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So Pat Netters with some lifting experience, is he or is he not doing roids or at least hormone therapy?

https://slate.com/human-interest/2023/06/rfk-jr-shirtless-bench-press-pushup-workout.html

On the one hand he looks great for a guy in his 40's - except he's pushing 70. On another hand he's managing to struggle with 105 lbs. on the incline press and looks to struggle to complete 6 or 7 push ups. So -- body like a weight lifter but very little actual strength?

Not hating, except that I can't afford that sweet hormone therapy that apparently he and sean penn can.

stfu says

On the one hand he looks great for a guy in his 40's - except he's pushing 70. On another hand he's managing to struggle with 105 lbs. on the incline press and looks to struggle to complete 6 or 7 push ups. So -- body like a weight lifter but very little actual strength?

The weight was not 105, it was 115 ... bar weighs 45, plates were two 25s and two 10s. Trust me on this one; the average 40 year old American male would not be able to do ONE rep on a bench press with 115 pounds. Of course, if you work out, that improves dramatically. I give the guy credit for doing what he's doing, instead of allowing himself to turn into a mush ball like most American men are doing.

stfu says

So Pat Netters with some lifting experience, is he or is he not doing roids or at least hormone therapy?

https://slate.com/human-interest/2023/06/rfk-jr-shirtless-bench-press-pushup-workout.html

On the one hand he looks great for a guy in his 40's - except he's pushing 70. On another hand he's managing to struggle with 105 lbs. on the incline press and looks to struggle to complete 6 or 7 push ups. So -- body like a weight lifter but very little actual strength?

Not hating, except that I can't afford that sweet hormone therapy that apparently he and sean penn can.

He could be suffering from the same disease that his uncle JFK had - Addison's disease, which is malfunction/underproduction of the adrenal glands. He's got the jowls, so maybe? If so, lots of potent hormones to counteract the pretty severe effects of the disease.

So I asked my black Democrat musician friend, what does he think about RFK Jr.?
He replied "Who?"
I said "Robert Kennedy Jr. you know he's running for President." He says," I haven't heard anything about that. He running against Trump?"
I said "no, he's one of the field that is primarying Joe Biden, he's polling at 20%."

Now before this conversation, I thought that 20% number might be bullshit like they were saying about Trump in the Summer of 2016. But after realizing just how contained the media can be at sheltering Tim from even realizing that Joe Biden is being primaried.. Then I imagine 80% of the Democrat voters might not know he's even running.

I asked him to listen to a couple of his speeches and report back

Thank you @Tenpoundbass

It's the person-to-person reporting which is the effective antidote to corporate media/CIA poison.

RFK Jr defends himself very well from vaxx Nazis!

https://twitter.com/thechiefnerd/status/1674266437890744323


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Tenpoundbass says

Now before this conversation, I thought that 20% number might be bullshit like they were saying about Trump in the Summer of 2016. But after realizing just how contained the media can be at sheltering Tim from even realizing that Joe Biden is being primaried.. Then I imagine 80% of the Democrat voters might not know he's even running.

Don't you ever find it infuriating that people still listen to corporate "news" and haven't found alternatives after 20 years of them lying about anything and everything?

As Brian Stelter of CNN famously said (I can't find the verbatim quote): "People don't watch the news to get informed. They watch the news to have their biases confirmed and feel better about themselves."

Scott Morefield
@SKMorefield

The Overton Window shift on vaccines caused by RFK Jr. is nothing short of stunning, but it would have never happened were it not for the Covidian overreach on the Covid jab. You did it to yourselves, but thanks, I guess.

Tenpoundbass says

Then I imagine 80% of the Democrat voters might not know he's even running.

Since Biden is not on the NH & Iowa primary ballots, RFK will win both. It will be interesting to see if the media just goes with a total coverage blackout in that case...as in, 80% of Democrats will not even know those primaries even happened.

Trollhole says

if the media just goes with a total coverage blackout in that case...as in, 80% of Democrats will not even know those primaries even happened.

