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Trump to be indicted on Fed Charges as early as this week


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2023 Jun 6, 10:12am   14,235 views  110 comments

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A federal grand jury is expected to meet in Florida to hear testimony about former President Donald Trump's alleged mishandling of classified documents.

The Wall Street Journal reported that the grand jury is part of the investigation conducted by special counsel Jack Smith. It's separate from a Washington, D.C. grand jury that's been hearing testimony in the documents case.

People close to the investigation said Smith was trying to tie up loose ends before a possible indictment.

NBC News confirmed that a grand jury was meeting in Florida.

"Why prosecutors are using multiple grand juries, and whether they are ready to seek an indictment in either jurisdiction is unknown," the NBC News report noted. "The Justice Department declined to comment on the investigation."

On Monday, attorneys for Trump met with officials at the Department of Justice to argue he should not be indicted.
https://www.rawstory.com/donald-trump-florida-grand-jury/

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26   PeopleUnited   2023 Jun 9, 9:02pm  

AmericanKulak says

It's to protect...

(FILL IN THE BLANK)

The globalists system. Romney’s kid, and a bunch of others are also on the take. That’s how the globalists pay their minions.
29   clambo   2023 Jun 10, 7:40pm  

The most absurd thing is the Presidential Records Act has no crimnal penalty in it.
There's no way they can charge Trump with violating the Espionage Act, which is entirely different.
Edit: Evidently they are trying to pin Espionage Act charges on Trump.
This is absolutely absurd and will not withstand scrutiny.
So, Trump was " selling secrets to our enemies " or similar.
They really are crazy with TDS.
30   Blue   2023 Jun 10, 7:50pm  

clambo says

The most absurd thing is the Presidential Records Act has no crimnal penalty in it..
There's no way they can charge Trump with violating the Espionage Act, which is entirely different.

This is really a dumb move by Biden/DOJ to slow down political opponent while having similar documents with Biden (perhaps Obama/Bush/Clinton etc).
31   HeadSet   2023 Jun 10, 9:59pm  

Blue says

This is really a dumb move by Biden/DOJ to slow down political opponent while having similar documents with Biden (perhaps Obama/Bush/Clinton etc).

Yes, and especially bad because Biden was Vice President with no declassification powers.
32   AD   2023 Jun 11, 12:16am  

At least in Miami there is less chance of a jury that will be dominated by Democrats and Wokes.

I would not want to be a dissident or political target of the Democrats tried in a court in New York City, Alexandria, VA, Tallahassee, etc.

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33   RayAmerica   2023 Jun 11, 7:26am  

AmericanKulak says

It's to protect...

(FILL IN THE BLANK)

My fill in the blank answer is the Deep State cabal that is stealing the American citizens blind. I have a lot of respect for Catherine Austin Fitts, who about a year ago conducted an investigation into the government's debt, using CBO official documents and data. To her amazement, she found that, officially, the CBO has over $21 TRILLION "missing and unaccounted for" from their books!

So where do you hide that unimaginable amount of money? In highly secret off shore accounts, where it is then eventually converted to jewels, precious metals, rare art, expensive real estate and even farm land.
35   WookieMan   2023 Jun 11, 10:27am  

Is anyone else just getting numb to this shit? There are legit incriminating things from past presidents and others. Nothing happens or rarely happens. And who gives a shit about classified documents? The bigger worry should be about corporate documents and especially those companies with government contracts.

I'm sure Trump has skeletons in the closet, but at this point I think the witch hunt is just a waste of time. Fact is the Dems need to find an actual candidate. Covid is over. I don't think mail in ballots will be as much this time around.
36   richwicks   2023 Jun 11, 4:57pm  

AmericanKulak says


Let's do that : with suspicions of USS Liberty motives, and assertions that Epstein worked for Mossad.


Oh my fucking god. Here: USS Liberty: https://www.usslibertyveterans.org/

They were there. There was no Congressional investigation, it was covered up. When the US government covers something up, it's because the US government was fucking involved with it.

Epstein and ISRAEL, might be Mossad - I don't know how many freaking intelligence agencies Israel has. Epstein's handler was Ghislaine Maxwell, and he was not a brilliant stock trader. He got his money from Les Wexner, who sold Epstein the NYC mansion he bought (which was previously a school), for $1.00. His long time "girlfriend" was Ghislaine Maxwell, whose father was a spy for Mi6, Mossad, and possibly the KGB - that's Robert Maxwell who after he was murdered, got an Israeli state funeral. The Maxwell family, is a family of spies.

It's like, how much fucking evidence do you want?

