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RFK Jr. announces he's running as an independent.


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2023 Sep 30, 10:35am   9,832 views  168 comments

by Tenpoundbass   ➕follow (9)   💰tip   ignore  

I bet DeSantis does the same thing just to level the vote shaving playing field. But I'll go one further, I bet it was DeSantis' plan all along if his failing campaign doesn't turn around by November, he'll run as Independent.

I don't think DeSantis will make a dent in either parties numbers. But I wonder what the Left/Right leaning Independent voters ratio will be that vote for RFK Jr in the general election.
If you ignore all else and just look at the D next to his name. You would assume that all of the voters he would shave off any numbers, it would be the Democrats that felt it the most. But I'm not sure, RFK Jr. is more Conservative and more Patriotic than anyone besides Trump on the Republican ticket.
People who are fed up or worn down with the Trump hysteria, might opt to vote Independent for RFK Jr.
Of course we all know, that without a Party representation and saturation in every voting district in America to make sure the Indy votes don't get shit canned, or (Cured) changed to a Democrat vote. Then no Independent or 3rd party will ever stand a chance. Especially not in this era of compromised complicit Judges that tells real victims they have no legal standing, while actively persecuting any and all that brings Voter Fraud to the light.

RFK Jr. could get 75% of the actual vote, but on election day they would say he barely got 5% of the vote. While the losing party wring their hands, blaming him for their loss.

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118   AD   2024 Apr 2, 6:14pm  

richwicks says

This is the man's version of "he's not handsome enough".

Be less superificial.


Media like Frank Luntz says RFK Jr more of a threat to Democrats based on his policies like government regulations and taxes as RFK Jr has proposed crypto currency taxes. Also to a minor extent his VP pick is major BLM and AntiFa supporter. Seems like more of a Green Party ticket than a Ross Perot 1992 ticket.
119   richwicks   2024 Apr 2, 8:16pm  

AD says

Also to a minor extent his VP pick is major BLM and AntiFa supporter. Seems like more of a Green Party ticket than a Ross Perot 1992 ticket.


I agree. I don't think RFK will get very far, and his VP pick is pretty abysmal.

I don't think RFK is a very serious candidate anyhow. Political dynasties are shunned rather than embraced. Liz Cheney is out, the Bush family is done, the Clintons are done, and I think the Kennedys are done.

I only think RFK is correct about better review of vaccinations, that is literally the only issue he has that I can think of. That's not going to be allowed, I think that it's up to parents to protect their children and do the research. This pandemic brought a lot of people sitting on the fence about forced vaccination to wake up. I never worried about it, until they pushed out the mRNA vaccine which OBVIOUSLY doesn't work, throwing into question everything else. Today if I were to have kids, I'd be looking for a way to get around most vaccinations including bribery.
120   Patrick   2024 Apr 3, 12:23pm  

https://slaynews.com/news/rfk-jr-doubles-down-biden-genuine-threat-our-democracy-much-worse-trump/


Presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr. doubled down Tuesday on his warning that Democrat President Joe Biden “is a genuine threat to our democracy.”

Citing the current administration’s efforts to censor the political speech of the American people online, Kennedy declared that Biden is “much worse” than President Donald Trump.

After making similar comments on Monday, RFK Jr. doubled down on the remarks during a Tuesday appearance on “Fox & Friends.”

“President Biden has done something that no other president in history has done, which is to order media, particularly social media, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, YouTube, Google to censor his political opponents,” the independent presidential candidate said on the Fox News show.
121   DOGEWontAmountToShit   2024 Apr 3, 10:16pm  

They'll gun his ass down on TV just like they did to his daddy and uncle...then proclaim that the shooter is a white supremacist MAGA supporter.

Change My Mind
122   Tenpoundbass   2024 Apr 4, 7:28am  

richwicks says

I don't think RFK is a very serious candidate anyhow. Political dynasties are shunned rather than embraced. Liz Cheney is out, the Bush family is done, the Clintons are done, and I think the Kennedys are done.


