

cisTits says

WHAT the States need to do is establish their own state militias separate from the national guard. Some have but they are not funded well and are small.

THIS. And no more Katrina bullshit when the State's National Guard is fully deployed to a non-war "Police Action" overseas and unavailable.

AmericanKulak says

cisTits says

WHAT the States need to do is establish their own state militias separate from the national guard. Some have but they are not funded well and are small.

THIS. And no more Katrina bullshit when the State's National Guard is fully deployed to a non-war "Police Action" overseas and unavailable.

I'm okay with militias, but National Guard by me does serve a defense function. Makes no sense in NOLA. You're surrounded by military that is fully capable of helping with choppers, vehicles, troops etc. Non-coastal areas don't have that luxury.

Like I said hypersonic stealth bombers could drop 40 targeted bombs in 90 minutes knocking out all the dams and lifts on the Mississippi. Hit a couple rail bridges. Do it in September and you no longer have grocery stores by January across the entire country as crops sit in storage. You'll run out of beef, corn, soybeans, wheat, minerals, etc. We frankly need more military along the MS and Missouri rivers. IL river is another choke point connecting the Great Lakes from the Atlantic to the Gulf.

cisTits says

Oh, the are now calling them State Defense Forces. Or Wikipedia is because militias are 'white supremacist hate groups'.

The Constitution instructs states to maintain militias. That was one of the worse things that happened from the OKC false flag, the demonization of militias.

WookieMan says

I'm okay with militias, but National Guard by me does serve a defense function. Makes no sense in NOLA. You're surrounded by military that is fully capable of helping with choppers, vehicles, troops etc. Non-coastal areas don't have that luxury.

Not in 2005 they weren't. Most state NG units and ALL of the LA Nat Guard units with heavy equipment (EDIT: 256th Seperate Infantry Brigade) were deployed in Iraq. Ohio Wisconsin and Oklahoma Guard had to be called up and then drive for two+ days to get to New Orleans. There wasn't enough military to establish order in New Orleans for 4 days after landfall.

This was after Bush and the GOPe congress spent hundreds of billions on "Emergency Prep" regarding Nuclear, Biological, or Chemical Attacks, huge buys of equipment, consultants galore, etc.and promised America that the Homeland was now much more secure. Couldn't handle a fairly Gulf Hurricane that was nowhere near the worst.

A State Militia can certainly have heavy trucks, bulldozers, and other needful things - and can't be deployed overseas.

In NOLA, National Guard units either left their equipment in Iraq for another unit, or left equipment back in the States with nobody to man them, during the Iraq War.

All National Guard units are controlled by the Pentagon; Courts have already upheld the unlimited control of DC over State National Guard Units back in the 80s when Minnesota Bolsheviks didn't want some of theirs deployed to train anti-communist forces in Central America.

A completely state-run militia/defense force is both Constitutional and outside DC's control, only answerable to and deployable by the State Government.

WookieMan says

So yeah, I'll take the National Guard with jets near(ish) to me.

First, what's the greatest threat to our safety and freedom? I don't mean hypothetically, I mean in our lifetime, who's done more to destroy our freedoms and enslave us? China, Russia, or the federal government? He who trades freedom for security deserves neither - Franklin.

Second, you don't need a jet, or nukes to cripple this country. An EMP would do it.

But third, and most important to you. No war in history has ever been won, no territory conquered without ground troops. See Vietnam, or any of the wars in Afghanistan.

NuttBoxer says

Second, you don't need a jet, or nukes to cripple this country. An EMP would do it.

I'll address this first. Yeah, it would be a shitty week, no doubt. It wouldn't cripple the country permanently. And it wouldn't be the whole country. Long term damage is more effective. Blowing up 10 dams in 3 rivers would be substantially more devastating long term. Millions would die and the effects could last a decade. The West coast doesn't get shit without rail and the Mississippi mainly. West coast ports are generally consumer products. You guys cannot even collect the shitload of snowmelt you're going to get this spring.



This is where your food comes from. The river, rail or bridges get hit it's 2 years at least. An EMP would be fixed in a month. Timed right you don't have food for 1 year at least in my scenario. Quick damage isn't the best in war. Infrastructure.

NuttBoxer says

First, what's the greatest threat to our safety and freedom? I don't mean hypothetically, I mean in our lifetime, who's done more to destroy our freedoms and enslave us? China, Russia, or the federal government? He who trades freedom for security deserves neither - Franklin.

China. Federal government doesn't move me besides taxes. I'm not enslaved to anyone. I literally do what I want when I want as long as it doesn't harm others (sometimes). Corporations are the bigger issue. I could probably count the hours on two hands that I ever followed covid mandates. The airport at TSA. I got bitched at once on an actual plane. Fact is everyone imagines they're being suppressed. That's because they want to be suppressed.

Have you ever told an "authority" to fuck off and just move along? Got caught with drugs and just ate it at the airport? Guess what, they don't do anything. No one does anything unless you're a famous person. Confidence is a thing. Most people don't have it.

I've told the story here. I demolished the side of a car with an unopened beer. Absolutely chucked it 70mph+. Cops interrogated my Puerto Rican neighbors for a half hour. Came over to the other neighbors where I was I and he asked me what happened. I said I chucked a beer at car because they almost ran over my kids. He was shocked. Thanked me and left. I destroyed an entire door panel on a car. Government is not out to get you unless you let it.

The common theme with people that bitch about our government is they're afraid of it. Or they don't have the legal means IF something were to happen. 99% of the time cops don't want to deal with shit. Regulations can be skirted/ignored. People are just too afraid.

NuttBoxer says

But third, and most important to you. No war in history has ever been won, no territory conquered without ground troops. See Vietnam, or any of the wars in Afghanistan.

I've never been about "conquering" territory from another country. I want our country to have defense capabilities and also offensive capability. National Guard is part of that on a defensive end. You have massive bases out in CA. North of Tennessee we're on our own to the Canadian border. We don't need almonds. Corn, wheat and soy keep this country going. The Missouri and Mississippi river valley along with the IL river are what keeps this country going outside of oil and gas production.

At some point you CA sons a bitches are going to pipeline the Great Lakes and take our water. Maybe not in my lifetime, but it's going to happen. Or you'll move here and bring your bull shit. Honestly I'm beginning to think the greatest threat to America is California...

WookieMan says

It wouldn't cripple the country permanently.

So how many people do you know who can draw clean water without working electric? How many trucks and trains contain zero electrical components? What about farm equipment? And I didn't come up with this threat in my head, I first head it from a retired general turned survivalist.

WookieMan says

I'm not enslaved to anyone.

Then use 100% of the money you earn for yourself. Drive your car without a license or insurance. Drive in the Southwest without stopping at any checkpoints. Never wore a mask right? Get an operation while telling them you've never taken a Covid shot. Go to another country without a passport. Buy some drugs without fear of arrest. Buy an automatic M4 and ammo without ID. Only use real money that doesn't lose value by inflation. And probably most importantly, keep your life completely private. No images of you saved anywhere, no conversations recorded. No internet records of you in any NSA data center. You can do all those things right, because you're not enslaved.

WookieMan says

I've never been about "conquering" territory from another country. I want our country to have defense capabilities and also offensive capability.

So right off the bat, you missed the point. As long as we own guns, and know how to use them, no one is conquering the United States. If you want the standing armies, you need the central banks to fund them, and the slavery that comes with it.