It's like Mostly Reader denying that there was a coup in Ukraine just because Victoria Nuland was deciding more than 2 weeks and 4 days before Yanukovych was ousted, I mean, it's not absolute proof, maybe it's just a 1 in a trillion coincidence! I can't wake up a man that pretends to sleep.
37   FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden   2023 Jun 11, 5:46pm  

you can’t and you don’t need to. reality eventually wakes people up when illusion can no longer be maintained by curtain pullers.
38   PeopleUnited   2023 Jun 11, 8:16pm  

WookieMan says

Is anyone else just getting numb to this shit?

You mean Numb to the TDS that has dominated media and now Biden and other deranged maniac Dems are continuing it by taking it to the next level by weaponizing the government to attack the biggest threat to their power, a populist with more votes than any other sitting president In American history?WookieMan says

There are legit incriminating things from past presidents and others.

Yes, but those people supported the deep state globalists. It seems that to some degree Trump did not.WookieMan says

at this point I think the witch hunt is just a waste of time.

The witch hunt is to discredit Trump enough with the swing voters that they can push through some milquetoast globalist schill in either the primary or general election.

WookieMan says

Fact is the Dems need to find an actual candidate


The Dems don’t need a candidate, As long as they have a RINO/Trojan horse globalist schill like DeSantis or Chris Christie they win even if they lose.

WookieMan says

Covid is over. I don't think mail in ballots will be as much this time around.

There will still be enough ballot harvesting in swing districts to change the outcome of the election. Democrats counting votes, or worse yet, “computers” counting votes, guarantees fraud.
39   richwicks   2023 Jun 11, 8:48pm  

PeopleUnited says

The Dems don’t need a candidate, As long as they have a RINO/Trojan horse globalist schill like DeSantis or Chris Christie they win even if they lose.


^^^^ THIS ^^^^

People think DeSantis is just great because he put the breaks on the stupid covid policies and ended some bullshit in the culture war.

We're facing a direct confrontation with Russia, a nuclear super power. We are still involved with Yemen, Somalia, and Syria and we're funding Ukraine which is just getting Ukrainians killed.

These wars are bankrupting this nation.

Illegal immigrants are and important issue as well. We have a MAJOR problem with our bureaucracy. If he does nothing with them, nothing important will change.

You might well point out he's ended a lot of this transkids bullshit in Florida. How many kids does this effect? Estimates place the current number of "transkids" at about 0.7% of the population, and Florida isn't that much on extreme liberalism.

Still, I think they will steal the election for the Democrats. Part of the reason they do this is to underscore that we can't vote our way out of this.
40   richwicks   2023 Jun 11, 9:11pm  

AmericanKulak says


Here you go: The content creator compares Irving's claims to the Primary Source Material, and finds Irving added and distorted what was reported, per Evans, who testified for the Defense at Irving vs. Penguin Books. Irving lost, by the way, with the Court deciding it was reasonable to call him a Holocaust Denier.
https://youtu.be/VsLW7VrOpA8?t=39


No specific examples are provided in that video of errors of Irving. The quotes of Richard J. Evans (if they ARE his quotes) are all just ad-hominem. These are 3rd party opinions.

There's no links to primary documents.

I don't want to read 3rd party accounts. My German is terrible, but translators aren't.

I know this is a hurdle to climb, but I'm forever fucking pissed off nobody links to documents. Nobody. I mean, is there not enough room on the Internet?

I'm not so much concerned about who Hitler was either. I'm concerned if Jewish bodies were being turned into soap and lampshades, and if 6 million people were killed in gas chambers. Those are the big lies.

This is the sort of shit I wade through on this subject:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhCbHZPwEEQ

"Max Blumenthal interviews Holocaust denier David Irving"

Irving isn't a holocaust denier. His position is simply that he cannot find any evidence of actual gas chambers, he can't find any orders to exterminate people in gas chambers. He believes PLENTY of Jews were killed, just there were no gas chamber camps. Why would there be?

If I was a sociopath and I wanted to just kill people, I'd shovel them on a train, and I'd fill the trains with carbon monoxide. They wouldn't even know what was happening. They'd get giddy first, then sleepy, then die. They'd have no idea what was happening to them unless they were experienced with oxygen deprivation. I wouldn't use a CYANIDE POISON. I might just use Nitrogen with no oxygen in the gas. That works just as well. I'm not a chemist, but I think that would be more difficult to do in 1940 something. I suppose you could remove oxygen by burning iron dust. You can burn a brillo pad.

AmericanKulak says

Walks viewer right through it, and asks the viewer to note the claims being made by Irving, and then compares them to the quotes made by participant of the event in question.


What book? What page? What speech? What video?

