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mell says

Bring me RFK, DS or Trump, anything we can work with but 4 more years of this shit.

The only thing - and it's a big thing - DS would do is go after Woke.

The RINOs really didn't want to, because it makes them uncomfortable at their Cocktail Parties and they hate being ribbed as having any Principles, but they just say "Well, we had to kick out the Graphic Comics of Anal Sex from K-5 Public School Libraries to please the Rubes"

But I think the Bushites/Koch Brothers have accepted the fact they'll have to cave on Trannies to have a shot in hell having their RINOs survive.

Almost every person that has switched/backed DeSantis... was part of the Ted Cruz Crew in 2016.

(Via Sundance/LastRefuge/ConservativeTreehouse)

AmericanKulak says

Almost every person that has switched/backed DeSantis... was part of the Ted Cruz Crew in 2016.

Is that surprising? Alot of us want a strong Conservative that has the policy chops and experience to take on the Democrats, Media and most importantly our government bureaucracy.

Whereas Trump has to pander to alot of bullshit causes (like emptying our prisons) and trying to scare old people about entitlement cuts because Trump lost so many Conservatives and wine-moms who will never vote for him due to his personality. I don't want the black vote if that means we have to support BLM bullshit!

Trump smacking down Rosie ODonnell is great and all, but Trump still has no experienced loyalists that can take on the bureaucracy and get things done like DeSantis has proven he can do in spades.

I will happily vote Trump over any Democrat, but am sick and tired of the drama and retardation where Trump is swinging widely criticizing DeSantis over cultural issues, let alone Trump making the Democrat argument against DeSantis on government spending and claiming that DeSantis somehow botched his COVID response.

The most retarded Trump attack is that DeSantis is a sECret GloBAlisT hOmO - all the while Trump is backing trannies like Bruce Jenner, Bud Light, Disney, Faucis and cutting entitlement spending!

More than anything. I want to fucking win in 2024 and I am afraid Trump is simply too damaged and would get little done in 4 years.

DeSantis IS a not-so-secret Globalist Homo. Learn nothing from 9/11 and the Patriot Act with DHS/FEMA dressing, get more of the same and wonder why your old USA is in ashes around you and your Constitution is gone.

Predators have mapped out the knee jerk reflexes of the prey to use against them.

https://t.me/davidavocadowolfe/97629

You'll never find DeSantis telling the country what really happened on 9/11. Globalist Bush affiliate.

Ron DeSantis Flies To Israel To Destroy Free Speech In Florida
https://news.gab.com/2023/04/ron-desantis-flies-to-israel-to-destroy-free-speech-in-florida/
And why is DeSantis abolishing free speech? And why exactly is DeSantis abolishing free speech from Israel? The Romulan Cloaking Shield of antisemitism has been invoked. Too much virtue signaling and not enough respect for the Constitution? Opening the door for ADL type lawfare abuse?

Ceffer says

DeSatnis IS a not-so-secret Globalist Homo.

This is why we can't have nice things like small government and the reasons why Liberals have so much power and are tearing through our institutions. The political Right is filled with RINOs, grifters like Laura Loomer and weak-ass Commie/Jihadi 9/11 Troofer propagandists tearing down good candidates accusing everyone being a Globalist unless they are hating on Israel and sucking Putin's cock because.........reasons....

So we end up with weak RINO's or unelectable folks who are branded extremists.

Speaking of weak-ass globalists.

- Does DeSantis embrace the LGBTQ crap like Trump did and continues to do by defending Disney and Anheuser Busch?
- Does DeSantis want to go soft on crime and empty our prisons like Trump already did?
- Does DeSantis want to open our borders?
- Does DeSantis accept big Pfizer influence and money like Trump did and criticize other Governors for not locking down hard enough?
- Does DeSantis support unlimited support to Ukraine?

Unlike Trump who is doubling down on retardation, DeSantis has publicly apologized and taken actions for some of his past positions on COVID, foreign policy and cultural issues - explaining how his views have matured over time.

