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WookieMan says

Fact is the Dems need to find an actual candidate.

I had high hopes that Kennedy could be that candidate, but then he comes out and supports the ridiculously corrupt US-instigated war in Ukraine, proving he's just another puppet after all.

Patrick says

WookieMan says

Fact is the Dems need to find an actual candidate.

I had high hopes that Kennedy could be that candidate, but then he comes out and supports the ridiculously corrupt US-instigated war in Ukraine, proving he's just another puppet after all.

Remember what politics is - in order to be in it, you have to be willing to lie. He MIGHT be lying, he might be ignorant, but even worse, he might be lying about Ukraine yet STILL support the war.

I can't see how our establishment in either party can't see Ukraine is just being fucked by this war. It's going to destroy the country one way or another. The death toll is horrific and I've heard as low as 150,000 Ukrainians dead up to 300,000 dead. The LOWEST estimate is just mind boggling for a country of 25 million people. They lowest estimate would be 0.6% of the population, double that to 1.2% because only men are fighting, and double it again because it's civil war and you get about 2.4%. Now if you double it again if it's at the highest estimate, that's about 5% of the male population of Western Ukraine. It's horrifying. That's 1 out of 20 men.

Kennedy is the best out of the bunch on the DNC side. For RNC, I would say Trump then DeSantis and I don't trust DeSantis.

Any candidate blessed by the establishment will be yet another disaster.

PeopleUnited says

The witch hunt is to discredit Trump enough with the swing voters that they can push through some milquetoast globalist schill in either the primary or general election.

Correct. Many people who would vote for Trump will not because Trump is now "divisive" of "controversial."

PeopleUnited says

There will still be enough ballot harvesting in swing districts to change the outcome of the election. Democrats counting votes, or worse yet, “computers” counting votes, guarantees fraud.

Correct. They know they will get away with fraud, so the strategy will be to manufacture ballots in critical districts.

PeopleUnited says

The Dems don’t need a candidate, As long as they have a RINO/Trojan horse globalist schill like DeSantis or Chris Christie they win even if they lose.

You know - at some point you guys will have to show some real evidence and ACTIONS supporting the lame and retarded claim that DeSantis is some sort of "Globalist Schill".

If I stack up the actual governing accomplishments of DeSantis against Trump's governing accomplishments of Trump going soft on crime, doing nothing about education, doing nothing about spending, being soft on the LGBTQ+ mafia, allowing Fauci to shut the country down and generally getting circles run around him by the Deep State - it is a no brainer IMO.

If Trump was smart - he would be stepping back and putting his support around DeSantis hoping he will get a pardon.

IF the purported video is true of Trump opening his big mouth and bragging and showing off Iran battle plans to people lacking security clearance and acknowledging that he didn't declassify the docs while President - I think Trump's goose is cooked - and rightfully so.

Trump was the first President I can recall who didn’t start any wars.

DeSantis certainly will, if given a chance, or at least he will continue Ukraine. Trump might actually be able to end it.

PeopleUnited says

Trump might actually be able to end it.

It would end as soon as Trump won the election.

https://protrumpnews.com/donald-trump-widens-lead-over-primary-field-post-indictment/

Donald Trump Widens Lead Over Primary Field Post Indictment

The indictment of Donald Trump is making him even stronger.

According to a post-indictment CBS Poll, Donald Trump continues to dominate the GOP primary.

He has his biggest lead yet.

Twitter:

Trump — 61% (+38)
DeSantis — 23%
T. Scott — 4%
Pence — 4%
Haley — 3%
Ramaswamy — 1%
Hutchinson — 1%
Burgum — 1%
Elder — 1%
Christie — 1%

Breitbart reported:

A poll indicates that former President Donald Trump has widened his lead in the GOP primary following the Department of Justice’s indictment of him for allegedly mishandling classified documents at his Florida home.

Surveying 1,798 potential voters between June 9-10 with a margin of error ±3.3 points, the CBS News poll showed the former president had 61 percent support in the Republican primary, leading his opponent, Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis by a full 38 points – 61 percent to 23 percent. Republican Sen. Tim Scott (SC) stands in third place with just 4 percent of support, just one point ahead of former U.N. Ambassador Nikki Haley.

The poll had more great news for Donald Trump.

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If I am a political target of the Democrat DOJ and FBI like a Soviet-era dissident, I rather be tried in a federal court in Miami then in a Democrat of Woke shithole like Tallahassee, New York City, Atlanta, or Alexandria, Virginia.