I like where Irony is going with that!

An RFK vs. Trump Presidential Race would be OUR version of a Win-Win, what the NWO tries to do when they have Bush vs. Kerry.

Either way, we make progress on many fronts. RFK will certainly clean house in the Medical Deep State at the least, and be far more reasonable on geopolitics as well.

Watch the full Robert F. Kennedy Jr. NewsNation town hall

https://www.newsnationnow.com/politics/2024-election/rfk-jr-newsnation-town-hall/

(I think he handled himself very well. Gave detailed answers along with explanations. Rare to hear any politician give anything other than a short little scripted soundbite)

Bitcoiner says

He is smart, knowledgeable and can articulate himself very well. Like his views too. You kinda get used to the voice but it is an unfortunate disadvantage. I hope he demolishes Biden.

90% of the people won't listen to the content even if it's good. The voice doesn't project power. It's a weakness. He can easily beat Biden and I think that's about it. Trump would just talk over him. He can't raise his voice. It would be the same thing as JFK and sweaty Nixon in a debate.

Trollhole says

Since Biden is not on the NH & Iowa primary ballots, RFK will win both. It will be interesting to see if the media just goes with a total coverage blackout in that case...as in, 80% of Democrats will not even know those primaries even happened.

Super delegates. The Dems system for electing a nominee is so stupid. I wish RFK luck, but I do think it's a long shot. Biden is just going to ignore him. And he can still be the nominee. No debates. Nothing.

How did we get here? RFK can barely talk. Biden can barely walk OR talk. I don't care about either of their positions. This is what the Democratic party brings to the table? I like RFK's stance on the vax, but he loses soy boy men and left women on that who preached the vaccine. There's a lot of them. I don't "need" a Democrat as a POTUS, it's just like really? This is the cream of the crop?

I think he's going to pick up the Black vote, he's pro affirmative Action.
So you've got a sane sounding Kennedy, that has the Gibaway gene.

I don't know if he's just pandering, or if he really believes that. Perhaps his privileged upbringing its easier for him to feel guilty about it, that most people.
Maybe he did it, to attract more minority interest in him, because he knows the MSM is burying him.
I just want him to be the sane Democrat candidate, the fact that he does or doesn't support affirmative action is still a zero sum game. As it's an old standard cover tune of the Democrat party anyway. So it's got to be baked into every Democrat candidate. At least he doesn't carry all of the commie America hating luggage the rest of the field is schleping.

Patrick says

Thank you Tenpoundbass

It's the person-to-person reporting which is the effective antidote to corporate media/CIA poison.

Well I spoke to Tim today, he said he gave RFK Jr. a listen, and as he grunted and vocal fried(A tell that he doesn't really believe what he is saying, it's just a position he probably heard on The Young Turks) I don't know, he sounds too right wing to me... I said what on his antivax views. I told him how none of them have been through a long term trial study, and there are several that for sexually active drug users, why are we giving 3 year olds that vaccine? I also told him that he came out against the Affirmative Action ruling, he said it was wrong. Tim said "It was WRONG!".

Oh how the mighty has fallen, the Tim I once knew before Donald Trump ran for office. Was the top in his field locally as a phone solicitor, he made thousands a week. He never thought of himself as a victim of racial happenstance back then. His collogues were New York Italians and Jews that praised him for his phone prowess. He once told me about a story where he cornered the Beef Market one month in America. It made his company so much money, that the owner closed shop and retired the next month. He he got was a huge bonus on top of his commission.. He retired from that work about the time Donald Trump ran for office, and he's claimed victimhood status since then.

I did tell Tim that if he didn't even know Biden was being primaried, because the Left is such a Communist anti information regime. Then we can hope nobody else does either.
Tim said, I just thought he was running unopposed. I said I know, who shows up at a primary with only one unopposed candidate?

https://americanfaith.com/u-s-health-and-human-services-admits-no-childhood-vaccine-has-undergone-pre-licensing-safety-studies-robert-f-kenendy-jr-proves-watch/

U.S. Health and Human Services Admits No Childhood Vaccine Has Undergone Pre-Licensing Safety Studies, Robert F. Kenendy Jr. Proves (Watch)

Democrat 2024 U.S. Presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. (RFK Jr.) revealed to NewsNation’s Elizabeth Vargas that the U.S. government has admitted that there are no records of pre-licensing safety data for any childhood vaccine.