Can you imagine Trump apologizing for going soft on crime with his stupid and murderous "First Step Act"? Let alone apologize for his COVID policies and inflicting Fauci and Birx on us? It is simply not in Trump's DNA to admit a mistake - and we are all going to pay a heavy price of 4 more years of Donkey control if we are foolish enough to make him our nominee.

And here we have DeSantis pretending to be a patriotic nationalist. The Bush family, Kochs and his supporters are all facilitating the open invasion of our country at the Southern border as much as they can. He is going to be the great sock puppet pretender, but doesn't yet hold a candle to Obama's lies and fake promises.

https://t.me/SGTnewsNetwork/46822

Meanwhile - DeSantis signed a law requiring the use of E Verify in Florida essentially shutting down illegal labor in his state.

That law will have a more profound and lasting effect then anything Trump did since all of Trump's reforms were overturned on day one with Biden.

But but but..........DeSantis is a sEcRet illegal alien lover!

How about a Trump and Andrew Cuomo ticket?

https://twitter.com/andrewcuomo/status/1663657063921090562?ref_src=patrick.net

How long before Trump is accepting compliments from AOC in his bid to the presidency? Do any of the Trump backers here at Patnet agree with Trump that DeSantis should have locked down MOAR during COVID and that New York did it better?

Trump's claim is beyond retarded and provably wrong.

All the fears I had of Trump before 2016 of being nothing but a New York City liberal weathervane telling the Conservative base what it wanted to hear is all coming true now. Trump has absolutely no moorings and will sell out anyone or anything that gets in his way. Dude was attacking Kayleigh McEnany this week for showing insufficient fealty.

socal2 says

DeSantis signed a law requiring the use of E Verify in Florida essentially shutting down illegal labor in his state

Oh yes, those people using illegal labor will certainly follow the laws now...

DhammaStep says

Oh yes, those people using illegal labor will certainly follow the laws now...

Based on the harpy liberal news reports, it is pretty clear that some businesses have stopped using illegal aliens for labor since the new law went into effect.

How long before Trump world is criticizing DeSantis for this? They will either gaslight us telling us that DeSantis didn't do anything to curb illegal employment, or Trump will do ANOTHER 180 on a major political issue he once held and say that DeSantis is too mean to local businesses?

Local businesses losing workers due to new Florida immigration law
WEST PALM BEACH, Fla. —
Florida’s new sweeping immigration law is already affecting local businesses in our area.

Some business owners reporting that longtime employees are quitting and even leaving the state after Gov. Ron DeSantis signed Senate Bill 1718 last week.

An employee at East Wok Chinese restaurant said that not only did they lose a loyal, hardworking employee due to the law, but they’re also losing customers because many in their community are afraid to even come in for food.
https://www.wpbf.com/article/businesses-losing-workers-florida-immigration-law/43922818#

I consider myself a realist. Donald Trump is not electable for the Presidency. For the love of God why can't you people understand that.

socal2 says

Based on the harpy liberal news reports, it is pretty clear that some businesses have stopped using illegal aliens for labor since the new law went into effect

The clever ones will figure out a way around the law, and others will follow. Assuming they haven't already. Guarantee it.

DhammaStep says

Oh yes, those people using illegal labor will certainly follow the laws now...

Small feints for optics. Illegal labor has always been illegal. Make it illegal again and claim a great stride forward? DeSantis bosses are pouring them in over the border with the cartels, gangs, and Chinese combatants while DeSantis plays the Great Conservative Hope, just like Shrubbie, his demonic Daddy, and Cheney all did.RedStar says

Donald Trump is not electable for the Presidency.

Is this an agitprop echo chamber? Like, from 2016?

DhammaStep says

The clever ones will figure out a way around the law, and others will follow. Assuming they haven't already. Guarantee it.