He stood a real chance at one time. Had he ran on a JFK revival platform. I think he would have given Trump a serious run for his money.
But he would have had to come out bashing all of the commies and Lefties and been branded another meanie like Trump, to have been authentic.
JFK was no fan of the rabid Progressives and radical Socialists. RFK seems to be a closet Proggy.
123   Tenpoundbass   2024 Apr 4, 7:34am  

The Curious thing about RFK Jr. he is not trying very hard to court the Democrat voters, that feel they have to vote for Commies and Freaks because of the D by their name. I mean he's there for them for an alternative. But he is not making any serious attacks on the Left. Other than crying that Joe Biden wont give him Secret Service protection. Something awfully screwy going on there. But then again he's not attacking Trump and courting his supporters either.

Might the Democrats use his candidacy as somewhere to put the extra Trump voters when they flip their votes, so that it wont be so blaringly obvious this time around? They wont need to remove the votes from Trump and give them all to Biden, they can just shave them off Trump and put them on RFK(But not enough to win).
124   WookieMan   2024 Apr 4, 8:08am  

richwicks says

WookieMan says


Core Trump supporters were never gonna support RFK. He can't speak without you wanting to kill yourself. It's like someone sanding your skin.


This is the man's version of "he's not handsome enough".

Be less superificial.

You seriously don't get the point? Assuming a miracle happened. This would be the leader of our country? He can't fucking talk dude.... He sounds like he had a bowl of sand for breakfast. I get it's a disease or ailment, but I don't care. We already have a demented retard leading our country. You want to double down?

Trump says some dumb stuff, but he can speak. I swear you're anti-American at this point. Just admit it.
125   richwicks   2024 Apr 4, 8:16am  

WookieMan says


You seriously don't get the point? Assuming a miracle happened. This would be the leader of our country? He can't fucking talk dude....


For fucks sake, we have a figurehead now who is fucking out of his mind in senility, who can't read cue cards. Who gives a shit if RFK can talk at all, can he GOVERN?

I am fucking sick and tired of fucking puppets being "president". I'm fucking tired of people not realizing they are puppets.

WookieMan says

I swear you're anti-American at this point. Just admit it.


If you actually think this, you're one stupid nitwit.
126   HeadSet   2024 Apr 4, 1:47pm  

Tenpoundbass says

Might the Democrats use his candidacy as somewhere to put the extra Trump voters when they flip their votes, so that it wont be so blaringly obvious this time around? They wont need to remove the votes from Trump and give them all to Biden, they can just shave them off Trump and put them on RFK(But not enough to win).

That is what I have been saying - RFK will be a bucket for fraudulent Dominion votes transfers from Trump so that Biden will win in a plurality in the swing states.
127   Patrick   2024 Apr 15, 8:11pm  

https://slaynews.com/news/rfk-jr-qualifies-iowa-ballot-holding-special-one-day-state-convention/


RFK Jr Qualifies for Iowa Ballot after Special ‘One-Day Blitz’ in State
128   Patrick   2024 Apr 17, 1:25pm  

https://billricejr.substack.com/p/the-pros-and-cons-of-bobby-kennedy


The Pros and Cons of Bobby Kennedy, Jr.

For most of my life, I didn’t pay much attention to Kennedy. My thought was probably that he was a run-of-the-mill liberal environmentalist whose ideas definitely ran counter to my own.

Kennedy popped up on my radar when he became the world’s most influential voice, theorizing that childhood vaccines, very possibly, are related to the massive increase in children diagnosed on the autism spectrum.

Back then, I thought every child should get every vaccine recommended by the Science and Health Establishment. It never occurred to me that some vaccines might cause serious adverse events and perhaps aren’t even necessary.

Still, I couldn’t help but admire a man who went against conventional wisdom in such a conspicuous way. I also knew this position cost him his exalted position in the liberal and mainstream media establishment.

To me, it’s incredibly easy to support the “Current Thing.” However, it takes genuine courage to advocate for a position one must know is going to cause him to lose many friends and social status (not to mention income potential).

I definitely became a Kennedy admirer
when I read The Real Anthony Fauci
In reading this book, my mouth hit the floor on almost every page. I couldn’t believe a person as prominent as Kennedy was attacking (and debunking) a person as prominent and widely admired as “Science himself,” Anthony Fauci.

