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In case you are not familiar with Col. Macgregor, here's a short video you may find interesting and informative:

Terrible damage - The Russians are now extremely angry with us
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvFH-d-nOdM

The fact he is still allowed on youtube is a bit of a red flag.

The fact that he helped fight the Iraq war is another red flag.

Be cautious with ANYBODY that were EVER in positions of power in the government.

All the information is out there, if you can filter it, and find the nuggets. There's people who do it, and do it well. They aren't allowed to post on youtube, they are not allowed to be on Facebook, and only a handful were allowed back on Twitter.

Just be cautious.

Obviously a Russkie infiltrator spreading propaganda that Ukraine is losing. He has the audacity to claim that Bakhmut was overtaken by Russians and that there were even Ukrainian casualties.

richwicks says

The fact he is still allowed on youtube is a bit of a red flag.

The fact that he helped fight the Iraq war is another red flag.

Be cautious with ANYBODY that were EVER in positions of power in the government.

All the information is out there, if you can filter it, and find the nuggets. There's people who do it, and do it well. They aren't allowed to post on youtube, they are not allowed to be on Facebook, and only a handful were allowed back on Twitter.

Just be cautious.

Don't be ridiculous. He was an army Colonel during that time, of course he "helped" to fight the Iraq war. It was his job. Not everybody knows everything and not everybody deserts because there are inaccuracies in the narrative. You have to have strong evidence of wrong doing or treason to desert. These days on patnet nobody who isn’t embodiment or reincarnation of Rosa parks and MLK at the same time can be trusted!

mell says

These days on patnet nobody who isn’t embodiment or reincarnation of Rosa parks and MLK at the same time can be trusted!

You actually trust Rosa and MLK?

Onvacation says

mell says

These days on patnet nobody who isn’t embodiment or reincarnation of Rosa parks and MLK at the same time can be trusted!

You actually trust Rosa and MLK?

I trust most people setting out to better society with their plight. Some politicians have been eternally corrupt scumbags from birth on, many become scumbags as they move through the system, some stay at least net good and very few stay pure

mell says

Don't be ridiculous. He was an army Colonel during that time, of course he "helped" to fight the Iraq war. It was his job.

Look, this is definition of war:

"Open and declared conflict between the armed forces of two or more states or nations."

https://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/War

This is the oath he took when he joined the military

"I, _, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God."

And here's Article 1, Section 8:

The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties [etc] .... To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;

https://www.archives.gov/founding-docs/constitution-transcript

Is the Authorization to Use Military Force in Iraq a declaration of war? No, it's not.

Look, if I knew Iraq was bullshit, certainly Douglas Macgregor did. I'm tired of these people playing stupid, and pretending they are dumber than I am. I'm tired of treason, of violations of the law, and then being compelled once a year to pretend anybody whose been killed in the military "died for our freedoms".

Our freedoms are dead. Our Constitution is dead.

mell says

You have to have strong evidence of wrong doing or treason to desert. These days on patnet nobody who isn’t embodiment or reincarnation of Rosa parks and MLK at the same time can be trusted!

I'm saying be cautious about trusting anybody in the government has any moral or legal principles to stand on. I've listened to Macgregor and I think he's controlled opposition. He's the relief valve designed for people like me. "Oh, finally somebody is telling the truth!!" - yeah to the choir that already know it.

So far, I have been 100% right about the last 7 wars, and the (approximate) expected outcome. I hope I'm wrong this time, but I think this is a proxy war, it may very well destabilize NATO, it's going to get like 10% of the Western Ukrainian population killed (no idea on the Eastern side), it's going to cost at least 5 trillion dollars, and it will drag on for YEARS and the United States, as usual will get absolutely nothing out of it.

I know Putin isn't the cause of inflation, currently, but in time, he will be. We are going to spend an absolute fortune on this war, and we're going to lose it. Russia will get East Ukraine, what remains will be landlocked, and might even break up.

Just about everything I've heard from Col. Macgregor is the direct opposite of the propaganda narrative of the lame stream media, and, his predictions based upon his analysis have proven that he knows what he is talking about. Just one example: when the media was claiming that Russia would lose Bakhmut and that they were suffering enormous casualties, he emphatically stated that that was absolute rubbish, and, that Russia would prevail. They did exactly that, which Biden, NATO and their lackeys in the media immediately sought to diminish. Bakhmut was a disaster for Ukraine and a huge setback.

Macgregor was also the first one that I heard explain that Russia was not fighting a real war, and that if they were, Kiev would have ceased to exist within the first two weeks. IMO, the man is a very credible source.

