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There's always Zelensky.

Through the process of elimination we eventually realize the system is broken, and the only logical decision is to stop playing...

RayAmerica says

Patrick,

You dumped RFK Jr. and now Trump. You're running out of candidates.

True. DeSantis hasn't really pissed me off yet.

Trump's an old ringmaster and he ran a pretty good circus. It's hard for me to trust any politician... that ignores what I think are facts. I don't think Trump is stupid and it is hard to believe his views on the vax. He's also too old. It would be nice to have a fresh new generation take over.

What are our current choices?
Trump
DeSantis
RFK
Biden
Tulsi
Some other clowns from deep state, generational politicians, Hollywood actors, and of course the perennials like Romney and Senator Whats_her_face.

My current pick is still Trump though it seems as though the whole thing is political theatre, Trump is an actor, and we are further down the rabbit hole than we realize.

But I'm a conspiracy theorist.

Well...at least we know what we get with Hillary.

RayAmerica says

"Patrick, You dumped RFK Jr. and now Trump. You're running out of candidates."

We still have Tulsi Gabbard.

Patrick says

RayAmerica says

Patrick,

You dumped RFK Jr. and now Trump. You're running out of candidates.

True. DeSantis hasn't really pissed me off yet.

Take a look at what he signed today, out of the country in Israel.

Oh please, stop holding Trump to a standard. He did what nobody else could have done, he won back to back elections and now is going to win a third. He’s the new FDR.

What if he could get RFK as his running mate? It would be such a target rich environment that Sirhan wouldn’t know who to cap first!

ForcedTQ says

Take a look at what he signed today, out of the country in Israel.

Here is the text as passed:
https://www.flsenate.gov/Session/Bill/2023/269/BillText/er/PDF

Find me where Israel, Zionists, Jews, Holocaust, etc. is mentioned.

In fact, it's a great law:

* It provides penalties for those harassing people for wearing Crucifixes, "Irish and Proud" or "Christ Is King" or "Christopher Columbus: Italian Hero" shirts and specifically protects those exercising freedom of expression for being harassed or intimidated. Christians are far and away the most harassed group in the USA, to the point where several schools were trying to ban pro-abstinence shirts.
https://www.christianpost.com/news/fla-school-asks-student-to-change-abstinence-shirt.html

* Makes it illegal to use projectors to display Pride Flags on Churches or any other buildings without the landowner's permission - a Leftist tactic gaining popularity

* It provides additional penalties for those who deliberately dump trash on private property to harass a person or institution.

* Makes it a crime to go to a Public Institution - like a University - for the express purpose of harassing an individual - NOT for generally protesting an idea or concept.
https://www.foxnews.com/media/college-riley-gaines-attacked-fire-canceling-conservative-event-assault-free-speech
https://nypost.com/2019/04/13/conservative-speaker-michael-knowles-attacked-by-protester-at-missouri-college-campus/

“Credible threat” means a verbal or nonverbal threat, or a combination of the two, including threats delivered by electronic communication or implied by a pattern of conduct, which places the person who is the target of the threat in reasonable fear for his or her safety or the safety of his or her family members or individuals closely associated with the person, and which is made with the apparent ability to carry out the threat to cause such harm. It is not necessary to prove that the person making the threat had the intent to actually carry out the threat. The present incarceration of the person making the threat is not a bar to prosecution under this section.
--->
"Oy vey, this physically fit goyim approached me to have stern words about my support for Israel- I feared for my life! Sayanim Shitwood, arrest this man and bring him before my cousin, judge Schlomo. Fire up the presses and remember the six gorillion!"
xxx
I predict that abuse will manifest along these lines but in a serious analogue. Then there is the whole selective enforcement concern. Why do I hold this bias? Observation / pattern recognition.

I don't want to misrepresent. Of course there are valid cases. However, I don't trust the system as they wrote it... it needs to be more clearly defined.

DeSantis should have made the Disney fight about fair taxes and land use. .Rather than because of pollical point of view. It's hard to argue about the Biden oppression while supporting DeSantis does the same.. I have said since the beginning that DeSantis is pulling some shit. When he's gone everything he's done can and will be undone by the stroke of a pen And I get the feeling, he wants it that way.