Why isn't that information included?
41   Patrick   2023 Jun 11, 10:30pm  

WookieMan says

Fact is the Dems need to find an actual candidate.


I had high hopes that Kennedy could be that candidate, but then he comes out and supports the ridiculously corrupt US-instigated war in Ukraine, proving he's just another puppet after all.
42   richwicks   2023 Jun 12, 12:50am  

Patrick says


WookieMan says


Fact is the Dems need to find an actual candidate.


I had high hopes that Kennedy could be that candidate, but then he comes out and supports the ridiculously corrupt US-instigated war in Ukraine, proving he's just another puppet after all.



Remember what politics is - in order to be in it, you have to be willing to lie. He MIGHT be lying, he might be ignorant, but even worse, he might be lying about Ukraine yet STILL support the war.

I can't see how our establishment in either party can't see Ukraine is just being fucked by this war. It's going to destroy the country one way or another. The death toll is horrific and I've heard as low as 150,000 Ukrainians dead up to 300,000 dead. The LOWEST estimate is just mind boggling for a country of 25 million people. They lowest estimate would be 0.6% of the population, double that to 1.2% because only men are fighting, and double it again because it's civil war and you get about 2.4%. Now if you double it again if it's at the highest estimate, that's about 5% of the male population of Western Ukraine. It's horrifying. That's 1 out of 20 men.

Kennedy is the best out of the bunch on the DNC side. For RNC, I would say Trump then DeSantis and I don't trust DeSantis.

Any candidate blessed by the establishment will be yet another disaster.
43   HeadSet   2023 Jun 12, 9:39am  

PeopleUnited says

The witch hunt is to discredit Trump enough with the swing voters that they can push through some milquetoast globalist schill in either the primary or general election.

Correct. Many people who would vote for Trump will not because Trump is now "divisive" of "controversial."

PeopleUnited says

There will still be enough ballot harvesting in swing districts to change the outcome of the election. Democrats counting votes, or worse yet, “computers” counting votes, guarantees fraud.

Correct. They know they will get away with fraud, so the strategy will be to manufacture ballots in critical districts.
44   socal2   2023 Jun 12, 12:00pm  

PeopleUnited says

The Dems don’t need a candidate, As long as they have a RINO/Trojan horse globalist schill like DeSantis or Chris Christie they win even if they lose.


You know - at some point you guys will have to show some real evidence and ACTIONS supporting the lame and retarded claim that DeSantis is some sort of "Globalist Schill".

If I stack up the actual governing accomplishments of DeSantis against Trump's governing accomplishments of Trump going soft on crime, doing nothing about education, doing nothing about spending, being soft on the LGBTQ+ mafia, allowing Fauci to shut the country down and generally getting circles run around him by the Deep State - it is a no brainer IMO.

If Trump was smart - he would be stepping back and putting his support around DeSantis hoping he will get a pardon.

IF the purported video is true of Trump opening his big mouth and bragging and showing off Iran battle plans to people lacking security clearance and acknowledging that he didn't declassify the docs while President - I think Trump's goose is cooked - and rightfully so.
45   PeopleUnited   2023 Jun 12, 8:15pm  

Trump was the first President I can recall who didn’t start any wars.

DeSantis certainly will, if given a chance, or at least he will continue Ukraine. Trump might actually be able to end it.
46   HeadSet   2023 Jun 12, 9:38pm  

PeopleUnited says

Trump might actually be able to end it.

It would end as soon as Trump won the election.
47   Patrick   2023 Jun 12, 10:50pm  

https://protrumpnews.com/donald-trump-widens-lead-over-primary-field-post-indictment/


Donald Trump Widens Lead Over Primary Field Post Indictment

The indictment of Donald Trump is making him even stronger.

According to a post-indictment CBS Poll, Donald Trump continues to dominate the GOP primary.

He has his biggest lead yet.

Twitter:

Trump — 61% (+38)
DeSantis — 23%
T. Scott — 4%
Pence — 4%
Haley — 3%
Ramaswamy — 1%
Hutchinson — 1%
Burgum — 1%
Elder — 1%
Christie — 1%

Breitbart reported:

A poll indicates that former President Donald Trump has widened his lead in the GOP primary following the Department of Justice’s indictment of him for allegedly mishandling classified documents at his Florida home.

Surveying 1,798 potential voters between June 9-10 with a margin of error ±3.3 points, the CBS News poll showed the former president had 61 percent support in the Republican primary, leading his opponent, Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis by a full 38 points – 61 percent to 23 percent. Republican Sen. Tim Scott (SC) stands in third place with just 4 percent of support, just one point ahead of former U.N. Ambassador Nikki Haley.

