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Very good recent interview of Col. Douglas MacGregor:

Colonel Douglas Macgregor: Gerald Celente

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jq0k13rVJXE

WookieMan says

Lol. Let's listen to a guy that was a career military guy about economy and politics that was wrong in 4 weeks with Ukraine.

Sure, let's listen to the government that has been wrong for 2 years about Ukraine. They're going to win any day now. Just have sent another 100 billion dollars and get another 200,000 Ukrainian conscripts killed.

At least he recognizes at this point there's no way for Ukraine to win this conflict, and that it should have been entirely avoided. All it's done is get a bunch of people killed and raised the price of energy in Europe, probably exactly the outcome our government wanted.

richwicks says

All it's done is get a bunch of people killed and raised the price of energy in Europe, probably exactly the outcome our government wanted.

Blinken said with a smirk that Germany can depend on the USA for LNG after the Nordstream pipeline explosion. I see how German Green Party types welcome the increase in natural gas prices because they think its going to cause a faster transition to renewable energy.

Did you all read or see on the news about the Pope calling for Ukraine to "raise the white flag" and negotiate with the Russians.

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AD says

Did you all read or see on the news about the Pope calling for Ukraine to "raise the white flag" and negotiate with the Russians.

Nope, but I was raised Catholic, and any report about what the Pope supposedly said, is often just bullshit, so I ignore it. The pope supposedly has ordained gay marriage, according to the "news". No - that RCC doesn't change that quickly. It's a nearly 2000 year old institution, and they go for the long haul.

RayAmerica says

https://www.youtube.com/DouglasMacgregorStraightCalls/about

Douglas Macgregor is a decorated combat veteran, the author of five books, a PhD, and a Defense and Foreign Policy consultant.

I'll just ask ohomen and elena.

If anyone hurts her I'm going to be pissed:

UkraineIsTotallyFucked says

There are not enough arms for both wars.

I misread this as 'not enough YAMS for both wars'

komputodo says

If anyone hurts her I'm going to be pissed:

If she doesn't flee, she'll be gangraped to death by an entire division of RA soldiers who win a contest of who reaches Kyiv first.

https://twitter.com/MarioNawfal/status/1766024481053552951

richwicks says

Sure, let's listen to the government that has been wrong for 2 years about Ukraine. They're going to win any day now. Just have sent another 100 billion dollars and get another 200,000 Ukrainian conscripts killed.

Lol to the max. Mcgregor IS government. He IS the problem. You should hate this guy. He's also been provably wrong about Ukraine for literally 2 years. He said Russia would take Ukraine in weeks. I still can't laugh harder at this statement.

Russia didn't want NATO expanding towards them. Well that was a loss with two nations being added. Now they're actively trying to move TOWARDS more NATO nations. You can't make this shit up. This isn't my government reporting this to me. This is foreign press and other governments. Putin has literally said the objective and the reason why and all the history bull shit.

It's okay to be wrong. There's no one that said Ukraine would win on this site that I've ever read. Socal has just said Ukraine has gotten a better military through this and are basically holding the line for the most part at this point against the Russian supposed juggernaut. It's the fact Russia is losing in their main directive, KEEP NATO AWAY!!!! What is not being understood here? That's how Russia is losing. Because a real war with ALL NATO members hitting back at Russia they would be smashed.

They touch Poland I think it's the West that would just nuke Russia preemptively. https://www.armscontrol.org/factsheets/Nuclearweaponswhohaswhat

The problem with Russia is you can nuke 3-5 sites and they seize to function. Russia would have to hit soooooo many targets globally. Quantity doesn't matter. They have 3 nations within pissing distance that would fire on them in the hemisphere. Not sure of India's relations with Russia, but they seem better friends with the US. China and Pakistan won't do anything, it wouldn't be worth it.

Putin is actively moving towards NATO and getting neighbors to sign up. How is that winning? Ukraine has been a pawn for over two decades. The soldiers aren't running and surrendering so that's their choice. Eastern Euro's are stubborn as fuck. This will last another decade.

Also with Tucker and his take on Russia. They controlled where he went. They did it with friends of mine that went. This is why I like anecdotal evidence from sources I personally know. Russia is as controlling as North Korea with visitors. You don't just get to go where you want there. They force you to "tourist" spots. The country is a shit hole. Just because they have nukes doesn't mean it's first world for 90% of the land mass.