As I quickly learned, this book was not just a scathing critique of Fauci and the disastrous Covid response, it was actually an indictment of the entire corrupt Science/Medical Complex.

It’s rare when one book can change your entire outlook on large swaths of the world hierarchy, but this book did. Not only did I read the book, I wrote a book review for my new Substack newsletter where I called it “perhaps the most important non-fiction book of my lifetime.”

For me, the book connected many dots and made me realize the capture of medicine and Big Pharma traces back to the creation of the Rockefeller Foundation and the birth of the world-changing “pill-for-every-ill” movement.
130   Patrick   2024 Apr 23, 9:07pm  




RFK's own family abandoned him like Uncle Ted abandoned Mary Jo Kopechne.
133   WookieMan   2024 Apr 24, 4:45am  

richwicks says

If you actually think this, you're one stupid nitwit.

Oh bite my dick Rich. I can't stand Biden. He's barely a functioning human. We agree on that. No chance in hell I want 4 years of RFK barking gravel out of his mouth. He's also way to left for me. I get most of us anti-Covid people like his stance on that topic, no one really looks into the rest of his stances. He's pretty left, hence running on the Dem ticket originally. I can't support that in current times. The right is less fucked, so gotta go with that.
134   richwicks   2024 Apr 24, 6:50am  

WookieMan says

Oh bite my dick Rich. I can't stand Biden.


Well good for you. I'm really shocked that you don't like yet another neocon puppet that is entirely controlled by the same fucking assholes that have been running the country into the ground for 30 years. The problem is, even after 30 years of this shit, you think the Biden is at all different than say George W. Bush who was OBVIOUSLY a puppet himself.

WookieMan says

He's barely a functioning human. We agree on that. No chance in hell I want 4 years of RFK barking gravel out of his mouth.


IF he's not a puppet, it's an improvement. IF. Anything other than this total shit we have is an improvement. Trump is a carnival barker nitwit, which was a HUGE improvement over a cunt that was the driving force in blowing up Libya for NO reason at all, who then brought slavery back to that country. That's our fucking establishment.

"But I don't like how RFK sounds"

Who gives a shit you baby. I guess the alternative is let's have the assholes that have bankrupted the country have another go at it, another war, another failure. We're at the point that our establishment sucks so fucking bad that a billionaire who had no political experience won the vote because our establishment sucks that fucking hard. Is RFK just yet another false hope? Probably, but Biden is your alternative. They won't let Trump win, I guarantee that because anybody that took basic statistics and knows how to apply it knows that Biden didn't win last time.

WookieMan says

He's also way to left for me. I get most of us anti-Covid people like his stance on that topic, no one really looks into the rest of his stances. He's pretty left, hence running on the Dem ticket originally.


There is no left or right, it's a false paradigm. How can you be an adult and still think in terms of "left" and "right"? Grow up.

WookieMan says

The right is less fucked, so gotta go with that.


Well, let's have that fag Lindsey Graham play puppet for a few years, and maybe, maybe, the dipshits that still argue about "duh left" and "duh right" will finally realize it doesn't make a difference.

The two parties do not oppose one another, if they did, Nancy Pelosi can EASILY be put in prison for insider trading, gee whiz, why don't the criminals who are "elected" do that? They're just a gang of puppets that are allowed to be criminals so long as they sign in whatever dumb ass bill corporations shove in front of them as they pretend to fight over fake issues that they don't give a damned about.

How many bills were passed into law this year? Any idea? Take a guess. You have no idea do you? Gee, it's like we're not in an actual democratic system at all. We never hear about what bills are passed, do we? It's never discussed in our "news" is it?

That's THE problem. Instead we compelled to argue about drag queen story hour. Who cares? The people writing our laws don't. They don't give a shit but you can't recognize the distraction from the reality.