Geesh! Should Republicans not even bother passing tougher regulations to enforce immigration laws? Should we not bother building more border walls because some illegals and cartels will figure a way around, under or over it?

It's ALREADY illegal. All you need to do is enforce existing laws, not make fake optics new laws as if the existing laws don't exist and a 'new law' is some kind of achievement. Enforcement is the problem, not toothless redundant laws. Where is the enforcement?

Ceffer says

It's ALREADY illegal. All you need to do is enforce existing laws, not make fake optics new laws as if the existing laws don't exist and a 'new law' is some kind of achievement. Enforcement is the problem, not toothless redundant laws. Where is the enforcement?

E-verify makes enforcement for employers so much easier, they can't use the subcontractor of a subcontractor excuse anymore. It is a very important step and should be used federally.

Dominion endorses Ron DeSantis? That would probably be the most important endorsement next to the Soros endorsement he already got.

Ceffer says

Donald Trump is not electable for the Presidency.

Is this an agitprop echo chamber? Like, from 2016?

I think we are dreaming to think 2024 will be like 2016 where Trump squeaked by a terribly weak and hated Hillary. No way will Biden be the nominee.

After the last 6+ years, there are too many Americans who will never change their mind on Trump and will proudly vote for a vegetable like Biden or that caveman in PA as opposed to Orange Man Bad. Republicans haven't won a major election cycle since 2016. How many more beatings do we need? Where are Trump's coattails? Can't blame it all on election fraud.

On top of that, Trump is losing droves of Conservatives like me with all his retarded Leftist attacks on DeSantis. Who is Trump trying to convince by defending trannies, Fauci and emptying our prisons? The nauseating gLObaLIst accusations by Trump grifters is retarded too.

mell says

Ceffer says

It's ALREADY illegal. All you need to do is enforce existing laws, not make fake optics new laws as if the existing laws don't exist and a 'new law' is some kind of achievement. Enforcement is the problem, not toothless redundant laws. Where is the enforcement?

E-verify makes enforcement for employers so much easier, they can't use the subcontractor of a subcontractor excuse anymore. It is a very important step and should be used federally.

That is the problem with Trumpers, all optics and hot air - they don't know anything, and certainly don't know anything about actually running a government.

Democrat positions aren't popular, but they run circles around us by subverting our laws using the government bureaucracies against us.

DeSantis has more than shown he knows how to navigate our laws and bureaucracy to eliminate the liberal rot and actually get shit done. And for that, Trumpers are calling DeSantis a gLoBalist!

socal2 says

I think we are dreaming to think 2024 will be like 2016 where Trump squeaked by a terribly weak and hated Hillary. No way will Biden be the nominee.

After the last 6+ years, there are too many Americans who will never change their mind on Trump and will proudly vote for a vegetable like Biden or that caveman in PA as opposed to Orange Man Bad. Republicans haven't won a major election cycle since 2016. How many more beatings do we need? Where are Trump's coattails? Can't blame it all on election fraud.

On top of that, Trump is losing droves of Conservatives like me with all his retarded Leftist attacks on DeSantis. Who is Trump trying to convince by defending trannies, Fauci and emptying our prisons? The nauseating gLObaLIst accusations by Trump grifters is retarded too.

Unfortunately that is exactly what the ptb and the leftoids want, a brutal turf war on the Republican side, while letting their already picked weal nominee sail through after the conservatives massacred each other. I'm all for healthy debate, but this is already spiraling. Just argue your program/policies, go through the primary and then support each other. This is where the right is weak as shit, individually they are usually stronger than most leftoids, but they have no concept of banding together for the greater good. That's why most if not all most brutal dictatorships/genocides have been carried out by leftists, they are the better herd animals. Anyone, DS, Trump and even RFK is better than the current bullshit and will help bring this country back onto the right track.