The only reason Russia exists is because of what's in the ground. Their people are miserable. They need outside tech to run the resources. They're incompetent. And to remind you I give no shits about Ukraine. If they draft and grabbed people off the street, they're still fighting and not running. They won't "win" but Russia is already the loser. This isn't about how many people you kill or land. NATO will continue to exist in our lifetimes. When Putin dies Russia will likely collapse in a power struggle for the resources. Quote this and prove me wrong when it happens...

WookieMan says

Lol to the max. Mcgregor IS government. He IS the problem.

Oh yes, he is, in part. He went to Iraq over that pack of lies without apparently any self reflection at all.

WookieMan says

You should hate this guy. He's also been provably wrong about Ukraine for literally 2 years.

I don't love him, and he's not been wrong for 2 years. He's been right for about 18 months. He's wrong about an impending war with Iran, the US is trying to start a war with Iran, but Iran won't bite. The US was trying to start a war with Russia, and FINALLY Russia bit, after 20 years of it.

The US will eventually abandon Ukraine and pretend they had nothing to do with it.

The US establishment has spent 2 years just outright lying about what is going on. Macgregor is hardly perfect, and I suspect he actually might be dishonest, but he doesn't lie to the bitter end. It was obvious before the war began that Ukraine wasn't going to win, just from the numbers.


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Corporate news is state tv, honestly. Our government just lies and lies and lies..

WookieMan says

He said Russia would take Ukraine in weeks. I still can't laugh harder at this statement.

I thought that might be the case as in Georgia, and I still believe Russia COULD easily do this. They could just bomb Kiev to rubble, but they don't bother. They have decided to fight this as a proxy war, exhaust US resources, and the war will go on for years. I was HOPING they would make quick work of this because if they didn't, it would drag out for years. I predict this war will go on for at minimum another 2 years. I predicted 5 years after about a month or so when Russia didn't just decapitate the leadership, which I was hoping they would.

WookieMan says

Russia didn't want NATO expanding towards them. Well that was a loss with two nations being added. Now they're actively trying to move TOWARDS more NATO nations. You can't make this shit up.

NATO may not exist at the end of this. There's literally no reason for it to exist now, and Russia isn't expanding and Russia didn't start this conflict. Sweden and Finland aren't stupid enough to fuck with Russia and all they've done is sign up to pay money into NATO.

WookieMan says

It's okay to be wrong. There's no one that said Ukraine would win on this site that I've ever read.

Are you kidding me? @"Mostly Reader" was in a RAGE with me because I said Ukraine couldn't win and it was best for them to surrender rather than get more people killed. Ukraine is a puppet government, they won't give up until there's nothing left to give up. Ukraine is going to be an example of "this is what happens to your country when you allow a traitor loyal to the United States run your foreign policy".

Russia will let A version of Ukraine survive, but Russia will take what they want of Eastern Ukraine and they will keep Crimea. Ukraine has had its population destroyed, they have no future. People who weren't willing to go to the meat grinder fled and likely won't come back. People that went to the meat grinder are dead.

WookieMan says

It's the fact Russia is losing in their main directive, KEEP NATO AWAY!!!! What is not being understood here? T

I do not know what Russia's objective is now - I doubt it's confined to their initial requirements of keeping Ukraine neutral and ending the civil war within Ukraine by having them abide by the Minsk Accords. I'll take a stab at what Russia's goal is though, I think they intend to change US foreign policy, which if that is, they are doing Americans a favor, although I admit this is being optimistic. US foreign policy doesn't serve US interests.

WookieMan says

Because a real war with ALL NATO members hitting back at Russia they would be smashed.

A "real war" would be nuclear annihilation and both Europe and Russia would be destroyed. Europe is too dependent on foreign goods and infrastructure, Russia would be certainly destroyed, but less than Europe would be. There will be no "real war". A real war would kill 100's of millions in Europe, Russia's population is only 150 million. The end result of such a war is China would be the unilateral power, not the United States. We would be the next USSR, and we already are on that way regardless.

WookieMan says

They touch Poland I think it's the West that would just nuke Russia preemptively. https://www.armscontrol.org/factsheets/Nuclearweaponswhohaswhat

No. Poland isn't stupid. Russia isn't expansionist, the United States is though. Poland has a US traitor in Donald Tusk who is adopting all the stupid whacky ideas of Europe. The Polish won't put up with that for long. It's not Russia that is attacking Poland, it's "progressive policies" and if you want to get into who is behind that, that's another conversation.

WookieMan says

The problem with Russia is you can nuke 3-5 sites and they seize to function. Russia would have to hit soooooo many targets globally. Quantity doesn't matter. They have 3 nations within pissing distance that would fire on them in the hemisphere. Not sure of India's relations with Russia, but they seem better friends with the US. China and Pakistan won't do anything, it wouldn't be worth it.

