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Has anyone else noticed that airplanes are flying shallower departure paths than pre-covid?
2023 May 24, 4:46pm 3,647 views 39 comments
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HeadSet
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2023 May 24, 5:29pm
HeadSet
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2023 May 24, 5:29pm
stereotomy says
Sounds like they switched from Vx (best angle of climb) to Vy (best rate of climb). That would get them to altitude faster, but over more ground distance with the shallower angle so they would be lower passing over your house. Vy is preferred but Vx is used if some obstacle must be cleared. Maybe an obstacle has been removed or noise abatement standards have been lifted for "quieter engines." Interesting take on the clot shot, since Vy does have a slightly better buffer over a stall. But then, a plane properly trimmed for takeoff is an easy handover from one pilot to the next.
I suspect that the airlines are doing this so that in case a pilot keels over mid-departure because of clot shot damage, there's enough time for the copilot to recover, since the shallower departure angle means that the airplane is getting much more lift and can possibly "coast" a little with significantly less possibility of a stall.
Sounds like they switched from Vx (best angle of climb) to Vy (best rate of climb). That would get them to altitude faster, but over more ground distance with the shallower angle so they would be lower passing over your house. Vy is preferred but Vx is used if some obstacle must be cleared. Maybe an obstacle has been removed or noise abatement standards have been lifted for "quieter engines." Interesting take on the clot shot, since Vy does have a slightly better buffer over a stall. But then, a plane properly trimmed for takeoff is an easy handover from one pilot to the next.
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B.A.C.A.H.
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2023 May 24, 5:38pm
B.A.C.A.H.
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2023 May 24, 5:38pm
Best rate of climb is more efficient than best angle (less fuel burned). Cheaper. Yet another tidbit of our incredibly shrinking standard of living.
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1337irr
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2023 May 24, 5:38pm
1337irr
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2023 May 24, 5:38pm
I would also add there are a lot of checklists and redundancies for airline pilots these days.
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Eric_Holder
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2023 May 24, 6:33pm
Eric_Holder
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2023 May 24, 6:33pm
Airplanes became so quiet I'm starting to miss the sound. Especially the sound of turboprops.
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GNL
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2023 May 24, 7:55pm
GNL
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2023 May 24, 7:55pm
Seems like a monumental stretch.
I still do not know of anyone harmed by the jab. Certainly no one under the age of 70+.
I still do not know of anyone harmed by the jab. Certainly no one under the age of 70+.
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HeadSet
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2023 May 24, 8:07pm
HeadSet
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2023 May 24, 8:07pm
Eric Holder says
Will you miss the ear busting sound of Harleys when motorcycles go all electric?
Airplanes became so quiet I'm starting to miss the sound. Especially the sound of turboprops.
Will you miss the ear busting sound of Harleys when motorcycles go all electric?
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WookieMan
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2023 May 25, 2:45am
WookieMan
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2023 May 25, 2:45am
HeadSet says
Harleys can eat shit and start on fire. Fucking small penis syndrome. Any loud motorcycle. They're a fucking nuisance. God they fucking piss me off.
With regards to the planes. 200' AGL would be pretty damn low over a building. My home airport MDW that's for sure possible or maybe San Diego, but I think they take off toward the Pacific because of the hill to the East.
Headset would know the most on this. BACAH is probably right as well. Getting to cruising altitude quicker so you burn less fuel is going to be cheaper. Climb as fast as you can within specifications of said plane. Staying lower in an urban setting as well is probably the worst thing you can do where you have zero possible emergency landing locations in the first couple minutes besides buildings. Sully was lucky to get it in the Hudson. Could have been buildings.
Eric Holder says
Airplanes became so quiet I'm starting to miss the sound. Especially the sound of turboprops.
Will you miss the ear busting sound of Harleys when motorcycles go all electric?
Harleys can eat shit and start on fire. Fucking small penis syndrome. Any loud motorcycle. They're a fucking nuisance. God they fucking piss me off.
With regards to the planes. 200' AGL would be pretty damn low over a building. My home airport MDW that's for sure possible or maybe San Diego, but I think they take off toward the Pacific because of the hill to the East.
Headset would know the most on this. BACAH is probably right as well. Getting to cruising altitude quicker so you burn less fuel is going to be cheaper. Climb as fast as you can within specifications of said plane. Staying lower in an urban setting as well is probably the worst thing you can do where you have zero possible emergency landing locations in the first couple minutes besides buildings. Sully was lucky to get it in the Hudson. Could have been buildings.
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WookieMan
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2023 May 25, 3:03am
WookieMan
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2023 May 25, 3:03am
GNL says
Harmed or dead? I know many people, mainly female that were harmed. I think it messes with females more. My SIL had 2 miscarriages. My wife had issues for 4 months straight. Red tide.... I've heard other stories from friends. I don't know any guys that have had issues though and no sudden deaths or anything.
I recall what you do for a living. You might not be surrounded by that many people that were forced to take the jab for employment. Although I guess I'm probably the only pure blood in our group of close friends. I did the best when I got covid at the same time as other vaccinated people we were with. Either way it's not worth taking and my kids will NEVER take it.
I still do not know of anyone harmed by the jab. Certainly no one under the age of 70+.
Harmed or dead? I know many people, mainly female that were harmed. I think it messes with females more. My SIL had 2 miscarriages. My wife had issues for 4 months straight. Red tide.... I've heard other stories from friends. I don't know any guys that have had issues though and no sudden deaths or anything.
I recall what you do for a living. You might not be surrounded by that many people that were forced to take the jab for employment. Although I guess I'm probably the only pure blood in our group of close friends. I did the best when I got covid at the same time as other vaccinated people we were with. Either way it's not worth taking and my kids will NEVER take it.
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I'd notice that planes would use a steep departure angle to minimize noise, but now it seems like they are using as shallow a departure angle as possible. I swear that some planes are less than 200 feet above the ground as they pass above me - the airport is over 3 miles away.
I suspect that the airlines are doing this so that in case a pilot keels over mid-departure because of clot shot damage, there's enough time for the copilot to recover, since the shallower departure angle means that the airplane is getting much more lift and can possibly "coast" a little with significantly less possibility of a stall.
Probably no one else on PatNet is living in as low-rent housing as I am, but for those possibly in the know, are my suspicions somewhat justified? The FAA already effectively eliminated the arrhythmia standards for pilots' hearts. Is this just another step in the process of trying to keep as many heart-damaged pilots flying so that the airline industry doesn't collapse?