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Flouride is actually poisonous, decreases intelligence.


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2023 Aug 8, 1:29pm   2,050 views  67 comments

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https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/ntp-report-fluoride-lower-iq-children/


“Our meta-analysis confirms results of previous meta-analyses and extends them by including newer, more precise studies with individual-level exposure measures.

“The data support a consistent inverse association between fluoride exposure and children’s IQ …

“The results were robust to stratifications by risk of bias, gender, age group, outcome assessment, study location, exposure timing, and exposure type (including both drinking water and urinary fluoride).”


People on this site were mentioning the harmful effects of fluoride for years:

https://patrick.net/post/1208286/2012-01-31-population-dumbing-down-through
https://patrick.net/post/1221984/2013-02-18-leading-geneticist-human-intelligence
https://patrick.net/post/1227760/2013-08-02-crest-removes-poison-triclosan-from
https://patrick.net/post/1228112/2013-08-12-israel-court-rules-to-stop-water-fluoridation
https://patrick.net/post/1329135/2019-12-15-what-happens-when-they-take-the

General Jack T. Ripper was right after all.



And what would be even funnier, I guess, is if it turned out to have actually been a communist plot.

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7   Ceffer   2023 Aug 8, 3:27pm  

Holy Shit! They were always right! The Devil is in the details.

8   HeadSet   2023 Aug 8, 4:48pm  

"THE SPEED OF SOUND IS 666 KNOTS PER SECOND"

That would just be "knots." No such thing as "knots per second." A knot is one nautical mile per hour.
10   Ceffer   2023 Dec 28, 11:15pm  

Too much fluoride in too much stuff to achieve zero fluoride. They really are out to get us.

However, since I have been drinking only double filtered water (about four months) and wiping everything washed with tap water with a towel, I do think my memory has improved a bit. You can reduce the titer of fluoride if not the whole shebang.
11   clambo   2023 Dec 29, 9:04am  

"Candy is dandy, but sex won't rot your teeth."

In case you hadn't heard.
13   casandra   2024 Jan 8, 8:10pm  

duh. We've known this since its inception. We use it to destroy your and your children's penal gland denying your offspring higher level thinking and computing; thus rendering them liberal. Nothing more to learn here folks.
14   ForcedTQ   2024 Jan 8, 9:22pm  

The fucking fuck doctors at the Pediatric doctor facility in our neighboring city actually wanted to prescribe and have us administer flouride supplemental pills to our 1 year old!!! I asked why in the hell would we do that, flouride is toxic!? They pushed it again at the next well checkup and we said No way is that substance going into OUR child!

Then about 3 months later we were required to get a few vaccinations done that we did not agree with, at which point we were told that without them our child would not be a patient anymore! I think I actually said fuck off to the doctor when she left after we declined. Ever since then we found a new pediatrician and tell everyone we meet that takes their child there to leave for greener pastures. About 30% of them listen. This is in CA, so mostly fucked…
15   Patrick   2024 Jan 20, 9:26am  

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/sinking-ships-saturday-january-20/comment/47724879


Jessica Funk

PLEASE BRING AWARENESS TO THIS MAJOR LAWSUIT! I am grateful for your diligent work to keep us informed on many topics. It is especially interesting to be kept up to date on the many lawsuits, in courts currently, that have a huge impact on our freedoms.

There is one major suit you are missing and likely because the media, the government and the American Dental Association have worked extremely hard to squash any discussion on the topic. At the end of this month, a court in San Francisco will be covering a 9 day trial on the harms of water fluoridation. This is a controversial topic that spans decades and much like the anti-vaxxers have been attacked as tin foil hat wearing individuals, people on the side of concern about fluoride consumption have been equally maligned and the research suppressed.

As a dentist, I have been indoctrinated to believe that fluoride is the 'savior' of our profession. Any thoughts to the contrary were considered conspiracy. When COVID awoke me to the lies of the medical establishment, I became concerned that parallel lies existed in my profession. Researching the history of water fluoridation is eerily similar to the efforts to promote vaccination. Fluoride is to dentistry what vaccines are to medicine.

One might think that all dentists should be opposed to fluoride...it would certainly generate more business for the industry. But, fluoride treatments and fluoride products are income generating elements of dental practices. Much like vaccines are to pediatric medical offices. And much like vaccines, there is benefit to reducing tooth decay from fluoride but the systemic impact of consumption over a lifetime has consequences for the bones, the kidneys, the thyroid and pineal gland, likely intestinal (leaky gut) and the most harmful, the neurotoxic effects to the brain.