In a "real war" all you need to do is disrupt supply chains. That's easy to do today with nuclear weapons. They'll be a bunch of savages in 2 years if there's a nuclear war, there will be no government, they will all resort to cannibalism and tribal clans. Imagine the chaos of NYC, Washington DC, and Hollywood were just vaporized. Nobody even needs those to survive, however, it would throw our nation into absolute chaos. Those are our bullshit financial system, our bullshit warmonger government, and the propaganda that keeps it going.

WookieMan says

Putin is actively moving towards NATO and getting neighbors to sign up. How is that winning? Ukraine has been a pawn for over two decades. The soldiers aren't running and surrendering so that's their choice. Eastern Euro's are stubborn as fuck. This will last another decade.

Stubborn / stupid - whatever. I don't think the "whole thing" will last a decade, but I expect the Ukraine war to end before 2030. I'm betting sometime in 2026.

WookieMan says

Also with Tucker and his take on Russia. They controlled where he went. They did it with friends of mine that went. This is why I like anecdotal evidence from sources I personally know. Russia is as controlling as North Korea with visitors. You don't just get to go where you want there. They force you to "tourist" spots. The country is a shit hole. Just because they have nukes doesn't mean it's first world for 90% of the land mass.

I know Russians. Russia was like that when it was still the USSR, it's NOT the USSR anymore. That was more than 3 decades ago. I can't speak of Carlson's particular experience. It doesn't matter, I don't consider him a serious journalist.

WookieMan says

The only reason Russia exists is because of what's in the ground. Their people are miserable. They need outside tech to run the resources. They're incompetent. And to remind you I give no shits about Ukraine. If they draft and grabbed people off the street, they're still fighting and not running. They won't "win" but Russia is already the loser. This isn't about how many people you kill or land. NATO will continue to exist in our lifetimes. When Putin dies Russia will likely collapse in a power struggle for the resources. Quote this and prove me wrong when it happens...

No no no. Putin is a puppet himself. He has SOME input, but Medvedev is more hawkish than he is. Part of what Putin was trying to explain in what turned out to be a very superficial interview with Carlson is that Russia has been around for a long time, and they aren't going anywhere. The US has been around for 2 1/2 centuries... WE might go somewhere.

Russia's real problem is systemic corruption. IF Russia faces a real threat to their existence, that will end. Russia simply won't be able to afford to put up with it so they won't. The same is true for the US - when people say the US "is decadent", they mean it's growing more corrupt and criminal. Russia has been VERY SLOWLY cleaning up their corruption, and that's the real problem the US has with Russia. Instead of helping Russia in the 1990's, a bunch of carpetbaggers from the US moved in and setup shop, these were multinational..

Latest from Ret. Col. Douglas Macgregor. Two military experts discuss the latest on the Ukraine/Russian conflict:

Colonel Douglas Macgregor: Daniel Davis - Deep Dive 4/2/2024

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1jQxImGuKI

RayAmerica says

Latest from Ret. Col. Douglas Macgregor. Two military experts discuss the latest on the Ukraine/Russian conflict:

Colonel Douglas Macgregor: Daniel Davis - Deep Dive 4/2/2024

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1jQxImGuKI

They're not experts though. They're doing podcasts. Mcgregor has been absolutely wrong about Ukraine for 3 years now. He also acts like this started 3 years ago. Ukraine in the Eastern portion has been at war since Russia took Crimea, nearing a decade. They still haven't "won" this conflict. It just became official 3 years ago. Russia have been at war for quite some time, just not declared. Still not technically. "Special military operations."

WookieMan says

Ukraine in the Eastern portion has been at war since Russia took Crimea, nearing a decade.

Yes, with Western Ukraine, not with Russia. Crimea was taken in by Russia almost immediately after the US coup of Ukraine, and that's what caused the civil war of Ukraine between Eastern and Western Ukraine.

The United States funded their puppet leadership, and Russia funded their puppet leadership in the East of Ukraine. None of it would have happened if the US didn't overthrow Ukraine, and now, there's 100's of thousands of dead, and Western Ukraine is owned by Blackrock.

People are saying this war will drag on for a decade of something. I'd say for another few years, 2 I'd say is minimum, but not more than 5 but we'll see. I can't say I fully understand the geopolitics of this situation. I believe the goal of the US was to cut off Russian energy exports to Europe, that's accomplished, and also to hand over as much land and resources to capital investment banks like Vanguard and Blackrock, and that's accomplished. I don't know what reason the US has to continue this war. Russia only continues it to exhaust US resources.