DeSantis is doing a good conservative job in Florida. But he is an establishment politician that will have to cater to the GRINOP. His wife thinks she's Jacqueline Kennedy and every time she speaks, he looks nervous like she is about to say something stupid.

TPB, would you mind elaborating here or in a new thread? I, too, sense something is off but I will admit a lot of it is "DON'T TRUST ANYONE WHO NOTABLY CATERS TO JEWS".

Soon it will become some variant of this:
'German Domestic Spy Agency Labels AfD Youth Org As "Extreme Right", Enabling Mass Surveillance Of All Members' - ZH

Its Trump-style Bread and Circuses.

That is all it is. Its superficial and not of any consequence.

Sometimes you have to tolerate his public antics in light of his anti-Establishment and anti-globalist agenda.

Doesn’t matter, you’ll vote for him if he’s the last man standing on the right

Trump has my vote even if he grabbed some random female by the pussy and shot someone on 5th Avenue.

I'll vote for DeSantis again too.

Disney provoked Florida and so now they may lose some of their unique privileges in Florida.

BayArea says

Doesn’t matter, you’ll vote for him if he’s the last man standing on the right

clambo says

Trump has my vote even if he grabbed some random female by the pussy and shot someone on 5th Avenue.

I'll vote for DeSantis again too.

Disney provoked Florida and so now they may lose some of their unique privileges in Florida.

Agreed on both. As bad you may think some of their recent "gaffes" or calculated political theaters are, it's still infinitely better than any leftoid.

republicans had gay audience? telling you guys, whole nation is fucking gay

FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden says

republicans had gay audience? telling you guys, whole nation is fucking gay

Gooooood moooooorning: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Log_Cabin_Republicans?wprov=sfti1

mell says

Agreed on both. As bad you may think some of their recent "gaffes" or calculated political theaters are, it's still infinitely better than any leftoid.

Trump is basically a 1980's-90's Democrat right now with his soft positions on the culture, vaccines and criminal justice - kind of like Bill Clinton including all the baggage!

I will leave it to the Always-Trumpers to explain how nominating a term limited Bill Clinton as the Republican nominee is superior to nominating a guy like DeSantis.

Trump's position on the vaccines was it is your choice. He didn't say that they should be mandatory, he said they should be voluntary.

Trump is nothing like Bill Clinton who raised taxes in any way he could until it was impossible.

Trump got rid of the tax penalty for opting out of Obamacare, and he doubled the standard deduction (a lower class tax cut).

I have nothing against De Santis and I voted for him.

clambo says

Trump's position on the vaccines was it is your choice. He didn't say that they should be mandatory, he said they should be voluntary.

Trump is nothing like Bill Clinton who raised taxes in any way he could until it was impossible.

Trump got rid of the tax penalty for opting out of Obamacare, and he doubled the standard deduction (a lower class tax cut).

I have nothing against De Santis and I voted for him.

And he killed the fucking AMT.

socal2 says

mell says

Agreed on both. As bad you may think some of their recent "gaffes" or calculated political theaters are, it's still infinitely better than any leftoid.

Trump is basically a 1980's-90's Democrat right now with his soft positions on the culture, vaccines and criminal justice - kind of like Bill Clinton including all the baggage!

I will leave it to the Always-Trumpers to explain how nominating a term limited Bill Clinton as the Republican nominee is superior to nominating a guy like DeSantis.

Either one far better than leftoids. Clinton wasn't a bad president, he was just a bit corrupt like most of them and had a different definition of what is is.

clambo says

the standard deduction (a lower class tax cut).

Actually, a middle-class tax cut. Lower classes do not pay income taxes anyway, so this actually benefitted middle class renters, middle-class with paid for homes, and middle-class with smaller mortgage balances (midway through term or not in excessive house price areas). A Californian in a skewed housing market may not see that for the same reason they would think one needs a $200k income to be "middle-class."

FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden says

republicans had gay audience? telling you guys, whole nation is fucking gay

Planned Parenthood explicitly planned to encouraged homosexuality in 1969 as a way of reducing the population:

https://patrick.net/post/1378107/2022-12-27-1969-memo-of-tyrannical-population

The same people seem to be in charge today.

https://palexander.substack.com/p/trump-was-flat-wrong-100-on-the-lockdowns

Trump was flat wrong, 100% on the lockdowns & the fake deadly OWS mRNA technology (Malone, Bourla, Bancel, Weissman et al.) COVID injections; he has to own it & tell the people he is sorry for this & admit as POTUS, he was misled, will now work in Trump 2.0 to reverse PREP ACT liability protection (retroactive) allow us to sue, & set up victim compensation fund all those harmed by lockdowns, vax!

I will give him the benefit and give a Term 2.0…he has to fix the wrongs from his administration to make people ‘whole’…he has to punish people who did wrong in COVID lockdowns and the vaccine. ...

There is no data, no evidence anywhere that Trump can point to to show that the COVID mRNA vaccines were safe, effective, and helped, NONE! Wishful thinking.

Not one study, not one trial still today, has shown that any of the mRNA gene injections are safe and effective; none done in adults and none in children. Not one! Just wishful thinking.

OWS was a pure failure! I was there too. That is all I may say. The lockdowns all failed. All of them. People died.

Trump really wanted to do good by his peoples, he loves nation, flag, peoples….he wanted a vaccine that was safe and effective, I know. I was there. He repeatedly asked them para “you are assuring me it is safe and efffective, do not bring it if unsafe”…and they like Moncef and Bourla and Bancel would say para “yes, Mr. President, it is safe and effective” and he would say para “do not bring anything if not safe and effective”…para “yes, Mr. President, it is safe and effective”…Trump’s problem is that he trusted what they were telling him as his lead medical and scientific counsel, not knowing they were lying to him all the time.

There is lots I know and can say but cannot. Bound by confidentiality. A POTUS must have executive privilege and that not all said around them will be leaked etc. But this cannot stop me from speaking my mind, and I fought hard within the administration. Against lockdowns and all of it. I just know this, Trump is not a bad man, he made 2 terrible mistakes e.g. allowed Fauci et al. to manage the lockdowns and they used that to harm people and topple Trump…hari kari…he allowed OWS. The 2 greatest disasters ever known happened under Trump. Lockdowns and the COVID vaccine.

He has lots of explaining to do.

He has to own it and beg forgiveness and explain how it will not ever happen again…only he can do it…he must come in and burn DC down to the ground, raze it…fumigate the city…send all home until completed.

Patrick says

This is not true. This is ignoring the fact that the vaccine was released after Trump left office... he didn't know. But he needs to stop supporting this poison. The latest from Trunp is this:

Donald Trump: "When I am back in the White House, I will use every available authority to cut federal funding to any school, college, airline, or public transportation system that imposes a mask mandate or a vaccine mandate." https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/donald-trump-covid-19-lockdowns/2023/08/31/id/1132747/

You have to keep the following in mind:

MAGA and the historical political realignment it is a major part of is above all a social evolution.

Sarah Palin was proto-MAGA. None of us knew it at the time as such, but it sure is obvious now.

People like Trump are MAGA 1.0. This includes Kari Lake and MTG.

People like Vivek are MAGA 2.0. Not saying Vivek is electable, but he can handle the media exactly how we want him to and need all our MAGA pols to. And, policy-wise is smart & knowledgeable compared to the above precursors. Tucker Carlson I put into this category as well. Possibly a more seasoned Kari Lake, too.

DeSantis...he's a Globohomo Globalist sellout as far as I can tell. As long as he sucks Donor Cock like Neocon Nikki does (he just hides it a lot better), this will always be the case.

UkraineIsFucked says

DeSantis...he's a Globohomo Globalist sellout as far as I can tell.

When our party is filled with retardation like this, it explains why Democrats run rings around us and why Republicans have lost power in virtually every branch of government since 2016.

What good is "MAGA 1.0 or 2.0" if they keep running people like Sarah Palin and Kari Lake (and Doctor Oz and Herschel Walker) who lose EASY elections?