RayAmerica says

Macgregor was also the first one that I heard explain that Russia was not fighting a real war,

They are fighting a proxy war, to exhaust resources of NATO and the United States. The purpose isn't to "win" the war in Ukraine, it's to deplete resources of the "true" enemy, which is NATO and the United States.

Now this war COULD end earlier, if the United States makes peace with Russia but I doubt that will happen. The election was stolen in 2020, and it will be stolen in 2024, even if a rotting corpse has to be elected.

richwicks says

Look, if I knew Iraq was bullshit, certainly Douglas Macgregor did.

No, you found out for sure after the fact like many others when the reports confirmed there were no WMDs. Sure one may have suspected that the initial "info" was doctored or inconclusive, but that doesn't justify deserting.

mell says

richwicks says

Look, if I knew Iraq was bullshit, certainly Douglas Macgregor did.

No, you found out for sure after the fact like many others when the reports confirmed there were no WMDs. Sure one may have suspected that the initial "info" was doctored or inconclusive, but that doesn't justify deserting.

Let me explain how I knew. First, there was Scott Ritter, who was chief weapons inspector of Iraq up until 1998. He was saying he didn't find any, not that there weren't any, he just didn't find any evidence of it.

There was the presentation that Colin Powell gave in front of the UN with CARTOON PICTURES of "mobile weapons labs" - I know what kind of satellite technology we had back then, they would have presented real pictures instead of artist renditions, if they had any, and they didn't.

There was "the anthrax" scare - remember that? So Judith Miller, the "reporter" that had all this inside information from somebody (turned out to be Ahmed Chabali - but it wasn't known then) reporting on all this evidence she supposedly had. She received a FAKE anthrax letter, the only one I know of that was fake, where everybody that received a real one in congress were in opposition to the Iraq War.

There was Colin Powell showing the infamous vial of anthrax at the UN, holding it up. That was certainly a prop.

There were the claims that Hussein worked with binLaden - remember that? Well, Hussein KILLED religious leaders, because he was struggling against them to stay in power. He wouldn't work with binLaden, besides, binLaden is a Saudi. They don't like one another. There was no evidence at all Hussein had anything to do with 9/11, because he didn't.

The yellowcake claims were false. The document that purported to support these claims of Hussein buying yellow cake from Nigeria was an obvious forgery, because in the document it listed officials that had LONG been out of power so "we can't wait for the final proof to come in the form of a mushroom cloud" were total bullshit and fear mongering. Took like a couple of days for people to start pointing that out.

Now I knew all this, before March 2003. I'm not some brilliant researcher either, all you had to do is listen to people trying to tell you the truth, verify they were telling the truth, and that was it. TONS of people were trying to stop the war from starting. People can and do lie, but anybody that makes a claim, it's EASY to verify. Here's the forged Niger documents:

https://cryptome.org/niger-docs.htm

Now I don't know who the long retired officials were now, but somebody back in late 2002 did, and told me, and I checked (that's pretty easy to do), and yup, the long retired people were out of the government, and they were in the document.

Now, I didn't know "for sure", but I knew my government was without doubt lying, and they knew they were lying. I fully expected that the US was going to plant weapons of mass destruction in Iraq at the end of the war, shocked they didn't. I thought Bush was a particular special evil too.

It's not that hard to know, especially if you're interested in knowing.

The government only lies this hard, when they have to lie, this hard. Haha, in 2002 I was writing "the news" and trying to share knowledge with them back then. I was so naive. Filled up comments sections in news stories (they all had them back then), and I learned a LOT of information from those comment sections, and shared a lot of information in those comment sections.

How could military intelligence know less than I did? Or the CIA? The runup to the war was like, what 18 months? Macgregor didn't hear any of this, and he's about to go to war with Iraq, to kill 800,000 people - he had NO curiosity to find out? I'd make GODDAMNED certain if I was off to kill a bunch of people, that I was justified in doing it.

Let me give you a counter example of how to justify a war better: Putin has told Russians that the "intervention" in Ukraine is because Russian citizens are being killed in Donbass by Western Ukraine. This is true. I doubt Putin cares, but it's an excuse. Putin has also tried to reach a ceasefire for 8 years before he finally invaded, this is true, the Minsk Accords and it was the EU that prevented them from being implemented - the Minsk Accords would have ended the Ukrainian civil war. Putin has also said repeatedly that he believes Russia is threatened by NATO expansion - now maybe he doesn't actually feel that way, but the NATO has armed Ukraine, and they have defacto expanded. Putin, doesn't produce blatantly obvious propaganda. If he is lying (and he probably is), he's lying ONLY through omission.