It will be less of a chance of a Soviet Show Trial.

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HeadSet says

PeopleUnited says

Trump might actually be able to end it.

It would end as soon as Trump won the election.

I envy your faith.

I honestly do. This isn't to insult your or diminish you, but my hope doesn't come from god, or any faith, it's experience.

I don't think Trump will be allowed to run, and even if he's allowed to run and even he's made president, he won't be allowed to end the war.

I have NO FAITH in this government at all. None. And I don't believe there's a super entity looking over us. I wish I could believe it. I don't even think 1/2 the people on this planet are even human at this point, seriously. They are more robot than human. I hear the television babble come out of them all the time.

The liberals, democrats, losers, fags, trannies and their ilk all remind me of the girls I have dated when they get drunk; they all act out their rage and never consider that the consequences are negative for them, leaving me unscathed.

Any thinking liberal (a contradiction) would see that they are turning Trump into a martyr with all of the bullshit about nothing.

What's next?; they kick down your door and say "You didn't save the last 7 years of your 1040! Book him Danno!"

I hope that Trump stomps their sorry loser asses into the dirt, and the guilty go to prison to bust rocks under the hot sun.

richwicks says

I don't think Trump will be allowed to run, and even if he's allowed to run and even he's made president, he won't be allowed to end the war.

The Commiecrats are running the Leftist playbook that has been played in every country that has had a Nationalist leader elected as their leader.
The Left in those countries did everything they could to undermine them, and when they failed, they trumped up bullshit charges. Many were even arrested.
In every single instance, not only did that Conservative populist beat those cases, but went on to win the next election, or had the Global Homo apparatus steal the election they would have won in a landslide.
Lefty idiots will keep trying the same thing over and over, even when they saw it fail when other's tried it.

It happened in Hungary, Italy, Israel and Brazil. It will be no different here.
Lula will end up in jail eventually and Bolanario will be the President of Brazil again.

ad says

It will be less of a chance of a Soviet Show Trial.

I dunno. Miami is quite woke as well, and I am sure they shopped for the correct judge. "Even a red state court convicted him!"

socal2 says

real evidence and ACTIONS supporting the lame and retarded claim that DeSantis is some sort of "Globalist Schill

He is liked by supporters of the Ukraine war.

ad says

less of a chance of a Soviet Show Trial.

It IS a show trial!

Democrats, Media and the Deep-state are playing us like a drum. Conservatives and Libertarians are supposed to be about logic and recognize the world for the flaws we have, but we are letting our emotions get the best of us and we are sleepwalking into another bloodbath if we nominate Trump - IMO.

IF the reporting on the video is true of Trump showing classified battle plans to people and bragging that they were still classified - this is incredibly illegal
and reckless incompetence by Trump to give the Democrats and the Deep-state this much ammunition.

Doesn't matter how much we say "But Hillary" or complain about a biased judicial system - a jury is only going to see the video tape of Trump bragging about committing a crime. These aren't insignificant mementos. Battle plans aren't the personal papers or documents of Trump.

Despite some notable accomplishments on judges, immigration and foreign policy, Trump was awful on domestic policy, having no experience, staff or skill to dismantle our corrupt Government bureaucracies. Trump bailed on his allies like Flynn in a New York minute, gave Bureaucrats like Fauci and Wray free reign and is now bad mouthing all of his former staff that were halfway competent. Who the fuck is going to work with Trump 2.0 that has any skill?

Before Trump turned all Liberal this past month, DeSantis shared 98% of Trump's positions and has the experience, brains and DISCIPLINE to dismantle the FBI and DOJ. DeSantis is also polling better against any Democrat than Trump currently is in the General.

But we are to believe that DeSantis is a secret Globalist Homo (because reasons??) and that Only Trump can get done in 4 years what he failed to do in 2016-2020........all the while Trump is even more handicapped by indictments, age, not competent staff and term limits?

Are we really this fucking retarded?

socal2 says

Are we really this fucking retarded?

Depends, who did you vote for?

Onvacation says

Depends, who did you vote for?

I voted for Trump in 2020 and will vote for him again above any Democrat in 24. I think Trump is getting screwed, but he is also bringing alot of this onto himself.

What I won't accept is that Trump was perfect and he is the ONLY candidate that can win in 24 and get things done.