It was Trumpian genius for Kari Lake to tell a bunch of old retired Arizona veterans who liked McCain "To get the hell out!" right before her election. Addition by subtraction!

I forgot, Trump and MAGA think they are going to replace all of the moderate Republicans they have alienated with a bunch of African Americans and Bruce Jenner's tranny friends..

https://chrishanger.wordpress.com/2024/01/10/some-reflections-on-the-current-populist-situation/

Kari Lake was completely defrauded with the willing assistance of the AZ GOP.

The phone call came out and the Chairman of the AZ GOP resigned over it. Basically trying to bribe her to get out.

She was one of the most popular local newscasters in Arizona, beloved by natives and retirees alike, and continues to win lawfare cases over the election.

socal2 says

I forgot, Trump and MAGA think they are going to replace all of the moderate Republicans they have alienated with a bunch of African Americans and Bruce Jenner's tranny friends..

There's NOTHING moderate about McCain, or Nikki Haley, or Dick Cheney, or any of those Neocon assholes. Those fuckers invited the Neocons to control foreign policy for 20 years which has led to nothing but disaster. The reason we have NOTHING but propaganda in corporate media is because of them.

People who think they are "moderate republicans", are just brainwashed republicans. These are the people that were easily convinced "we can't wait for the final proof to come in the form of a mushroom cloud" from Iraq, who obsess about whether Michelle Obama is a transgender or not - who fucking cares? They will support ANY war as long as a republican starts it, and will oppose ANY war as long as a democrat starts it.

The moderate republicans are nothing more than brain dead party loyalists. They'd vote for Lucifer himself if the media and establishment republicans supported him. These are barely even sentient people. They have no principles, and if, say, a democrat came around that had every value (and demonstrated that he did) that a "moderate republican" had, they'd vote for a communist on the republican ticket. They don't matter. They vote completely unthinkingly.

socal2 says

What good is "MAGA 1.0 or 2.0" if they keep running people like Sarah Palin and Kari Lake (and Doctor Oz and Herschel Walker) who lose EASY elections?

Neither Kari Lake of Doctor Oz lost their elections.

Until you realize this, you're going to be perpetually puzzled as to why people keep losing "easy" elections. They aren't losing them. Until you see the actual problem, there's NO CHANCE it can be fixed.

AmericanKulak says

Kari Lake was completely defrauded with the willing assistance of the AZ GOP.

Yes. Notice what MAGA 1.0 ers have most in common? They are defined by not what they have done as much as what has been done/is being done to them. Pseudo-martyrs, of a sorts. That is why in order to move onto MAGA 2.x and beyond, we need crafty, competent people who are less of a shit-on matt by the old guard and more who do actual things that matter/unfuck things.

UkraineIsFucked says

That is why in order to move onto MAGA 2.x and beyond, we need crafty, competent people who are less of a shit-on matt by the old guard and more who do actual things that matter/unfuck things.

Absolutely.

DeSantis and his team would have brought competency in spades to the White House. People with no baggage who can play the game to defeat Democrats even when the lawfare and voter fraud deck is stacked against them.

Who is Trump bringing in this time around that is competent? Trump's picks in personal attorneys is abysmal starting with slimeball Michael Cohen, Sidney "Kraken" Powell, and the hot chick who just lost the New York case last week to that nutball Jean Carroll.

We will likely get uber-Rino chick VP's like Kristi Noem or Elise Stefanik as Sarah Palin 2.0. JEB! has a more Conservative record than those 2!

socal2 says

DeSantis and his team would have brought competency in spades to the White House. People with no baggage who can play the game to defeat Democrats even when the lawfare and voter fraud deck is stacked against them.

Somehow you magically missed this part:

UkraineIsFucked says

DeSantis...he's a Globohomo Globalist sellout as far as I can tell. As long as he sucks Donor Cock like Neocon Nikki does (he just hides it a lot better), this will always be the case.

socal2 says

"We will likely get uber-Rino chick VP's like Kristi Noem"

I am curious: Is there any strong evidence that shows Kristi Noem is a RINO?