Most of the world does not fluoridate and has seen reductions in tooth decay that parallel what's been seen in this country since the introduction of water fluoridation. The CDC quietly changed its position in the late 90s to admit that topical application of fluoride is the primary method of benefit. I would argue that the sublingual absorption of toothpaste fluoride but that's a topic for another day.

The neurotoxic effects are what is on trial. Unlike vaccines, most people are unable to avoid water fluoridation. Nearly 80% of Americans drink fluoridated water and very few understand that the chemical used to fluoridate our water is the toxic waste of the phosphorus rock and aluminum industries. One can get an exemption from vaccination but the cost to filter fluoride from our water makes this exposure a forced medical treatment.

Please, please...bring awareness to this topic. As I talk to people in my awake medical circles, VERY few are aware of this trial and the impact it can have on our health....and our freedom to choose.
17   Patrick   2024 Jan 31, 10:55am  

https://jessicabfunk.substack.com/p/todays-the-day


Today’s the day that water fluoridation, a public health measure spanning more than 70 years, is on trial in San Francisco, California. Judge Edward Chen will be presiding over the presentation of scientific evidence related to the neurotoxicity of fluoride exposure on the developing brain. There is an interesting but not a surprising history behind the lawsuit and the suppression of the science.

November 2016, several non profits (Fluoride Action Network, Food and Water Watch, Organic Consumers Association, Moms Against Fluoride and others) petitioned the EPA to ban fluoridation due to the chemical’s neurotoxicity. They used the law, The Toxic Substances Control Act to file this petition against the government. The EPA filed a motion to dismiss the case.

December 2017 Court denies the EPA’s motion to dismiss

February 2018 Court denies the EPA’s request to limit review to the administrative record that would allow important information from new scientific studies published since the case was originally filed.

June 2020 Judge Chen heard arguments from both sides and admitted that the plaintiffs presented ‘serious evidence’ that raises ‘serious questions’ about the safety of continuing water fluoridation. Judge Chen delayed the trial until completion of the NTP report and the benchmark dose analysis completed by the NIH. ...

Complete silence can be heard from the American Dental Association and in my opinion, this is an abhorrent omission on their part in educating dentists and the public. Late last year, the ADA published an article touting the town of Brigham, UT for not taking fluoride out of their water when it came up on the ballot during November voting.




18   Onvacation   2024 Jan 31, 5:43pm  

DR. HOWARD HU DISCUSSES HIS TESTIMONY AT THE FLUORIDE LAWSUIT


"There is a negative impact of fluoride exposure in the neurodevelopment of children..."
20   RayAmerica   2024 Feb 26, 3:50pm  

We have not used Fluoride toothpaste for years. Several years back, after a check up and cleaning, my Dentist asked me if I wanted the Fluoride 'treatment.' Of course I refused, and he looked at me kind of funny. He then asked me why and I simply answered that I didn't want to put poison into my system. His response was surprising. He said that he won't allow Fluoride toothpaste in his own household. So here you have a Dentist that is offering a high dose Fluoride treatment to his patients, and yet he admits that he won't allow his wife and kids to use Fluoride toothpaste!
21   HeadSet   2024 Feb 26, 5:42pm  

RayAmerica says

So here you have a Dentist that is offering a high dose Fluoride treatment to his patients, and yet he admits that he won't allow his wife and kids to use Fluoride toothpaste!

Like a doctor who pushed the covid jab but did not take it himself. $$$$
22   mell   2024 Feb 26, 7:42pm  

I find water fluoridation problematic, but not fluoride toothpaste. Or a fluoride varnish as long as you rinse it out right away. There are always pros and cons to everything, tooth decay and bad teeth/gums in general are associated with higher mortality and the enamel protective activity of flouride has been established long ago. If you're not a manic teeth brusher or go to the dentist every month for a fluoride shot you will likely be fine. However drinking water should not be fluoridated! Most kids don't brush enough or hardly at all (did you?), so I have a hard time believing this being an issue (aside from fluoridated water).
23   fdhfoiehfeoi   2024 Feb 26, 7:49pm  

RayAmerica says

Of course I refused, and he looked at me kind of funny.


Probably because fluoride is safe as long as you don't ingest it.
24   mell   2024 Feb 26, 8:17pm  

NuttBoxer says


RayAmerica says


Of course I refused, and he looked at me kind of funny.