IMO, a very reasonable assessment of the Ukraine/Russia and Israel/Iran conflicts:

Colonel Douglas Macgregor: Daniel Davis/Deep Dive 4/17/2024

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-uLhQ5D-fY

RayAmerica says

IMO, a very reasonable assessment of the Ukraine/Russia and Israel/Iran conflicts:

Colonel Douglas Macgregor: Daniel Davis/Deep Dive 4/17/2024

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-uLhQ5D-fY

People have to stop quoting and posting anything this guy says. https://www.polygraph.info/a/fact-check-how-russia-uses-retired-us-colonel-s-ukraine-misinformation-for-domestic-propaganda-/6972765.html

Is Ukraine going to "win" in the end, no. But this guy has been so wrong every step of the way I'm not sure why anyone takes him seriously anymore. He's literally been wrong on all of his predictions. Eventually a broken clock is on time and he'll eventually get lucky and say "see I told you so." That's what Macgregor is, a broken clock pundit looking for post retirement money. That podcast literally has 5k subs. He's literally going to bottom of the barrel channels to get his BS content out.

Get him on a legit channel that questions him. Doesn't pander to his FORMER status. He'll get his ass handed to him.

Latest from Col. Douglas Macgregor:

Col. Douglas Macgregor: The Media is Lying - Putin Knows EXACTLY What He's Doing!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4YEF79-9EE

Need to stop with MacGregor. He's a Colonel. Bullshit artist looking for his fame. He's been wrong about everything about Ukraine and Russia. He's not even a General. Yes a higher rank, but no where near the top. He has no inside sources that can tell him anything without them risking their rank and job. We're pushing 3 years now with this clown.

I really don't care about the conflict, but I've never seen a personality wrong 100% of the time. He's going on podcasts that have 8k subs for christ sake. It's podcasters thinking he'll give them a boost.

WookieMan says

"Need to stop with MacGregor. He's a Colonel. Bullshit artist... He's been wrong about everything about Ukraine and Russia... I've never seen a personality wrong 100% of the time..."

How is MacGregor wrong?

Is Ukraine winning and taking back Eastern Ukraine and the Crimea? Answer: No.

How about the Kursk invasion - Is Ukraine advancing towards Moscow? Answer No.

In fact, the entire Ukrainian front collapsed and Ukraine is suffering a massive humiliating defeat.

Great synopsis from Col. Macgregor regarding the latest developments of the Middle East and the lost cause in Ukraine:

COL. Douglas Macgregor: Israel is getting SLAUGHTERED in Lebanon, Americans are trapped

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWS1DoNRWq4

RayAmerica says

COL. Douglas Macgregor: Israel is getting SLAUGHTERED in Lebanon, Americans are trapped

LOL.

Israel has a few million people. If soldiers were getting slaughtered, there's no way to hide it.

You can hide 1000 soldiers getting slaughtered among 100s of millions in an army of half a million or more. You can't in a country of a few million were every 18-year old serves.

They just knocked out the THIRD replacement for Nasrallah in barely as many days. RyLiberty must be shitting his pants in depression.

The_Deplorable says

How is MacGregor wrong?

Is Ukraine winning and taking back Eastern Ukraine and the Crimea? Answer: No.

How about the Kursk invasion - Is Ukraine advancing towards Moscow? Answer No.

In fact, the entire Ukrainian front collapsed and Ukraine is suffering a massive humiliating defeat.

He said that Russia would win in weeks. It's been years. I'm talking about the douche bags predictions, duh? He's been wrong every step of the way. Prove otherwise?

He's also made other predictions that have been wrong. He's a fucking colonel. Not a general. He's a dip shit. Just own he doesn't know anyone or what he's talking about. He's a regular citizen that has no information. Fine he was higher ranked, doesn't negate that he's a fucking retard with bad teeth.

I've said numerous times, I don't have a pony in this race. Russia looks like shit. Fact. US looks like shit. Fact. Ukraine always looked like shit. Fact. What is the outcome you want? All are bad. I don't know if you're voting for Trump but this is his god damn point. This is stupid. It's a Eurasian war that could last 10 more years and cost 1M+ lives in a time of general peace.

Fact is Mcgregor is an idiot. You know it too. He's going on podcasts with 5k subs, not 3M. He's an attention whore that knows nothing. I think you know that as well. You just side with an idiot.

WookieMan says

"He said that Russia would win in weeks."