We have no representation at all, whatsoever. It's blatantly obvious to me, but maybe 1% of the population recognizes it. You don't. You care about what RFK's voice sounds like. THAT'S important to you.
135   stereotomy   2024 Apr 24, 6:58am  

I'm becoming more convinced that RFK is a Trojan horse who will be used to siphon votes from Trump, then at the end cede his votes to Brandon for the win. Then theres the fact that, as has been mentioned here on PatNet, it's easier to launder fraudulent ballots in a 3-way race.
136   HeadSet   2024 Apr 24, 9:56am  

stereotomy says

I'm becoming more convinced that RFK is a Trojan horse who will be used to siphon votes from Trump, then at the end cede his votes to Brandon for the win.

Yep, except that the votes from Trump to RFK will be "Dominioned" and not actual votes. I do not think a candidate can cede votes to another, but that will not be necessary anyway. RFK just needs to get on the ballot in the swing states so votes can be transferred from Trump to RFK. Then fewer votes will need to be shipped in during the post election wee hours for Biden to win the swing states with a plurality. For example, an actual Trump 55%, Biden 40% and RFK 5% would become Trump 40% Biden 45% and RFK 15%. The first evidence of this plan coming to fruition is when RFK makes it on the ballot in the needed swing states. The Dem opposition to RFK on the ballot is phony and designed to lend credibility. Another cover act will be the MSM suddenly speaking about how "RFK will take far more votes from Trump than Biden." Watch RFK start referring to the Covid jab as the "Trump Vaccine."
139   AmericanKulak   2024 May 2, 5:03pm  

stereotomy says

I'm becoming more convinced that RFK is a Trojan horse who will be used to siphon votes from Trump, then at the end cede his votes to Brandon for the win. Then theres the fact that, as has been mentioned here on PatNet, it's easier to launder fraudulent ballots in a 3-way race.

Yep. I'm positive that tens of thousands of 2020 Libertarian votes in PA were laundered to Biden. Remember the "Glitch" on the screen that night?
140   RC2006   2024 May 12, 9:32am  

He is a ghoul supporting full term abortions.

To bad the brain eating worm didn't finish him off.


141   Tenpoundbass   2024 May 12, 9:35am  

Now he's clarifying not if the baby is viable outside the womb. Which means he will say and do anything to win.

"By any means necessary" is the Commie mantra.
142   RC2006   2024 May 12, 9:49am  

Tenpoundbass says


Now he's clarifying not if the baby is viable outside the womb. Which means he will say and do anything to win.

"By any means necessary" is the Commie mantra.


He is only walking back because he just killed his run, even his VP is against it. Fuck him he said what he thinks the first time. CIA you'll get a pass for this guy.
143   PeopleUnited   2024 May 21, 5:55am  

When Trump and Biden agreed to debates, they left the “Commission on Presidential Debates” out of the equation. That effectively prevented RFK from participating in the debates. There will be no Ross Perot Spoiler in the 2024 election.

So does this make it harder or easier to fake the election results?
144   FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden   2024 May 21, 6:05am  

i like rfk, he’s a good man
145   HeadSet   2024 May 21, 7:12am  

FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden says

i like rfk, he’s a good man

Yes, so was Ross Perot. But just as Perot was only in the race to take votes from Bush so that Clinton would win, RFK is only in this race to be a vote dump for transfers from actual Trump votes so that Biden can win.
146   RC2006   2024 May 21, 7:14am  

FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden says

i like rfk, he’s a good man


His is not. The only thing he is good on was covid.

He is for:
Full term abortion.
Jailing climate deniers.
Anti guns.

I'm sure there are more those are just a few just off the top. He is also for all typical dem BS.
147   FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden   2024 May 21, 11:28am  

RC2006 says


FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden says


i like rfk, he’s a good man


His is not. The only thing he is good on was covid.

He is for:
Full term abortion.
Jailing climate deniers.
Anti guns.

I'm sure there are more those are just a few just off the top. He is also for all typical dem BS.



that’s not true at all. that’s fake info on internet. he isn’t for jailing climate deniers or for full term abortions.
148   WookieMan   2024 May 21, 12:55pm  

RC2006 says

FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden says

i like rfk, he’s a good man

His is not. The only thing he is good on was covid.