Probably because fluoride is safe as long as you don't ingest it.


Yep. It does make sense not putting it into babies toothpastes since they often ingest it, but once you're old enough to understand how to brush and spit out fluoride in toothpastes should not be an issue anymore.
25   RayAmerica   2024 Feb 26, 8:38pm  

mell says

Yep. It does make sense not putting it into babies toothpastes since they often ingest it, but once you're old enough to understand how to brush and spit out fluoride in toothpastes should not be an issue anymore.

With all due respect, Fluoride is poison. Knowing that, why on earth would anyone want to brush their teeth with that? Be careful all you want, but your system is absorbing a certain amount of that, day in and day out.
26   richwicks   2024 Feb 26, 9:22pm  

mell says


I find water fluoridation problematic, but not fluoride toothpaste. Or a fluoride varnish as long as you rinse it out right away. There are always pros and cons to everything, tooth decay and bad teeth/gums in general are associated with higher mortality and the enamel protective activity of flouride has been established long ago.


There's no evidence that flouride in toothpaste improves dental health.
27   mell   2024 Feb 26, 10:00pm  

richwicks says


mell says


I find water fluoridation problematic, but not fluoride toothpaste. Or a fluoride varnish as long as you rinse it out right away. There are always pros and cons to everything, tooth decay and bad teeth/gums in general are associated with higher mortality and the enamel protective activity of flouride has been established long ago.


There's no evidence that flouride in toothpaste improves dental health.


That's not true. There are so many peer reviewed that you surely must be jesting. Here's one: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6398117

This is especially true for fluoride directly delivered to the enamel, i.e topical. Ingesting it however (e.g. water) has been found less beneficial if at all and with potentially neurotoxic side effects. Topical delivery definitely reduces tooth decay and has been found unproblematic if not ingested.
28   richwicks   2024 Feb 26, 10:35pm  

mell says

There are so many peer reviewed that you surely must be jesting. Here's one: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6398117


I'm not going to argue this. One thing I've learned over the last 3 years is that data isn't collected objectively for public health and this must have been going on for a long time. I don't care to argue this too much, and I know flouride is a toxin. I don't care if people use flouride, but I think it's about as beneficial as the last vaccination.
29   WookieMan   2024 Feb 27, 2:03am  

I haven't read a toothpaste label in decades, but if I recall correctly it does say not to swallow it. Same with mouthwash. Obviously gums bleed, so it's a porous part of the body. So it does get into the blood stream even if you don't ingest it down your throat.

I think dental hygiene is overhyped bigly or I have extremely tough teeth. I think more about food and drink choices honestly. I don't eat candy, sugar beverages like coke, or high sugar foods. Never get a dessert even if included in the meal. They say sweet tooth for a reason. I just brush in the morning and haven't had a cavity in my life. 🤷‍♂️
30   fdhfoiehfeoi   2024 Feb 27, 8:43am  

RayAmerica says

Be careful all you want, but your system is absorbing a certain amount of that, day in and day out.


This is accurate. Even touching something to your skin creates a certain amount of absorption. So swishing it around in your mouth for a minute, yeah...

mell says

Yep. It does make sense not putting it into babies toothpastes since they often ingest it, but once you're old enough to understand how to brush and spit out fluoride in toothpastes should not be an issue anymore.


I can tell you for a fact with the kids strawberry toothpaste, my four year old will swallow it. She's been on the adult peppermint lately, which she doesn't like, so I don't think she swallows that, but you have to be careful probably at least until school starts, longer if you give them yummy tasting toothpaste.

WookieMan says

I think dental hygiene is overhyped bigly or I have extremely tough teeth. I think more about food and drink choices honestly.


Very good point. If you eat crap all day long, brushing won't make up for that. Calcium is tremendously better over fluoride for dental health, it's not even close. But besides the now retired dentist who still sells calcium products, I have never been able to find a dentist who will treat with it. Likely because if they're found out, their career is over.

Yes, me and my wife personally use these products:
https://www.calciumtherapy.com/
31   WookieMan   2024 Feb 27, 9:06am  

NuttBoxer says

Very good point. If you eat crap all day long, brushing won't make up for that. Calcium is tremendously better over fluoride for dental health, it's not even close. But besides the now retired dentist who still sells calcium products, I have never been able to find a dentist who will treat with it. Likely because if they're found out, their career is over.