Kennedy sat before an audience of American voters for his first town hall with a national news network.

Vargas asked Kennedy about “one of the biggest controversies” surrounding his candidacy, namely his stance on childhood vaccines.

“Nearly every scientific and medical organization including the CDC, the FDA, the AMA, the American Academy of Pediatrics—all say you’re wrong on this issue,” Vargas claimed, before allowing an audience member to tell Kennedy his stance on vaccines is “dangerous.”

“Medical experts are deeply concerned about your message,” claims the audience member, who was said to be a doctor himself. “How can we help you to come to the side of science?”

RFK Jr. responded, pointing out the ad hominem nature of the audience member’s question.

“I think most people don’t know what my stance is on vaccines,” Kennedy began. “I’ve never been anti-vaccine. And I’ve said that hundreds and hundreds of times, but it doesn’t matter because that is a way of silencing—using a pejorative to describe me is his way of silencing or marginalizing me.”

RFK Jr. emphasized that his position on vaccines is that the drugs should be tested for safety before they are given to children.

“I think virtually every American would agree with my stance on vaccines, which is that vaccines should be tested like other medicines. They should be safety tested. And unfortunately, vaccines are not safety tested,” he argued.

The 2024 presidential contender then pointed out that no vaccine “has ever been subject to a pre-licensing placebo-controlled trial.”

He said: “Of the 72 vaccine doses now mandated essentially mandated—they recommended, but they’re really mandated for American children—none of them, not one, has ever been subject to a pre-licensing placebo-controlled trial.”

“Yes they have,” Vargas interjected before Kennedy corrected her, explaining that former National Institutes of Allergy and Infectious Disease (NIAID) Director Dr. Anthony Fauci and the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HSS) corroborate his position.

“So I met with Dr. Fauci in 2016. And I agreed to go on Trump’s vaccine safety commission,” he continued. “We said to [Fauci], ‘Can you show us one test from any vaccine pre-licensing safety tests?’ And he said, ‘I’ll send it to you. I can’t find one now.'”

“He never did,” Kennedy said. “So we sued him,” adding, “And after a year of litigation and stonewalling, they said that they could not provide a single safety study for any vaccine that is on the childhood schedule—pre-licensing safety study.”

“So anybody who wants to read that can go to the Children’s Health Defense website and you can read HHS’s admission that not a single one has ever been safety tested pre-licensing,” he went on to say.

“What I’ve said is [that] other medicines are required to [provide pre-licensing safety testing], and we should have to do that for vaccines. If I’m wrong, show me the test, show me the study. You won’t be able to because there are none.”

He reasoned, “That means that we don’t know what the long-term risks are, the risk profile of those products.”

Kennedy’s lawsuit shows that in response to his Freedom of Information Act (FIOA) request, HHS confirmed that the Department’s “searches for records did not locate any records” of pre-licensing vaccine safety testing.

HHS conducted “a thorough search of its document tracking systems” as well as “a comprehensive review of all relevant indexes of HHS Secretarial Correspondence records maintained at Federal Records Centers that remain in the custody of HHS.”

“These searches did not locate records responsive to your request, or indications that records responsive to your request and in the custody of HHS are located at Federal Records Centers,” HHS admits in the court document.

HHS was asked to explain how the agency “justifies licensing any pediatric vaccine without first conducting a long-term clinical trial in which the rate of adverse reactions is compared between the subject group and a control group receiving an inert placebo.”

In its response, HHS affirmed that the health body does not collect the safety data because “[i]nert placebo controls are not required to understand the safety profile of a new vaccine, and are thus not required.”

You can read the full lawsuit here...

