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Patrick
2023 Sep 26, 7:42pm
Patrick
2023 Sep 26, 7:42pm
Trollhole says
If he's not deliberately insulting other users, why not just refuse to engage?
he's antagonizing the hell out of multiple ppl by engaging in disingenuous dialog whenever any of us call him out for his inconsistencies
If he's not deliberately insulting other users, why not just refuse to engage?
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Onvacation
2023 Sep 26, 7:47pm
Onvacation
2023 Sep 26, 7:47pm
RWSGFY says
Why do you want thermonuclear war?
it's time to abandon Obamaesque limpdicking and Brandonesque foot -dragging and deliver the necessary long-range weaponry in quantity.
Why do you want thermonuclear war?
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DOGEWontAmountToShit
2023 Sep 26, 8:26pm
DOGEWontAmountToShit
2023 Sep 26, 8:26pm
Schokolade says
Stop the fucking trolling bullshit. It is sooo obvious now.
Once your trolling gets outed, it is just a waste of time on your part to continue.
Having a different opinion is not trolling. There are a few people here who are not Russian boosters. And what you quoted there is not an inconsistency. I bet if you would live close to Russia (say in Lithuania, Finnland or Poland) you would think very differently about this Russian threat. Why are you getting so personal, angry and emotional about the subject?
Stop the fucking trolling bullshit. It is sooo obvious now.
Once your trolling gets outed, it is just a waste of time on your part to continue.
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richwicks
2023 Sep 26, 8:45pm
richwicks
2023 Sep 26, 8:45pm
Schokolade says
Yes, I am.
Victoria Nuland with Geoffrey Pyatt picked out the government of Ukraine, and that's the government Ukraine ending up getting, WHAT A COINCIDENCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!#@!$#@$%#@!$^%@!#$ This phone call was leaked on February 4th, 2014 and the Yanukovych government collapsed on February 22, 2014.
How could Victorial Nuland know that the government would have to be replaced IF she was acting as a diplomat, and not a fucking piece of shit spy? More importantly, what was Victoria Nuland doing picking out the next government to replace the current one? It's supposed to be a democratic republic, isn't it? Shouldn't the people of Ukraine be picking?
This, is by far, the most obvious coup in history, that was exposed, before the coup.
What proof do YOU need? Some document that comes out from an FOIA request 30 years from now? I have seen people deny this blatant evidence. They may as well be telling me that the red hot stove isn't warm and safe to handle. I don't believe anybody can be this stupid, but I do believe, and in fact know, there are people that will be this dishonest - to simply deny obvious reality. I'm tired of this shit.
If you deny the coup, that's just silly. It's childish. Do you think just because assholes in my government claim that this leaked phone call (that's been confirmed to be real) had no bearing on Ukraine's government, that I'll believe it? 2+2=4. It's not 3, it's not 5, I don't give a shit what the state tells me it is.
Now if you're a pathetic, cow, you can believe whatever they tell you. I'm serious when I say I don't any longer regard 90% of humanity as human. I'm not kidding. I won't kill them, I won't harm them. I was a vegetarian for 25 years, I have empathy. I used to do dog rescue, I would take incredibly broken messed up dogs, and get them to see what a wondrous nice world existed. But I'd still whack them if they showed violence, if they eliminated in my home. I didn't do this to be mean, I did this to correct them ONCE. Only once was generally necessary.
YOU can't be trained. Dogs I couldn't train NOT to be violent, I put down - I failed once out of 20 dogs and I still feel badly about it, it was a failure. But, I'll leave you alone. You're not a dog, you can't be corrected, you can't be fixed and I'm not going to rescue you, or show you a better side of existence.
I had a wolf in rescue. That's not a dog. I had a full arctic wolf. That animal couldn't be trained, but wasn't dangerous, but was NOT a dog. You're more like that but I don't know, you might be dangerous. I just got lucky this animal wasn't dangerous, but he could be. That animal could have easily killed me, he just didn't because he didn't want to kill me. Just like I didn't want to kill him. What would be the motive?
Richwicks, you are saying the US planted the Ukrainian government (puppets) and caused this war, right? You base this on this leaked phone call from 2014 w/ Nuland or do you have any other indications?
Yes, I am.