Yes, me and my wife personally use these products:
https://www.calciumtherapy.com/

It's sales in the end. They gotta pay their bills. Not justifying it. A lot of products work, but a lot are snake oil crap. It's why I just don't take anything. Vitamin D and a multi-supplement daily is it. Nothing else.

Diet is the biggie. I used to have massive heart burn. Enough so it made me lose my voice for a while. Fasting works wonders in many ways. I haven't eaten in 24 hours. Had some beers last night, so not a true fast. We need food, but not as much as most people eat currently. Something clicked about 5 years ago. Who came up with 3 meals a day? The breakfast and lunch industry? lol. I'm a dinner only guy and the supplements I mentioned. Tough at times, but as someone that doesn't like to work out, it keeps me thin.
32   fdhfoiehfeoi   2024 Feb 27, 10:16am  

It's how cartels work. See the AMA. The Scamdemic is the logical end result. Snake oil and profits are all you see in "modern" medicine.

I eat when I'm hungry. During the week I'm up earlier, so two meals. Weekend, sometimes just one. I never intentionally fast, just get busy sometimes and don't care to stop.

Had the same heartburn, started right after college and lasted a few years before we started our diet change. Most diets are heavily acidic, and inflammatory. Perfect conditions for heartburn.
33   WookieMan   2024 Feb 27, 12:26pm  

NuttBoxer says

I eat when I'm hungry. During the week I'm up earlier, so two meals. Weekend, sometimes just one. I never intentionally fast, just get busy sometimes and don't care to stop.

Agree. I just eat one big ass meal. Right now I'm kind of hungry. I'll wait till the kids get home and then start thinking about dinner. I actually don't know if I ate yesterday. I had beers. Looking to drop 5-8 lbs by Saturday for an event. I think I'll make it. I like being thin(ish). Medical issues aside I feel great and nothing showed up major at all. I still don't get what happened with the seizure. Happy to be alive. Wasn't wearing a seatbelt....
34   casandra   2024 Feb 27, 4:54pm  

I've also noticed that people with good teeth are not as susceptible to the retardation and liberalism associated with this treatment. The destruction of the penal gland is more noticeable to me with those who have very poor teeth. But thats just my own observations that I've figured out decades ago.
35   RayAmerica   2024 Feb 28, 7:53am  

In 1997, the FDA ordered toothpaste manufacturers to add a poison warning on all fluoride toothpastes sold in the U.S. The warning reads:

“Keep out of reach of children under 6 years of age. If you accidentally swallow more than used for brushing, seek professional help or contact a poison control center immediately.”
36   HeadSet   2024 Feb 28, 9:07am  

WookieMan says

I just eat one big ass

Amusing word choice.
37   Patrick   2024 Mar 3, 5:41pm  

https://vigilantnews.com/post/joe-rogan-and-katt-williams-talk-about-how-fluoride-in-drinking-water-lowers-iq/


Joe Rogan: “There’s a Direct Correlation” Between Fluoride in the Water and Low IQs ...

Before the Union County commissioners voted, the Leader of the Union County Chapter of Moms for Liberty, Abigal Prado, spoke before the commissioners and shared, “Millions of pregnant women are currently being exposed to levels of fluoride that have the potential to lower their children’s IQ by at least four to six points.”

Prado referenced a 2019 study published in JAMA Pediatrics that revealed: “Fluoride exposure during pregnancy may be associated with adverse effects on child intellectual development, indicating the possible need to reduce fluoride intake during pregnancy.”


Possible need?
38   WookieMan   2024 Mar 4, 1:36am  

HeadSet says

WookieMan says


I just eat one big ass

Amusing word choice.

I'm an idiot and I love it. I say and do some of the dumbest/funniest shit ever. Golf with me and if you don't laugh you're not human.

People get me in person. Online it's tougher. In the last month I legit could have banged 10 women. I'm faithful though so that didn't happen. My wife and I are very similar. Not sure if we influenced each other. But when we're on comedy wise you'll be laughing your as off when we both get in synch.

I'm an ass hole, but making people laugh for some reason makes me a bigger ass hole. Basically I won if that makes sense. I control you to an extent. A bit narcissistic. Whatever. I need to go back to bed. Fuck insomnia....
39   Robert Sproul   2024 Mar 4, 7:16am  

NuttBoxer says

Most diets are heavily acidic, and inflammatory. Perfect conditions for heartburn.