The poll had more great news for Donald Trump.
48   AD   2023 Jun 13, 12:32am  

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If I am a political target of the Democrat DOJ and FBI like a Soviet-era dissident, I rather be tried in a federal court in Miami then in a Democrat of Woke shithole like Tallahassee, New York City, Atlanta, or Alexandria, Virginia.

It will be less of a chance of a Soviet Show Trial.

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49   richwicks   2023 Jun 13, 12:47am  

HeadSet says

PeopleUnited says


Trump might actually be able to end it.

It would end as soon as Trump won the election.


I envy your faith.

I honestly do. This isn't to insult your or diminish you, but my hope doesn't come from god, or any faith, it's experience.

I don't think Trump will be allowed to run, and even if he's allowed to run and even he's made president, he won't be allowed to end the war.

I have NO FAITH in this government at all. None. And I don't believe there's a super entity looking over us. I wish I could believe it. I don't even think 1/2 the people on this planet are even human at this point, seriously. They are more robot than human. I hear the television babble come out of them all the time.
50   clambo   2023 Jun 13, 6:55am  

The liberals, democrats, losers, fags, trannies and their ilk all remind me of the girls I have dated when they get drunk; they all act out their rage and never consider that the consequences are negative for them, leaving me unscathed.

Any thinking liberal (a contradiction) would see that they are turning Trump into a martyr with all of the bullshit about nothing.

What's next?; they kick down your door and say "You didn't save the last 7 years of your 1040! Book him Danno!"

I hope that Trump stomps their sorry loser asses into the dirt, and the guilty go to prison to bust rocks under the hot sun.
51   Tenpoundbass   2023 Jun 13, 7:01am  

richwicks says

I don't think Trump will be allowed to run, and even if he's allowed to run and even he's made president, he won't be allowed to end the war.


The Commiecrats are running the Leftist playbook that has been played in every country that has had a Nationalist leader elected as their leader.
The Left in those countries did everything they could to undermine them, and when they failed, they trumped up bullshit charges. Many were even arrested.
In every single instance, not only did that Conservative populist beat those cases, but went on to win the next election, or had the Global Homo apparatus steal the election they would have won in a landslide.
Lefty idiots will keep trying the same thing over and over, even when they saw it fail when other's tried it.

It happened in Hungary, Italy, Israel and Brazil. It will be no different here.
Lula will end up in jail eventually and Bolanario will be the President of Brazil again.
52   HeadSet   2023 Jun 13, 7:55am  

ad says

It will be less of a chance of a Soviet Show Trial.

I dunno. Miami is quite woke as well, and I am sure they shopped for the correct judge. "Even a red state court convicted him!"
53   Onvacation   2023 Jun 13, 8:46am  

socal2 says

real evidence and ACTIONS supporting the lame and retarded claim that DeSantis is some sort of "Globalist Schill

He is liked by supporters of the Ukraine war.
54   Onvacation   2023 Jun 13, 8:48am  

ad says

less of a chance of a Soviet Show Trial.

It IS a show trial!
55   socal2   2023 Jun 13, 9:03am  

Democrats, Media and the Deep-state are playing us like a drum. Conservatives and Libertarians are supposed to be about logic and recognize the world for the flaws we have, but we are letting our emotions get the best of us and we are sleepwalking into another bloodbath if we nominate Trump - IMO.

IF the reporting on the video is true of Trump showing classified battle plans to people and bragging that they were still classified - this is incredibly illegal
and reckless incompetence by Trump to give the Democrats and the Deep-state this much ammunition.

Doesn't matter how much we say "But Hillary" or complain about a biased judicial system - a jury is only going to see the video tape of Trump bragging about committing a crime. These aren't insignificant mementos. Battle plans aren't the personal papers or documents of Trump.

Despite some notable accomplishments on judges, immigration and foreign policy, Trump was awful on domestic policy, having no experience, staff or skill to dismantle our corrupt Government bureaucracies. Trump bailed on his allies like Flynn in a New York minute, gave Bureaucrats like Fauci and Wray free reign and is now bad mouthing all of his former staff that were halfway competent. Who the fuck is going to work with Trump 2.0 that has any skill?

Before Trump turned all Liberal this past month, DeSantis shared 98% of Trump's positions and has the experience, brains and DISCIPLINE to dismantle the FBI and DOJ. DeSantis is also polling better against any Democrat than Trump currently is in the General.

But we are to believe that DeSantis is a secret Globalist Homo (because reasons??) and that Only Trump can get done in 4 years what he failed to do in 2016-2020........all the while Trump is even more handicapped by indictments, age, not competent staff and term limits?