I'm not saying that Putin's motivation for going into Ukraine are the reasons he's given, but he's not lied. His given reasons may not be the true reasons, but he's only given facts. That's what the US would do, if they had any facts to justify going into Iraq, and they didn't.

If the US did what Russia does to start a war, I'd still bitch about it - probably - but I wouldn't be able to say "Our government lied to start this war", and I can do that with Iraq, Libya, and Syria. Libya was hilarious "Qaddafi is taking viagra to rape little girls, we have to stop him!!!" Really? The US was going to go to war to stop one rapist? Jeffrey Epstein was a convicted sex offender in I think 2007 and he got a slap on the wrist, and HE was raping little girls, but we'll start a WAR to stop this.. Right. I believe Epstein built his own wing in the prison, and only had to be there to sleep for 3 years. "Oh! We're ever so concerned about Qaddafi raping little girls!!!"

With Syria, SOMEHOW ISIS continually got caught in US made vehicles and with US weaponry. The official story was that they were raiding armories in Iraq. Even if they weren't guarded, to prevent this, you just need an explosive that can be set off if they're breached. Is the US that dumb, not to take SIMPLE MEASURES to keep military weaponry out of the "wrong hands"? Ghouta, I don't know what happened (that was the first chemical attack) - it may have happened, but if it did I think it was a false flag. Douma didn't happen, but that was after the war began, two OPCW whistleblowers from the OPCW blew that up. Obama was warning Assad against using chemical weapons as far back as 2011, and said if he did, that would invite US intervention. So why would Assad use the ONE WEAPON that guaranteed a war with the United States? It's easy to bomb civilians, just as easy as it is to poison them, he had an airforce and a military. I somehow found out about Genie Energy's oil exploration in the Golan Heights (Syrian land, Israeli occupied), and then found out who was on the "Strategic Advisory Board" of Genie Energy:

https://governamerica.com/documents/genie-energy/

Anybody seem familiar?

There's SO MANY people who blow the whistle. I don't know if these people are credible until I check them, but then a strange thing started to happen. All the comments sections of all the news section were moving to facebook, and Disqus. My posts were being deleted, or shadowbanned. Disqus would put a post of mine into moderation permanently, and I would take screenshots, and post those, because it was an automated system, and it was being censored based off from keywords, but they didn't implement OCR for images. People would FREAK OUT when I proved "yeah, I did answer your question, why do you think it's being flagged for moderation?" with the picture of my post "in moderation". Good times. So many people who were die hard supporters of the Syrian war JUST COULDN'T UNDERSTAND why, when I'm being polite, just explaining the situation as I knew it, giving them sources, my original post would never show up. I wasn't naive by the time we started bombing Libya, and I was absolutely cynical by the time we started bombing Syria.

That was a good trip down memory lane probably NOBODY will read. Got through to more than a few people. Most people ARE good people, they just lack information, and that doesn't make them stupid. I was always careful not to make them feel stupid just because that hadn't heard or known something. These people were NPR and PBS diehards, or read the NY Times, or whatever. I blew a lot of minds, it was fun. I used to post to Jimmy Dore's page before he started getting red pilled on Obama. I wonder if his staff read anything I wrote? If I was careful, I could sneak in a message to lead him to water.

Part of the reason I'm like this is when I got onto the Internet, RAW NEWS FEEDS would show up on USENet, and I got to read unfiltered articles before they showed up in newspapers. I guess they did this for distribution, and it's not like it mattered much, hardly anybody was on the Internet. News was heavily curated back then, but we all thought USENet would be around forever back then. I figured by 2000, everybody would have direct access to information, and was quite shocked they didn't. I used to believe in the media, and I figured once they didn't "have to cut down articles for size" all the full stories would be available somewhere. Nope, USENet was just shutdown. I remember thinking "why don't they post links to documents?" - that used to confuse me "I guess they just don't know how to use hyperlinks" - NOPE. I was so naive.

mell says

Don't be ridiculous. He was an army Colonel during that time, of course he "helped" to fight the Iraq war. It was his job.

Exactly. We don’t have to trust everything the guy says just because he was an Army Col. but just because he was in the Army, especially at the relatively low level of colonel doesn’t mean he knew anything about the false narrative of WMD. And besides that, imagine he did and tried to blow the whistle. He would have been treated worse than Charles Lindbergh who opposed getting involved in World War 2. Learn your history. Most people who oppose the narrative end up paying a huge price for opposing the new world order globalists. Just ask Charles Lindbergh.
https://acepilots.com/pioneer/lindbergh3.html

PeopleUnited says

Exactly. We don’t have to trust everything the guy says just because he was an Army Col. but just because he was in the Army, especially at the relatively low level of colonel doesn’t mean he knew anything about the false narrative of WMD.