Victoria Nuland with Geoffrey Pyatt picked out the government of Ukraine, and that's the government Ukraine ending up getting, WHAT A COINCIDENCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!#@!$#@$%#@!$^%@!#$ This phone call was leaked on February 4th, 2014 and the Yanukovych government collapsed on February 22, 2014.
How could Victorial Nuland know that the government would have to be replaced IF she was acting as a diplomat, and not a fucking piece of shit spy? More importantly, what was Victoria Nuland doing picking out the next government to replace the current one? It's supposed to be a democratic republic, isn't it? Shouldn't the people of Ukraine be picking?
This, is by far, the most obvious coup in history, that was exposed, before the coup.
What proof do YOU need? Some document that comes out from an FOIA request 30 years from now? I have seen people deny this blatant evidence. They may as well be telling me that the red hot stove isn't warm and safe to handle. I don't believe anybody can be this stupid, but I do believe, and in fact know, there are people that will be this dishonest - to simply deny obvious reality. I'm tired of this shit.
If you deny the coup, that's just silly. It's childish. Do you think just because assholes in my government claim that this leaked phone call (that's been confirmed to be real) had no bearing on Ukraine's government, that I'll believe it? 2+2=4. It's not 3, it's not 5, I don't give a shit what the state tells me it is.
Now if you're a pathetic, cow, you can believe whatever they tell you. I'm serious when I say I don't any longer regard 90% of humanity as human. I'm not kidding. I won't kill them, I won't harm them. I was a vegetarian for 25 years, I have empathy. I used to do dog rescue, I would take incredibly broken messed up dogs, and get them to see what a wondrous nice world existed. But I'd still whack them if they showed violence, if they eliminated in my home. I didn't do this to be mean, I did this to correct them ONCE. Only once was generally necessary.
YOU can't be trained. Dogs I couldn't train NOT to be violent, I put down - I failed once out of 20 dogs and I still feel badly about it, it was a failure. But, I'll leave you alone. You're not a dog, you can't be corrected, you can't be fixed and I'm not going to rescue you, or show you a better side of existence.
I had a wolf in rescue. That's not a dog. I had a full arctic wolf. That animal couldn't be trained, but wasn't dangerous, but was NOT a dog. You're more like that but I don't know, you might be dangerous. I just got lucky this animal wasn't dangerous, but he could be. That animal could have easily killed me, he just didn't because he didn't want to kill me. Just like I didn't want to kill him. What would be the motive?
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richwicks
2023 Sep 26, 8:53pm
richwicks
2023 Sep 26, 8:53pm
Schokolade says
He promised to implement the Minsk Accords, and end the civil war, and he didn't. Instead he escalated it, got Russia to finally attack Eastern Ukraine, and has dumped 300,000 or so Ukrainian into the meat grinder. He's destroyed Ukraine.
Schokolade says
HOW am I wrong? Maybe I am. When you think you have found an error in either my logic or knowledge, point it out. I'm human, I make errors, and I will accept it when I do, and correct. I've been doing this all my life.
I'm just disgusted with you. I know how this war will end, because it will end like EVERY American war. YOU SHOULD KNOW, and you don't. What? Can't learn the basics in 20 fucking years? This war will end with a lot of dead, and a destroyed nation, and if anybody gains, it will be US companies shipping LNG to Europe, and Russia. I almost think this war is really a war against Europe.
Russia will be fine after this, the US.... I don't know.
Why is Zelenskyy a Jewish traitor and hates Ukraine??
He promised to implement the Minsk Accords, and end the civil war, and he didn't. Instead he escalated it, got Russia to finally attack Eastern Ukraine, and has dumped 300,000 or so Ukrainian into the meat grinder. He's destroyed Ukraine.
Schokolade says
Btw., all the personal comments and name callings don’t bother me in your case. I think it’s because I believe you just went too far down the rabbit hole.
HOW am I wrong? Maybe I am. When you think you have found an error in either my logic or knowledge, point it out. I'm human, I make errors, and I will accept it when I do, and correct. I've been doing this all my life.
I'm just disgusted with you. I know how this war will end, because it will end like EVERY American war. YOU SHOULD KNOW, and you don't. What? Can't learn the basics in 20 fucking years? This war will end with a lot of dead, and a destroyed nation, and if anybody gains, it will be US companies shipping LNG to Europe, and Russia. I almost think this war is really a war against Europe.
