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Florida Real Estate Collapse


               
2023 Mar 29, 10:07pm   14,990 views  226 comments

by TheAntiPanicanLearingCenter   follow (9)  

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/640-Pelican-Dr-Satellite-Beach-FL-32937/43447731_zpid/

2015 - Sold For $155k

2/8/2019 Sold $209,000

Now? Asking $400,000
So we're to believe in 4 years, that this house legit went up almost double. Or in a decade went up almost triple.

Another one:
https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/3802-Sunbeam-Ct-Merritt-Island-FL-32953/43404282_zpid/?mmlb=g%2C13

11/25/2013 Sold
$193,500
-3.2%
$98/sqft

2/14/2023 Listed for sale
$514,900
+166.1%
$261/sqft
Source: DBAMLS #1105834 Report a problem

Both of these houses were minimally updated. The first one was built in the 1960s.

I got half dozen more examples. Here's another, it was just under $250k in what looks like a Steelolanogranite Realtor Flip Special in 2019, before COVID. It was purchased late 2018 for under $172k. Now they want almost $500k for it just 5 years later.
https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/356-W-Dover-St-Satellite-Beach-FL-32937/43448773_zpid/

If you're curious, check out Palm Bay and Melbourne on the mainland. 1950s/1960s Space Program small cinderblock specials, some with no Central Air, are going for almost the same as brand new construction much larger and more modern.

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220   TheAntiPanicanLearingCenter   2025 Dec 15, 9:36pm  




Interestingly, Colorado. Worse than Florida that got mindblowing way out of hand and still has a ways to go as we enter the Boomexit phase and deportations ramp up.

(this is a forecast for next year, based on recent trends)

I would say the Florida TOURISM market is strong, at least by numbers, with a record 34M+ visiting the state.
222   TheAntiPanicanLearingCenter   2025 Dec 17, 3:06pm  




Rents are collapsing as well. Massive amounts of apartments were built in much of the state.

Countless older Condo buildings on Fannie's blacklist.
223   TheAntiPanicanLearingCenter   2025 Dec 17, 3:14pm  

Welcome to the permanent plateau of the next decade or so:


224   Blue   2026 Jan 3, 10:56pm  

Not sure what lead Florida to go for considering a plan to eliminate property taxes on primary residences!

In my opinion this proposal is as terrible as California 1978 Prop 13, it will have long term consequences and bad for young and all future generations.

AI summary:

Yes, economists and real estate analysts widely agree that eliminating property taxes in Florida would increase property values due to a concept known as tax capitalization.

Expected Impact on Property Values

Overall Increase: An analysis by Realtor.com estimates that a complete elimination of property taxes on owner-occupied homes could lead to an immediate jump in statewide property values by 7% to 9%.
Partial Elimination: If only the non-school portion of property taxes is eliminated (as proposed in some House bills), property values would still increase by an estimated 4% to 5.5%.
Why Values Would Rise

Lower Ownership Costs: Property values are tied to the long-term cost of ownership. By removing or significantly reducing this major ongoing expense, buyers can afford to pay more upfront for a home, pushing sale prices higher.

Increased Demand: Lower ongoing costs would attract more buyers, both in-state and from out of state, increasing overall demand for housing and further driving up prices.
Capitalization: In real estate economics, property taxes are "capitalized" into the home's value. Higher property taxes tend to lower a property's market price, while lower or eliminated taxes raise it.

Potential Consequences

While current homeowners would see an immediate gain in equity, experts warn of potential negative consequences:

Affordability Crisis: The price surge would make it significantly harder for first-time homebuyers and younger families to enter the market.

Burden on Renters: To make up for lost local government revenue, other taxes (such as sales or corporate income taxes) might be raised, and landlords of commercial and rental properties would likely pass their continued tax burden onto tenants through higher rents.

The proposals are currently being debated in the Florida Legislature and would require voter approval in the November 2026 election to become law.
225   Misc   2026 Jan 3, 11:10pm  

The question should be "Why Stop There?"

Why not go full retard and have negative property taxes ???

That would certainly boost up property prices. Sure, some millennials and Gen Z'ers would bitch, but really they are headed for 3rd world status anyways. Then quintuple fees for developers (make them comparable to California). That would give an added boost to property prices.

Then blame those that complain for being lazy.

What could go wrong ???
226   floki   2026 Jan 4, 7:09am  

Noncitizens are not allowed to own landed homes (aka SFH) in some countries while others do allow ownership at much higher tax rates, by law. What would be the pros and cons of this law here ?

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