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Patent Idea - gas stoves


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2023 May 15, 11:31am   5,218 views  51 comments

by richwicks   ➕follow (2)   💰tip   ignore  

Since gas stoves are being eliminated, I have a solution - if you know anybody that wants to do it.

Just generate hydrogen gas from electrolysis. It's NOT efficient at all, but it burns very cleanly and the byproducts are just water, and perhaps some NO2.

It's easy to do and would be relatively safe to operate. Would be no more explosive than natural gas. Production of the gas can be controlled by a float, such that when enough hydrogen is created in the water, either the electrodes are exposed (don't think that's a good idea, because it would wear the electrodes more at the bottom than the top), or just a float that turns on an off a switch to the electricity.

There, a solution for chefs. But it's like 35% efficient. You'd need something like gold or platinum electrodes, and they need to have a LOT of surface area.

This process creates both oxygen and hydrogen and never can the two mix. If you end up with a mixed gas, you basically have a bomb. They oxygen would also have to be vented to the outside, and carefully because any fire near that would burn vigorously.

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46   Onvacation   2023 May 17, 5:07pm  

WookieMan says

Why would you guys live in CA and even think about this?

Cal Gov is asshoe.
47   HeadSet   2023 May 17, 6:33pm  

Surprised the solar oven (or solar cooker) has not caught on. It is a large reflective cone with the bottom half cut off, so that it is a ring that reflects sunlight onto a concentrated area. Totally free on a sunny day. There are other configurations, but all basically reflect sunlight into a small area. Walmart and Target sell them.
https://www.walmart.com/ip/FETCOI-Portable-Solar-Cooker-150cm-Diameter-Camping-Outdoor-Parabolic-Sun-Oven-Heat-NEW/1415477824?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=101082135&adid=22222222222000000000&wmlspartner=wmtlabs&wl0=e&wl1=o&wl2=c&wl3=10352200394&wl4=pla-1103028060075%3Aaud-807615483&wl5=&wl6=&wl7=&wl10=Walmart&wl11=Online&wl12=1415477824_10001101506&wl14=solar+oven&veh=sem&gclid=ee279d7be41b17546046f91e9b5ba190&gclsrc=3p.ds&msclkid=ee279d7be41b17546046f91e9b5ba190
48   B.A.C.A.H.   2023 May 17, 6:50pm  

EBGuy says

Indoor air quality is, ostensibly, one of the big reasons for the push against gas stoves.
Are Gas Stoves Really Causing Asthma?
A dive into the paper behind the panicked headlines.
The concern is that gas stoves emit high levels of nitrogen oxides, and those pollutants could lead to respiratory issues in children... In their case, they estimate 12.7 percent of asthma cases are caused by gas stoves.

But it's OK for parents to smoke cigarettes inside their homes.
49   ForcedTQ   2023 May 17, 7:07pm  

EBGuy says

Indoor air quality is, ostensibly, one of the big reasons for the push against gas stoves.
Are Gas Stoves Really Causing Asthma?
A dive into the paper behind the panicked headlines.
The concern is that gas stoves emit high levels of nitrogen oxides, and those pollutants could lead to respiratory issues in children... In their case, they estimate 12.7 percent of asthma cases are caused by gas stoves.



Because their operators are too stupid to turn on the stove hood and exhaust the emissions. Operator error.
50   WookieMan   2023 May 18, 5:11am  

B.A.C.A.H. says

But it's OK for parents to smoke cigarettes inside their homes.

Valid point. Former smoker as I've mentioned. I've never smoked in an enclosed area with my kids. Not a joke, but the people we have over that still smoke outside, there is a designated spot for it. I put ash trays out and certain people still just throw them on the ground. I'm not judging them, but at least don't litter my damn yard. It took 2 years to full get over cravings, year 7 now. I don't miss that habit at all or have any cravings after those first 2. Number 1 dumbest decision of my life. Took 4 times.

Gas stoves have nothing to do with asthma from your quoted comment. Not directed at you BACAH. But outside of extremely rare cases asthma is generally a made up illness in my mind. My nephew that lives with us "supposedly" has it. My SIL was doing doctors visits and then I started doing them. Doc said he was fine.

It's a women illness for their kids because they're scared every time they cough or seem to have labored breathing. Sexist as hell, but it's fact. Munchausen syndrome by the mother on their child. Before taking him in I camped with him and my boys. My SIL mentioned nothing about meds. So he didn't take them for a week. Emergency inhaler and all this other shit. He didn't need it. He has pollen allergies..... our car was covered in pollen. Car wash level pollen. Coughed a bit, but no issues.

Another reason I don't trust the medical field and wouldn't trust any study on natural gas "causing" asthma. We'd all need inhalers if that were true. It's not. Until we all realize that everything and I mean everything is set up to extract money from you, you aren't going to live a happy life. Doctors don't care. I've yet to meet an honest one. Or find a study that's not massively biased and flawed like natural gas causing asthma.

Asbestos, lead paint, etc. was killing everyone while our life expectancy has slowed but it was steadily increasing during those times. So blame natural gas..... or covid. https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/USA/united-states/life-expectancy
51   richwicks   2023 May 18, 7:51am  

WookieMan says

Gas stoves have nothing to do with asthma from your quoted comment. Not directed at you BACAH. But outside of extremely rare cases asthma is generally a made up illness in my mind. My nephew that lives with us "supposedly" has it. My SIL was doing doctors visits and then I started doing them. Doc said he was fine.


As a kid, I frequently got bronchitis, that's totally real. My throat would swell up, and I would wake up in the middle of the night having difficulty breathing. By the time I was 4, I knew to go to a sink, run hot water, and inhale the steam, and that would alleviate it. I remember the panic it caused me because it felt like I was suffocating.

I don't know why inhaling water vapor alleviated it, but it does. I've not experienced it since I was a teenager. Wouldn't be surprised to go through it again as an old man though.

WookieMan says

Doctors don't care. I've yet to meet an honest one.


There are honest vets. My vet was a good doctor.

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