Russia will be fine after this, the US.... I don't know.
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richwicks
2023 Sep 28, 4:00am
richwicks
2023 Sep 28, 4:00am
@StillsearchingforagoodName - you asked me what I based my belief on Ukraine being overthrown by a CIA coup and I told you, that the intercepted phone call between Victoria Nuland and Geoffrey Pyatt was not just evidence for the coup, but absolute proof.
Do you consider this to be erroneous?
You seem to think that Victoria Nuland deciding on the government that Ukraine was going to have (and got), is just some sort of coincidence. Are you really incapable of not believing in something until some taking head asshole says it?
For the first time in history, not only did we get evidence of a coup before it happened, we had a recorded conversation that Victoria Nuland admitted was accurate and correct, and simply because our asshole propagandists won't confirm it, you don't believe it? It's amazing to me how absolutely brainwashed people can be.
I want to be clear about my position. I think the US state department is out of control by maniacs, and I mean literal maniacs. They should all be fired if not imprisoned or executed. They purpose create problems, and they use the propaganda box to offer a solution. We didn't have to go to ANY WAR since 1991. I'm tired of this shit. Ukraine was corrupt in 2013, and it's corrupt now. It's not our problem, and more importantly, the US isn't solving that problem, they are exploiting it and I'm fucking paying for it, and so is everybody.
20 fucking years of war, of state sanctioned murder, ignore the immorality of it, how has ANY of these wars advantaged our nation? We either have incompetents running the state department, or traitors running it. They are destroying this nation. Stop being a puppet to them. You are helping to destroy this nation, by being loyal. Stop being a loyal puppet. I'm tired of it. We should have revolted decades ago.
Do you consider this to be erroneous?
You seem to think that Victoria Nuland deciding on the government that Ukraine was going to have (and got), is just some sort of coincidence. Are you really incapable of not believing in something until some taking head asshole says it?
For the first time in history, not only did we get evidence of a coup before it happened, we had a recorded conversation that Victoria Nuland admitted was accurate and correct, and simply because our asshole propagandists won't confirm it, you don't believe it? It's amazing to me how absolutely brainwashed people can be.
I want to be clear about my position. I think the US state department is out of control by maniacs, and I mean literal maniacs. They should all be fired if not imprisoned or executed. They purpose create problems, and they use the propaganda box to offer a solution. We didn't have to go to ANY WAR since 1991. I'm tired of this shit. Ukraine was corrupt in 2013, and it's corrupt now. It's not our problem, and more importantly, the US isn't solving that problem, they are exploiting it and I'm fucking paying for it, and so is everybody.
20 fucking years of war, of state sanctioned murder, ignore the immorality of it, how has ANY of these wars advantaged our nation? We either have incompetents running the state department, or traitors running it. They are destroying this nation. Stop being a puppet to them. You are helping to destroy this nation, by being loyal. Stop being a loyal puppet. I'm tired of it. We should have revolted decades ago.
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Tenpoundbass
2023 Sep 28, 8:44am
Tenpoundbass
2023 Sep 28, 8:44am
iwog2 says
How is that Trolling, seems like a low bar to me. People call Putin a madman all the time in their support for Ukraine.
If you're already triggered by their first defense for supporting Ukraine, then you have already lost the debate.
I support Putin over the EU and Global Domination NGO cabal, and their G20 enablers.
I can only go by logical optics for my opinion and support. He may be a bigger asshole than I give him credit for. But however the MSM's dishonest selective reporting. And those attacking him, if critical thinking prevails, Those that are attacked the most, are probably on the side of the Truth of what's going on. That being said, I don't or can't get bent out of shape over people calling him a madman, because that's their only defense for the NWO.
Otherwise they can't tell me how Putin is doing anything worse than the rest of Western World's influence and military enforced policy.
Schokolade says
Just because you call it facts doesn’t mean it’s a fact.
Then you write this:
Schokolade says
We can be happy we are not being attacked by a madman like Putin
You're just trolling this site. Go away.
How is that Trolling, seems like a low bar to me. People call Putin a madman all the time in their support for Ukraine.
If you're already triggered by their first defense for supporting Ukraine, then you have already lost the debate.
I support Putin over the EU and Global Domination NGO cabal, and their G20 enablers.