Here is Trump just a few years ago defending his pick of Wray at the FBI because Democrats liked him and Chris Christie vouched for him. There are so many painful examples like this where Trump made very bad decisions on personnel and policy because he wanted to be liked by his former Democrat friends and assholes in the Media and Hollywood.

https://twitter.com/NvrBackDown24/status/1668419225185026048

socal2 says

What I won't accept is that Trump was perfect and he is the ONLY candidate that can win in 24 and get things done.

Who's claiming Trump is perfect? He's better than Biden.

DeSantis reminds me of Romney; a spoiler of elections secretly working for the communists trying to take over America.

socal2 says

There are so many painful examples like this where Trump made very bad decisions on personnel and policy

Agreed. It makes you wonder if he is just a hired actor paid for by the very deep state he claims to battle.

socal2 says

But we are to believe that DeSantis is a secret Globalist Homo (because reasons??)

The need for reasons flew out of window loooooong time ago. Now just a proclamation is enough.

Onvacation says

DeSantis reminds me of Romney; a spoiler of elections secretly working for the communists trying to take over America.

FFS - this is why we can't have nice things and why we are governed by Liberal retards.

It is becoming next to impossible to make a Conservative case for Trump's ability to win, let alone his ability to govern - so we are back to dopey attacks on DeSantis. At least you are not making Leftist attacks against DeSantis record like Trump and his surrogates have made in recent weeks.

We are to believe DeSantis' entire life's accomplishments and record over the past 20 years (which are substantial if you claim to be against Leftism) has all been a sUpeR sEcret head-fake to usher in Communism for this moment in 2024?

BTW - here you our boy Paul Ryan this week making Trump's argument that it is a mistake to battle the left on the culture wars.
https://twitter.com/CurtisHouck/status/1668604854539804674

And here is Trump praising Paul Ryan to remind all of us on how weak Trump is about judging character.
https://twitter.com/realstickyclick/status/1668672235983257620

Tenpoundbass says

Lula will end up in jail eventually and Bolanario will be the President of Brazil again.

I don't know. Glenn Greenwald is in Brazil, and he helped expose that Lula wasn't guilty. He's also the same person that exposed the Snowden files.

It's not left or right, it's right versus wrong, truth versus fiction.

The "left" isn't necessarily bad, they just have a much more complex system that can be corrupted.

The "left" thinks they can control government although they have never been proven to be able to do that, the "right" thinks the government is uncontrollable and therefore want to limit it. That's the real difference.

socal2 says

What I won't accept is that Trump was perfect and he is the ONLY candidate that can win in 24 and get things done.

Haha, his imperfection is his gift.

Biden is perfect, Obama was perfect, George W. Bush was perfect, in their complete dishonesty and corruption. Hillary Clinton would have been, as would Mitt Romney, John McCain, John Kerry, and Al Gore.

Stop looking for perfection, and look for absolute corruption. Joe Biden is OPENLY selling access to his office. He's just a moron because it's so obvious, I'm certain Obama did the same and George W. Bush did as well. Clinton did.

How did Obama make 12 million dollars to buy a beach house on Martha's Vineyard? Well, he accepted a bribe to change the national curriculum for common core math. This made Random House 1/2 billion dollars with new books, and he got 60 million out of the deal for a memoir you've never seen or read - so what if our entire nation's kid's don't learn fundamental math?

He seriously got a 60 million dollar book deal for his memoirs. What's the book? Nobody knows, because nobody cares. You've never read it, and you've never heard of it. It was a bribe.

Don't believe it?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4268966/Barack-Michelle-Obama-memoirs-fetch-60-million.html

Until you recognize the corruption, it will continue.

Books, art, jobs, speaking fees etc are bribes.

socal2 says

It is becoming next to impossible to make a Conservative case for Trump's ability to win, let alone his ability to govern - so we are back to dopey attacks on DeSantis. At least you are not making Leftist attacks against DeSantis record like Trump and his surrogates have made in recent weeks.

I haven't bashed Desantis too much. Trump has owned his looks for decades. And yes, females vote based on looks. His voice is whiney and Trump's direct and at a 5th grade level so pretty much EVERYONE can understand what he's saying. And he's funny. Desantis lacks charisma and impromptu speaking. I don't think he's "bad" though.

No one can really say for sure that his policy will be that much different than most of the current GOP. We simply don't know. Saying and doing are different on the national level. Trump has a track record with flaws and all.

And again, the 800 pound gorilla in the room. The lower educated Trump voters just won't show on election day in November. That could easily be 5% of republican aligned voter/MAGA voters AND result in massive losses in Congress. In certain House districts Trump lost because of cheating but the Republican won the House seat. AmericanKulak I think has posted on this before.