One thing that surprised me is that all canned foods are very acidic. The contents are acidified as a preservative and it does not need to be disclosed on the ingredient list.
40   HeadSet   2024 Mar 4, 7:36am  

Robert Sproul says

One thing that surprised me is that all canned foods are very acidic. The contents are acidified as a preservative and it does not need to be disclosed on the ingredient list.

Odd, it seems that all that salt would be sufficient. Even weal acids can slowly dissolve metal, so I guess you get that leached into the canned food as well.
41   richwicks   2024 Mar 4, 7:51am  

HeadSet says


Robert Sproul says


One thing that surprised me is that all canned foods are very acidic. The contents are acidified as a preservative and it does not need to be disclosed on the ingredient list.

Odd, it seems that all that salt would be sufficient. Even weal acids can slowly dissolve metal, so I guess you get that leached into the canned food as well.



You can check. Take a small amount of whatever is in the can and add baking soda to it. If it bubbles, it's acidic.

I don't believe this nonsense about acidic or alkaline diets. Your stomach is filled with acid anyhow. Any alkaline material you ingest will be neutralized .

The oh in your bloodstream is constant. If it changes, your going to die.
42   stereotomy   2024 Mar 4, 9:03am  

richwicks says

The ph in your bloodstream is constant. If it changes, your going to die.

Not if you're hit with the Andromeda Strain - then it could be a short-to -intermediate term lifesaver, as opposed to instant (curiously vax-like) clotting of the blood.
43   fdhfoiehfeoi   2024 Mar 4, 10:34am  

WookieMan says

I still don't get what happened with the seizure.


Hopefully not an indicator of any nutritional deficiency. Only way to tell would be get some lab work done with a naturopath. Regular MD's aren't qualified to assess that.
44   fdhfoiehfeoi   2024 Mar 4, 10:37am  

richwicks says

I don't believe this nonsense about acidic or alkaline diets. Your stomach is filled with acid anyhow. Any alkaline material you ingest will be neutralized .


I know for sure the alkaline water is questionable as to benefit. Our naturopath said it wouldn't affect PH. We just got it because it was the only bottled water where they add minerals back in.

But greasy, processed, or acidic foods do give me heartburn once in a while. Maybe those stomach acids don't appreciate the help?
45   Patrick   2024 May 22, 8:31pm  

https://nypost.com/2024/05/20/lifestyle/fluoride-in-pregnancy-may-harm-childs-brain-development-study/


A new study suggests a link between greater fluoride intake in pregnancy and toddlers with behavioral problems.

Children in the womb exposed to higher levels of fluoride ... later were more likely to experience temper tantrums, headaches, stomachaches, anxiety and symptoms linked to autism, according to research published Monday in JAMA Network Open. ...

“This is the first US-based study to examine this association,” lead study author Ashley Malin, an assistant professor of epidemiology at the University of Florida’s College of Public Health and Health Professions and College of Medicine, said in a statement.

“Our findings are noteworthy, given that the women in this study were exposed to pretty low levels of fluoride — levels that are typical of those living in fluoridated regions within North America,” she added.

Communities have been adding fluoride to their drinking water for decades to help prevent tooth decay.

Fluoride has been shown to strengthen enamel, inhibit the growth of bacteria and replenish lost minerals.

According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, as of 2020, more than 209 million people, or 72.7% of the US population, receive fluoridated water through public water systems.
46   WookieMan   2024 May 23, 5:23am  

NuttBoxer says

WookieMan says

I still don't get what happened with the seizure.

Hopefully not an indicator of any nutritional deficiency. Only way to tell would be get some lab work done with a naturopath. Regular MD's aren't qualified to assess that.

Stress. I've had all the labs and scans. I'm a healthy human dude and feel good. I could work out more I suppose, but I'm not fat. I don't drink soda, don't eat fast food, and generally cook what I'd consider healthy. We grow most our veggies we use about 30-40% of the year. Weather sucks here and haven't gotten into the preserving game yet.

One thing I've noticed as you mentioned heartburn in another comment in this thread. I cut out all caffeine about 8 years ago. Poof, heartburn done. I can eat what I want and never get it. Stuff like spicy wings used to bother me. Still bothers my ass hole on the way out, but no more heartburn if I go out to eat and not eating home cooking.

The kids always want fast food. I just tell them we're poor and you'll have to eat at home... lol. I ate too much of that shit in my 20's when my body and metabolism could handle it. Everything is so damn salty and then I'll watch people put more table salt on their food. You need sodium, but I swear some people are seeking out a heart attack.

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