He is for:
Full term abortion.
Jailing climate deniers.
Anti guns.

I'm sure there are more those are just a few just off the top. He is also for all typical dem BS.

He can't talk either. I can't do that for 4-1/2 years. It can piss Rich off, but I don't care. He blames it on some disease. It's alcohol. You can go ahead and die if you're for full term abortion. He has no reason to be in this race besides to fuck with it. Biden is walking dead. Trump is the classic lesser evil of a shit show who I'll vote for.

Start blaming the Boomers where the blame factually lies. They're fucking retarded politically. Not even debatable.
149   Tenpoundbass   2024 May 21, 6:18pm  

HeadSet says

Yes, so was Ross Perot. But just as Perot was only in the race to take votes from Bush so that Clinton would win, RFK is only in this race to be a vote dump for transfers from actual Trump votes so that Biden can win.


Ross Perot didn't take my vote from Clinton or Bush. He was the only and sole reason I went to the polls. It's not a sandwich at the fucking deli, it's the President.

"Get me an Italian sub, but if the don't have seeded rolls, then get me a Tuna Sub."

it don't work like that. And people who vote for one person, for the sole purpose to vote against another person. Has no fucking business with a voters card.
Diminish my vote, you should diminish yours. At least I vote on principal and nothing else. I also voted for Ralph Nader every time he ran. Digest those apples.
150   HeadSet   2024 May 21, 6:27pm  

Tenpoundbass says

Ross Perot didn't take my vote from Clinton or Bush.

So? Ross Perot did not run to win; Perot hated Bush and ran specifically to take votes from Bush so that Clinton would win.
151   Tenpoundbass   2024 May 21, 6:55pm  

I would hope anyone voting for RFK Jr. is doing so because has has fooled them into believing the shit he says. I no longer do, but I understand some still do.
Anyone that is going to vote for RFK Jr at this point, has convinced themselves that Trump and Biden are no good.

I didn't vote in the 2012 Presidential election, as there was no 3rd party candidate that I could have voted for instead. I wasn't voting for Mittens or Obama. So I ask you, how did Ross Perot take my vote from Clinton or Bush?
152   Tenpoundbass   2024 May 21, 6:59pm  

HeadSet says

Perot hated Bush and ran specifically to take votes from Bush so that Clinton would win.


Ross Perot was bullied by the press from both sides. It was sickening, you were just so brainwashed you believed every word the Propagandists said.
You're assuming "I" voted wrong. But history proves you were duped into voting in the biggest scumbag in the history of politics, until Obiden hit the scene to redeem his sorry ass. You should have voted for Ross Perot, and not been so gullible by the nightly news smearing the great man.
Ross Perot was trying to upend the American off shoring, and YOU voted against that. And now are trying to chastise me for it.
I would vote for him again if he were alive and running.
153   PeopleUnited   2024 May 21, 7:45pm  

Tenpoundbass says

Ross Perot didn't take my vote from Clinton or Bush. He was the only and sole reason I went to the polls. It's not a sandwich at the fucking deli, it's the President.

Your principals and everyone else who voted for Perot got you something different than you ordered. It got you Clinton.
154   HeadSet   2024 May 21, 7:57pm  

Tenpoundbass says


So I ask you, how did Ross Perot take my vote from Clinton or Bush?

I never said that. You are assuming that all Perot voters had the same rational as you. Perot ran as a spoiler to draw votes from Bush, and plenty of voters did just that.

Tenpoundbass says


erot was trying to upend the American off shoring, and YOU voted against that

Wrong. I supported Perot when I found out he sent a private commando team to rescue a couple of his employees that had been captured for ransom overseas. That still does not change Perot's reason for running and the result of Clinton winning.
155   RC2006   2024 May 21, 7:58pm  

https://youtu.be/8-zMGt1s4mk?si=LwchPYWdYbQqQji

He only walked back statement after everyone turned on him. Typical fairweather Dem and ghoul.
157   HeadSet   2024 May 30, 12:24pm  

Patrick says





Trump already said he welcomed RFK to the debate. Only Biden and the Dems are keeping RFK out.

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