Trump won in 2020, more votes than Obama 2008, 17/18 Bellweather Counties with 5 Million MORE votes than in 2016 but still "Lost" the Election after just enough ballots were "found" in the days after the election in a handful of cities. Colleges and their dorms that totally closed for COVID somehow reported 1000s of student voters from the Student Center Mail rooms. We were told to be patient, and then the Friday after the election told "no questions, waiting over, Biden Won." The RINOs did not want to fight, as Guiliani discovered Wednedsay after the election when he started calling around asking what help the various State GOPs needed and they were like, "Nah, Biden winning is better for us anyway."

Trump is not the problem.

Ron could do one thing to make me consider him a viable candidate - return all help and money from the Bush family.

That's it. Return it all, don't hire Bushites and RINO (like McConnell connected individuals) advisors.

Job #1 is purge all RINOs. Weak as Water McCarthy needs to go next. He could have raised the debt ceiling to incorporate the next few months, but he normalized Post-COVID budgets until 2025 and "Cut" calling $12B out of $4000B in new Borrow-and-spend a "victory"

Uniparty RINOs snatch defeat from the jaws of victory, because they don't want the victory.

"You have to compromise..." yeah, but in a real compromise, you get something you really want. $4000B in new spending under COVID-era budget wildness is not something anybody wants except Zombie Companies.

AmericanKulak says

Trump won in 2020, more votes than Obama 2008, 17/18 Bellweather Counties but still "Lost" the Election after just enough ballots were "found" in the days after the election in a handful of cities.

If it is not close, they can't cheat. Right or wrong, Trump has lost ALOT of supporters since the 2020 election. And Trump is losing more supporters by the day with his goofball Leftist attacks on DeSantis. The dude is just swinging wildly and can't land a punch. This is a whole different world culturally and economically than 2016.

AmericanKulak says

Ron could do one thing to make me consider him a viable candidate - return all help and money from the Bush family.

OK - does that mean Trump needs to give back all the Saudi, Disney and Anheuser Busch money back too?

I like both DeSantis and Trump.
I prefer Trump as do the voters.
There are others I like too.
I'm grateful for Trump because he blazed the trail for others to be clear about illegals and cartels and woke bullshit.
Trump made it okay to fight the lying scumbag media that Bush, Romney and McCain were so afraid of.
As stated above, Trump clearly won in 2020.

socal2 says

If it is not close, they can't cheat. Right or wrong, Trump has lost ALOT of supporters since the 2020 election. And Trump is losing more supporters by the day with his goofball Leftist attacks on DeSantis. The dude is just swinging wildly and can't land a punch. This is a whole different world culturally and economically than 2016.

It will always be close in places like Pennsylvania and other battleground states like Wisconsin and Michigan. The Democrats simply leveraged COVID/mail in balloting to conduct mass fraud, the laws weakened more (with RINOs not doing anything to oppose it) in the weeks before the election to get the Urban/State Capitol areas in Milwaukee, Detroit, or Madison as well as College Towns. And in some cases County Clerks simply doing it without a shred of legislative approval or granted powers, and having it de facto legalized afterwards by Judges uninterested in letting the cases through.

It happened again in Maricopa County to Kari Lake in 2022, and it could only happen with the connivance of the RINO used car and insurance salesmen running that County, all of whom were Never Trump. That's how Fox felt they could call it with 1% of the vote in 2020.

They can and WILL do it against DeSantis.

socal2 says

OK - does that mean Trump needs to give back all the Saudi, Disney and Anheuser Busch money back too?

Nope. The Bushes are a political family that is the main RINO nexus. I won't make DeSantis give back all his Koch Bros money, just the Bush.

I like DeSantis, and like his ego and ambition in the service of MAGA. I don't want it in the service of RINOs.

Trump boosters complaining that DeSantis boosters are spending too much time on Twitter?

Wasn't Trump once a prolific Twitter user - making Twitter one of the keys to his 2016 success being able to communicate directly to people without the media gate-keepers?

Is Trump-world going to do a 180 on all the views he once claimed to hold and pretend that no one is going to notice or care?

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