Assuming republicans don't cheat, he got the most popular votes in history besides Biden's phantom votes. And again, if Trump and Desantis can unite at some point and he's VP, you have a backstop if there's more impeachment shit and we'll likely keep the House and that makes the current GOP happy probably.

Desantis is young enough to have his chance in '28. Trump is going to make him look bad is all I'll say if he goes too far along the primary process. He's getting rocked in polling even after Trump's NY charge and the Federal indictment.

This is more about strategy of actually winning and Desantis could get on the job training so to speak. Desantis won't win against Biden as sad as that sounds. He loses a good chunk of the MAGA voters if he's the nominee. This is literally what did Hillary in. She lost the Bernie voters. Same will happen in reverse. Deasantis is polling lower than Bernie as well when comparing 2015.

Remember if Trump wins he's gone if 4 years. It would take a Constitutional amendment to get a 3rd term. Not happening. He also won't be in 24/7 "campaign" mode from the office in a 2nd term. He'll just leave. Could promote Desantis IF he's VP and running in 2028. My argument is for strategy in the future, nothing against Desantis besides the voice and face for now. It's possible to lock up the executive branch for 12 years and SCOTUS for maybe 40-50 years. It's important to get this right and I just don't think it's Desantis' time.

socal2 says

FFS - this is why we can't have nice things and why we are governed by Liberal retards.

No. It's because the criminal syndicate that runs this country wants all the nice things for themselves.

Troll harder.

socal2 says

We are to believe DeSantis' entire life's accomplishments and record over the past 20 years (which are substantial if you claim to be against Leftism) has all been a sUpeR sEcret head-fake to usher in Communism for this moment in 2024?

Sounds right. The Yale educated Guantanamo lawyer should finish his term as governor.

https://palexander.substack.com/p/joe-rogan-is-100-correct-on-this

Joe Rogan is 100% correct, on this, I give him high marks "Joe Rogan: Biden DOJ’s Trump Indictments Are the ‘Actions of a Banana Republic’"; Rogan then mentioned how President Joe Biden mishandled

classified documents but is not facing the same persecution as Trump. “You take your political rival and you arrest him and specifically, you charge him with things that you’re fucking guilty of..."

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/08/03/joe-rogan-biden-dojs-trump-indictments-are-the-actions-of-a-banana-republic/

The most absurd thing about his persecution by the assholes in the Biden DOJ is the press reports it like it's actually a crime to complain about election fraud.

The second most absurd thing is that the indictment claims that 1. Trump complained about the election AND 2. Trump knew that the election was not a fraud but said so anyway.

I guess the millions of us who think it was a fraud and the thousands to went to DC to complain about the election fraud were also actually aware that there was no fraud but we just were fucking with everyone's mind?

Biden wants to run against Trump - many demon rats said so. This is their way to ensure Trump's nomination. No way court proceedings are done by election day, so it's not a way to stop him
from participating in the election.

Patrick says

Fraud Squad

original link

https://dailycaller.com/2023/08/04/trump-jokes-he-needs-one-more-indictment-to-win-election/

Former President Donald Trump joked Friday that he would win the 2024 election if he was hit with “one more indictment” during a speech before a dinner held by the Alabama Republican Party.

https://babylonbee.com/news/trump-indicted-for-us-womens-soccer-defeat

U.S. — Former President Trump is facing yet another indictment, this time for mocking U.S. Women's soccer after their embarrassing loss to Sweden over the weekend.

"The sanctity of U.S. Women's soccer is never to be made fun of," said Special Council Jack Smith after reading the charges. "Every one of those highly attractive and beautiful women is both stunning and brave. We believe Trump violated the constitution somehow by making fun of them on Truth Social, and we will prove it as soon as we can figure out which law he broke."

According to sources, Trump posted the words "Nice shot Megan" shortly after Megan Rapinoe's terrible shot in which she kicked the ball like a girl and missed a penalty kick by a mile. "Such cruel, calloused, sexist behavior from Trump must be an obstruction of justice somehow. Or maybe a violation of some obscure 18th-century federal law governing sporting events. We'll get back to you," said Smith to reporters.

Sources within the U.S. Women's team confirmed all the players were distraught by Trump's mockery and are begging authorities to arrest him before it can happen again. "Please," said one anonymous source. "Our democracy depends on it."

At publishing time, the U.S. Women's Team had demanded higher pay to compensate for their emotional suffering following Trump's social media post.