I can only go by logical optics for my opinion and support. He may be a bigger asshole than I give him credit for. But however the MSM's dishonest selective reporting. And those attacking him, if critical thinking prevails, Those that are attacked the most, are probably on the side of the Truth of what's going on. That being said, I don't or can't get bent out of shape over people calling him a madman, because that's their only defense for the NWO.
Otherwise they can't tell me how Putin is doing anything worse than the rest of Western World's influence and military enforced policy.
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Shaman
2023 Sep 28, 9:39am
Shaman
2023 Sep 28, 9:39am
The Russo/Ukrainian war can best be described as a civil war between adjoining and neighboring states with a history of conflict.
Which civil war in history was NOT inflamed to greater body counts and longer duration with more destruction by the addition of foreign money and arms?
There’s a reason we lock up international arms dealers. They prolong such violence and cause thousands of needless deaths by arming the belligerent forces.
This all could have been over in April 2022, but Biden and the elites wanted to “hurt Russia” with their cat’s paw Ukraine.
It’s cost half a million lives, and those weren’t Sudanese Africans nobody cares about. Those are white Christians who are dying in droves for the vanity of the “Rich Men North of Richmond.”
Which civil war in history was NOT inflamed to greater body counts and longer duration with more destruction by the addition of foreign money and arms?
There’s a reason we lock up international arms dealers. They prolong such violence and cause thousands of needless deaths by arming the belligerent forces.
This all could have been over in April 2022, but Biden and the elites wanted to “hurt Russia” with their cat’s paw Ukraine.
It’s cost half a million lives, and those weren’t Sudanese Africans nobody cares about. Those are white Christians who are dying in droves for the vanity of the “Rich Men North of Richmond.”
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socal2
2023 Sep 28, 11:06am
Shaman says
This implies that Ukrainians have no agency and are not volunteering to defend their country from a hostile invader.
Where is the evidence that the majority of Ukrainians want their government and military disbanded and to accept living under Russian occupation?
It’s cost half a million lives, and those weren’t Sudanese Africans nobody cares about. Those are white Christians who are dying in droves for the vanity of the “Rich Men North of Richmond.”
This implies that Ukrainians have no agency and are not volunteering to defend their country from a hostile invader.
Where is the evidence that the majority of Ukrainians want their government and military disbanded and to accept living under Russian occupation?
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Onvacation
2023 Sep 28, 11:14am
Onvacation
2023 Sep 28, 11:14am
socal2 says
If the Ukrainians have so many volunteers, why do they recruit by press gang?
This implies that Ukrainians have no agency and are not volunteering to defend their country from a hostile invader.
If the Ukrainians have so many volunteers, why do they recruit by press gang?
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socal2
2023 Sep 28, 11:56am
Onvacation says
FFS - virtually any country suffering a massive invasion from Russia like Ukraine is experiencing would have to institute Martial Law and set up a conscription system. There were loads of patriotic US volunteers after Pearl Harbor, but we still needed a draft.
Besides, if Russia is so successful in their invasion, why are they having to call up mobilizations and pathetically use criminals like Wagner to go next door and get killed?
socal2 says
This implies that Ukrainians have no agency and are not volunteering to defend their country from a hostile invader.
If the Ukrainians have so many volunteers, why do they recruit by press gang?
FFS - virtually any country suffering a massive invasion from Russia like Ukraine is experiencing would have to institute Martial Law and set up a conscription system. There were loads of patriotic US volunteers after Pearl Harbor, but we still needed a draft.
Besides, if Russia is so successful in their invasion, why are they having to call up mobilizations and pathetically use criminals like Wagner to go next door and get killed?
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Onvacation
2023 Sep 28, 12:44pm
Onvacation
2023 Sep 28, 12:44pm
socal2 says
Drag them off the corner give them a rifle and send them into Russian mine fields is conscription?
FFS - virtually any country suffering a massive invasion from Russia like Ukraine is experiencing would have to institute Martial Law and set up a conscription system.
Drag them off the corner give them a rifle and send them into Russian mine fields is conscription?
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DOGEWontAmountToShit
2023 Sep 28, 8:40pm
DOGEWontAmountToShit
2023 Sep 28, 8:40pm
Ukey Bullshit Counter-offensive Paid By You And Me.
We were promised that they would be at the Sea of Azov MONTHS ago.
We were promised that they would be at the Sea of Azov MONTHS ago.
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