No he didn't.

Russia is fighting a war of attrition and it is working! The Ukrainian front has collapsed
and Ukrainians are surrendering by the thousands.

Ukrainian ground forces were just active inside Russia proper in Kursk Oblast.

The Russians themselves don't dispute this.

It's all propaganda. Ukraine is on Western Life Support with 4-5M people as refugees who will probably never return and would have long since collapsed with the US and EU paying the pensions and salaries and repairing all the infrastructure damage and providing constant replacement of industrial and military vehicles.

But also, Russia has a crapsack of an Army that SHOULD have overwhelmed Ukraine by sheer force of numbers, but made a series of dumb decisions and ended up having to retreat because the UA units they ploughed out of the way were able to reform and then cut their supply lines behind them. Now it's all drones and missile strikes and small unit actions here and there.

AmericanKulak says

Russia has a crapsack of an Army that SHOULD have overwhelmed Ukraine by sheer force of numbers, but made a series of dumb decisions

One other reason as well - Putin found out after the invasion that much of the money earmarked to equip, maintain, and supply tanks and related equipment was pilfered leaving many units with hardware that was unfit to deploy.

The_Deplorable says

WookieMan says

"He said that Russia would win in weeks."

No he didn't.

Russia is fighting a war of attrition and it is working! The Ukrainian front has collapsed
and Ukrainians are surrendering by the thousands.

Read my friend. Watch. He's been wrong the whole way: https://www.newsweek.com/what-putin-wing-ex-colonel-douglas-macgregor-has-said-about-ukraine-war-1689802

He's stupid. Not really an argument to be had. He's not even top brass and has no insider info. He's looking to get a gig on a network as a military analyst. That's his game. He's been wrong for over 2 years and counting.

I give no shits about Ukraine and Russia. They'll always be in combat till we die. Fuck 'em. Macgregor is a fucking moron though. Eventually he'll be right, but a broken clock is right twice a day. Maybe he'll get once a year if he's lucky?

richwicks says

At least he recognizes at this point there's no way for Ukraine to win this conflict,

Does winning mean getting the russians to leave and you live with the ruins and destruction of the country and the massive amounts of dead citizens?

komputodo says

richwicks says

At least he recognizes at this point there's no way for Ukraine to win this conflict,

Does winning mean getting the russians to leave and you live with the ruins and destruction of the country and the massive amounts of dead citizens?

If the Russians win they have to deal with the destruction. I guess that's a win? Stupid war either way. Russia is not winning by any metric. They will if a cease fire agreement does happen, but there are no signs of Russia winning 3 years deep into this. This is a decade long war.

Voting Trump, but his bluster on this is BS. This has devolved way too much. Russia now knows we have the Israel situation on our hands. They can do what they want including war crimes. They'll just start killing civilians and mowing them down. I don't agree, but we'll defend Israel over Ukraine. I don't want to defend any of them. They produce literally nothing for Americans.

This war could have been ended 2 years ago had not Boris flown in last minute to piss and shit all over the peace agreement that was signature ready between the Ukes and the Russkies.

WookieMan says

Russia is not winning by any metric.

Ukraine is not part of NATO and the world is more aware of globalist meddling. That is not a loss for Russia

Onvacation says

WookieMan says

Russia is not winning by any metric.

Ukraine is not part of NATO and the world is more aware of globalist meddling. That is not a loss for Russia

I've made dozens of comments on this. I give little to no shits about either country. We held 2 countries for at least 15 years each. We lost more people in Chicago in that time than soldiers in those two countries. Russia and Ukraine have both likely lost 6 figures plus compared to about 4,800 over a decade in a half with our shit show in the ME. Really think about it. It's nearing just 3 years.

Russia looks weak. Ukraine was never dominant in anything. My prediction is Ukraine gives up land and joins NATO in a peace deal. That's a major loss to Russia. They're walled in. That's the end game here. Give them the land, but Russia done fucked up in the long run. There's no other way to spin it. I don't want to give Ukraine anymore money, but I know what the goals are.

We're building a wall and this is the last brick. Using Ukraine as a pawn while weakening Russia. Ukraine will be a NATO country at some point.

Fact is Russia has had plenty of time to come to the table. They won't. Why? There's no one actually thinking of even invading them. They made their own bed. I don't care if nukes get lobbed. I don't fear death because you can't avoid it and I'm not sure I want to grow super old. Give me the codes and this would have been done 2 years ago.

Trump, the Economy & World War III: Col. Douglas Macgregor’s Shocking Predictions


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omnMNMyDGPo