Patrick says

As Brian Stelter of CNN famously said (I can't find the verbatim quote): "People don't watch the news to get informed. They watch the news to have their biases confirmed and feel better about themselves."

And that is why nobody watches CNN. Stelter was an idiot.

Once people realize they are watching or reading propaganda, bullshit, they stop.

30 years ago, when I was first trying to find information, and listening to "many sources", I remember the awful cognitive dissonance I had. I happened to have a mentor engineer at the time that told me to eliminate my cognitive dissonance when I ran into a problem (great advice!) and it was such good advice, I applied it to everything until 10 years later, I realized there is no news at all in the West.

I was just stunned when the explanation for 9/11 was "Day h8 us 4 Я fweedumb" was the explanation, and nobody said anything. Bush was never challenged on that, although it's BY FAR the stupidest thing I've ever heard come out of a president's mouth, and I pay attention to what Joe Biden says.

Robert F. Kennedy Jr
@RobertKennedyJr

The unfortunate SCOTUS ruling striking down President Biden's #studentloan forgiveness program was the predictable result of Biden's failure to bring Congress together on this issue of crucial importance to young Americans.

Unfortunate? What is unfortunate about protecting innocent taxpayers from the irresponsible choices of students to major in indigenous black lesbian studies?

OK, here is one reason not to vote for Kennedy. I still like Kennedy, but pushing the cost of one group's very bad choices onto taxpayers in general is bad policy.

Robert F. Kennedy Jr
@RobertKennedyJr
·
Jun 29
Regarding the Supreme Court banning affirmative action in higher ed — I know many Americans feel that purely race-based decisions are unfair. However, this feeling misses important context. The effects of racist policies going back centuries are now self-perpetuating.

Affirmative action understands this and uses race-based policies to undo the effects of racist policies.

He's losing me, quickly. Racism is always wrong, especially now.

He's still the closest thing to center.
As Far as the Democrat candidate goes.
Remember both primaries are at stake.

From The Bee:

Biden One-Ups RFK Shirtless Photo By Posting Pantless Photo

Excellent article about RFK Jr.'s recent town hall interview.

I watched the segment referred to in which an angry radical Gay married man attacked RFK on his 'almost' appearance before the Mom's for Liberty group, which the Gay man wrongly stated that they were "against Gay marriage." Kennedy fell all over himself in an attempt to distance himself from this group which merely wants parents to have more say in regards to their children's public education.

Being that Kennedy is running as a Democrat, he's going to be subjected to this type of radical liberal element that has practically taken over the Party. Kennedy is presenting himself as an old style Democrat, which is what the party was under JFK, and to an extent, under his father RFK. It's simply not going to work. Marxism with a strong emphasis on a radicalized social agenda is the Democratic Party platform. They'll steamroll over any other Democrat that gets in their way.

Here's the article from the Daily Signal:

Robert Kennedy Jr. Proves He’s Willing to Bow to the Woke Rage Mob
https://www.dailysignal.com/2023/07/06/robert-kennedy-jr-changes-story-3-times-24-hours-why-he-wouldnt-speak-moms-liberty/

Tenpoundbass says

Remember both primaries are at stake

You better believe they'l have a cardboard cutout of Joe ready to go for 2024. There won't be another candidate, even if he dies.

DhammaStep says

You better believe they'l have a cardboard cutout of Joe ready to go for 2024. There won't be another candidate, even if he dies.

If he dies, it all depends on WHEN he dies.

After the convention, pretty much every state has laws that allow for the parties' national committees to swap out their POTUS and V-POTUS candidates up until a certain date.

That date is usually tied into deadlines to print and distribute the ballots.

So if Joe dies during the primaries, then it will be one of the other candidates on the primary ballot (RFK, Jr, etc) who will sweep the primaries but the DNC can still rig the nomination.

But after the convention but before those deadlines, the DNC will probably pick Kamala and cross their fingers. Or if they want to risk pissing off the black and female base, they will pick Newsom probably.

But if it is past the deadlines, they are screwed. Dead Man will remain on the ballot.