Are we really this fucking retarded?
56   Onvacation   2023 Jun 13, 9:08am  

socal2 says

Are we really this fucking retarded?

Depends, who did you vote for?
57   socal2   2023 Jun 13, 9:27am  

Onvacation says

Depends, who did you vote for?


I voted for Trump in 2020 and will vote for him again above any Democrat in 24. I think Trump is getting screwed, but he is also bringing alot of this onto himself.

What I won't accept is that Trump was perfect and he is the ONLY candidate that can win in 24 and get things done.

Here is Trump just a few years ago defending his pick of Wray at the FBI because Democrats liked him and Chris Christie vouched for him. There are so many painful examples like this where Trump made very bad decisions on personnel and policy because he wanted to be liked by his former Democrat friends and assholes in the Media and Hollywood.

https://twitter.com/NvrBackDown24/status/1668419225185026048
58   Onvacation   2023 Jun 13, 10:05am  

socal2 says

What I won't accept is that Trump was perfect and he is the ONLY candidate that can win in 24 and get things done.

Who's claiming Trump is perfect? He's better than Biden.

DeSantis reminds me of Romney; a spoiler of elections secretly working for the communists trying to take over America.
59   Onvacation   2023 Jun 13, 10:08am  

socal2 says

There are so many painful examples like this where Trump made very bad decisions on personnel and policy

Agreed. It makes you wonder if he is just a hired actor paid for by the very deep state he claims to battle.
60   Eric Holder   2023 Jun 13, 11:59am  

socal2 says

But we are to believe that DeSantis is a secret Globalist Homo (because reasons??)


The need for reasons flew out of window loooooong time ago. Now just a proclamation is enough.
61   socal2   2023 Jun 13, 12:24pm  

Onvacation says

DeSantis reminds me of Romney; a spoiler of elections secretly working for the communists trying to take over America.


FFS - this is why we can't have nice things and why we are governed by Liberal retards.

It is becoming next to impossible to make a Conservative case for Trump's ability to win, let alone his ability to govern - so we are back to dopey attacks on DeSantis. At least you are not making Leftist attacks against DeSantis record like Trump and his surrogates have made in recent weeks.

We are to believe DeSantis' entire life's accomplishments and record over the past 20 years (which are substantial if you claim to be against Leftism) has all been a sUpeR sEcret head-fake to usher in Communism for this moment in 2024?

BTW - here you our boy Paul Ryan this week making Trump's argument that it is a mistake to battle the left on the culture wars.
https://twitter.com/CurtisHouck/status/1668604854539804674

And here is Trump praising Paul Ryan to remind all of us on how weak Trump is about judging character.
https://twitter.com/realstickyclick/status/1668672235983257620
63   richwicks   2023 Jun 17, 1:45am  

Tenpoundbass says

Lula will end up in jail eventually and Bolanario will be the President of Brazil again.


I don't know. Glenn Greenwald is in Brazil, and he helped expose that Lula wasn't guilty. He's also the same person that exposed the Snowden files.

It's not left or right, it's right versus wrong, truth versus fiction.

The "left" isn't necessarily bad, they just have a much more complex system that can be corrupted.

The "left" thinks they can control government although they have never been proven to be able to do that, the "right" thinks the government is uncontrollable and therefore want to limit it. That's the real difference.
64   richwicks   2023 Jun 17, 2:18am  

socal2 says


What I won't accept is that Trump was perfect and he is the ONLY candidate that can win in 24 and get things done.


Haha, his imperfection is his gift.

Biden is perfect, Obama was perfect, George W. Bush was perfect, in their complete dishonesty and corruption. Hillary Clinton would have been, as would Mitt Romney, John McCain, John Kerry, and Al Gore.

Stop looking for perfection, and look for absolute corruption. Joe Biden is OPENLY selling access to his office. He's just a moron because it's so obvious, I'm certain Obama did the same and George W. Bush did as well. Clinton did.

How did Obama make 12 million dollars to buy a beach house on Martha's Vineyard? Well, he accepted a bribe to change the national curriculum for common core math. This made Random House 1/2 billion dollars with new books, and he got 60 million out of the deal for a memoir you've never seen or read - so what if our entire nation's kid's don't learn fundamental math?

He seriously got a 60 million dollar book deal for his memoirs. What's the book? Nobody knows, because nobody cares. You've never read it, and you've never heard of it. It was a bribe.

Don't believe it?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4268966/Barack-Michelle-Obama-memoirs-fetch-60-million.html

Until you recognize the corruption, it will continue.
65   GNL   2023 Jun 17, 2:42am  

Books, art, jobs, speaking fees etc are bribes.

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