How could I know, and he couldn't?

Tired of this. They always play stupid and dumb and ignorant. For me to gather information is work, but I do it, in my SPARE time. These assholes don't? They don't even CONSIDER that they are going off to kill people over a LIE? Seriously? Killing people is a serious thing, they think nothing of it?

PeopleUnited says

imagine he did and tried to blow the whistle. He would have been treated worse than Charles Lindbergh who opposed getting involved in World War 2.

I would have respected him then.

Evil prevails when good men do nothing, and I'm starting to wonder if there are any good men?

Ehren Watada had some balls, at least. None of these neutered, pathetic, fops seem to have any.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ehren_Watada

These people don't show any courage, because they don't believe they can surmount evil. They are complete cowards. Ehren Watada was not a coward.

Yeah, there's a cost to being honest, there's a far greater cost to colluding, for future generations. 10% of the population at BEST aren't pussies.

The current generation is always bought out, bribed, enticed to betray their children, and most of them do.

McGregor hasn't been right about a single thing in that war since Feb-24, 2022. He is, to put it simply, a stupid cunt.

McGregor in interview with Fox news on Feb 27, 2022:

"The battle in eastern Ukraine is really almost over, all of the Ukrainian troops there have been largely surrounded and cut off. You have a concentration down in the Southeast of 30 or 40,000 of them, and if they don't surrender in the next 24 hours, I suspect Russia will ultimately annihilate them."

McGregor in early March, 2022:

"The first five days Russian forces I think frankly were too gentle," he said. "They've now corrected that. So, I would say another 10 days this should be completely over."

RWSGFY says

McGregor hasn't been right about a single thing in that war since Feb-24, 2022. He is, to put it simply, a stupid cunt.

I agree.

He makes bad predictions in order to demoralize people who actually understand this war.

Who states this war is a proxy war, and will go on for years? It will demolish the Ukrainian population, but it's not about to stop anytime soon. Russia will ultimately "win", but the purpose of this war is to create a Pyrrhic victory for Russia and I don't think the US or NATO can even achieve that.

We either have the stupidest mother fuckers possible in the Offence Department, or a 5th column. Russia will walk out of this murderous disaster fine, the US won't. Victoria Nuland, due to either her traitorousness or stupidity, should be at least executed. Why do we allow these fucking stupid assholes (or traitors?) to control our foreign policy?

We've gone through 20 years of their stupidity or treason. Find the weapons of mass destruction program in Iraq yet? Victoria Nuland was part of that, what did that war gain us? What has any war in the last 70 years gained us? They are all purposeless, no advantage at all by engaging in them.

Same stupid cunt in interview with Cucker Tarlson on the 3rd week of March, 2022:

"The war is really over for the Ukrainians,they have been grounded to bits. There's no question about that despite what we report on our mainstream media. "

The guy is a fucking genius.

McGregor in July 2022:

"The war, with the exception of Kharkiv and Odesa, as far as the Russians are concerned is largely over. ."

McGregor in September, 2022:

“This war may be over soon"

"The Ukrainian army is bled white, tens of thousands of Ukrainian troops have been killed or wounded, Ukraine is really on the ropes".

So yeah, listen to McGregor if you want your IQ to go below your body temp, LOL.

richwicks says

Who states this war is a proxy war

McGregor does:

Macgregor: Washington’s proxy war with Russia is the result of a carefully constructed plan to embroil Russia in conflict with its Ukrainian neighbor.

RWSGFY says

McGregor in September, 2022:

“This war may be over soon"

"The Ukrainian army is bled white, tens of thousands of Ukrainian troops have been killed or wounded, Ukraine is really on the ropes".

So yeah, listen to McGregor if you want your IQ to go below your body temp, LOL.

You've never shown any level of intelligence, so you shouldn't attack that. Probably you're not stupid though honestly, you're dishonest.

Macgregor I believe is controlled opposition. You have no ability to recognize nuance. He makes incorrect predictions and his job is to discredit himself. That's what he does.

The war will go on for years, and Trump will not be allowed to be elected, he might not even be allowed to run. This is a stupid proxy war, that will go one for years, and it will ultimately damage the United States with little to no damage to Russia.

richwicks says

You've never shown any level of intelligence

Look who's talking: a stupid cunt who's still looking for Nord Stream in the Black Sea. The same stupid cunt who was convinced that Maidan events of 2013-14 were instigated to shut down Nord Stream, which wasn't even conceived until 2015. LOL. Go listen to some more McGregor, amoeba: he's your kind of intellectual giant.