These deadlines are different amongst the states, too. So some states will have Joe and some Kamala or Gavin. The remaining Joe ballots are pretty much Trump ballots.

Pretty much they would still be screwed. The Dems will fight in the courts...even try to get a judge to declare votes for the Dead Man is really for their alternate. Mostly for show for their base.

It would be awesome entertainment for us, though.

richwicks says

BY FAR the stupidest thing I've ever heard come out of a president's mouth, and I pay attention to what Joe Biden says.

Worse than Biden's "Pandemic of the unvaccinated"?

https://twitter.com/alx/status/1677297099006701569

Onvacation says

richwicks says

BY FAR the stupidest thing I've ever heard come out of a president's mouth, and I pay attention to what Joe Biden says.

Worse than Biden's "Pandemic of the unvaccinated"?

That's just obvious propaganda.

I was talking about the explanation for 9/11 happening. We've been fucking with the Middle East for DECADES and after 9/11 happened I was like "surely, now we're going to have to have serious discussion about all our military bases and what we're doing in the middle east" - nope.

https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1677358109981908996

"Ceaseless Escalation": RFK Jr Slams Biden For Sending Cluster Bombs To Ukraine

Presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has blasted Joe Biden’s decision to send cluster bombs to Ukraine, calling it part of a “ceaseless escalation” that is endangering the planet

Kennedy noted in a tweet that former Biden Press Secretary Jen Psaki admitted last year that the use of cluster bombs constitutes a war crime.

“Now President Biden plans to send them to Ukraine. Stop the ceaseless escalation! It is time for peace,” RFK Jr. added.

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/ceaseless-escalation-rfk-jr-slams-biden-sending-cluster-bombs-ukraine

RayAmerica says

“Now President Biden plans to send them to Ukraine. Stop the ceaseless escalation! It is time for peace,” RFK Jr. added.

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/ceaseless-escalation-rfk-jr-slams-biden-sending-cluster-bombs-ukraine

Pertinent video: https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1677436400755527681

Let's see if Biden does..

Hypocrisy is the hallmark of US foreign policy though..

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Just finished reading this book.

Fauci, Gates, and all the other people involved in this scheme should be hanged after a long and thorough trial.

Trollhole says

Looks more like Joe Biden. Not a great illustrator.

RFK Jr. Drops Vaccine Truth Bombs on Fox News; Fauci Hardest Hit

https://rumble.com/v2zdz18-rfk-jr.-drops-vaccine-truth-bombs-on-fox-news-fauci-hardest-hit.html

I don't think this segment is going to sit very well with FOX's Big Pharma advertisers.

RFK Jr.: ‘Climate Change Is Being Used to Control Us Through Fear’

“Climate change is being used to control us through fear. Freedom and free markets are a much better way to stop pollution. Polluters make themselves rich by making the public pay for the damage they do,” RFK Jr. tweeted along with a video of his position on the issue. “You show me a polluter, I’ll show you a fat cat using political clout to escape the discipline of the free market.”

Kennedy said that the “same people” who orchestrated the pandemic lockdowns are driving the fear-based narrative surrounding the climate.

Kennedy recognized that “warming is occurring,” but he disagrees with the establishment’s way to handle the situation.

Kennedy said:

"First of all, let me just say this about climate, I believe that carbon in the atmosphere and methane does increase warming. Look around, you can see it everywhere. Ice caps are melting, etc. The Greenland ice sheet, I spent a lot of time outdoors, and I see that. over 69 years, I’ve seen the changes. And I’ve seen them — the mass migration of animals, of southern animals like black vultures, the northern increase in their ranges. I’ve kept track since I was a kid about when the leaves turn, and it steadily moved up each year. "

He then mentioned that the “intelligence agencies,” “World Economic Forum,” and “billionaires boys’ club at Davos” are using the environment “as a pretext for clamping down totalitarian controls the same way that the COVID crisis was.”
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/07/13/rfk-jr-climate-change-used-control-us-fear/