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New instalment of tech LARP. The Amazon worker replacement edition


               
2023 Oct 20, 1:46pm   1,818 views  34 comments

by Tenpoundbass   follow (10)  

So they dropped a video today that shows the reported Robots Amazon says they plan on using to replace their workers.
Well NO actually they did not say that, the actual report is they created these huge robots to perform Warehouse tasks. It's the media that's hyping it as the human replacements. Which that's all Amazon wants, to put the human employees and future employees on notice that they are replaceable.
I don't think these robots will ever do it, but let take a look at the video and see if you can spot what's wrong with this idea.


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Besides it just being a 20 second video, and in spite of the human over there very slowly feeding the tubs on the conveyor belt. The tubs don't even look like they have much of a load. Those Robots looks flimsy and clumsy, why do they need headlights on their eyes? The whole operation there looked slow and feeble. That was 20 seconds of a robot hobbling to a table, then hobbling back.

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1   Tenpoundbass   @   2023 Oct 20, 1:52pm  

See what an Amazon warehouse employee actually has to do? Those Robots are scanning or labeling anything. They didn't open a big box from one shipper receiver and open and sort them into separate bins. That video above is just a staged propaganda video, at no point in that video, are those Robots performing an actual Amazon task that a human counter part is doing. The work station those Robots are using are not anything like the offshoot conveyor next to a terminal, scanner, and label printer. They are just lifting an undisclosed amount of weight, just like every other Boston Dynamics LARP video where they are the star of the show.


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2   richwicks   @   2023 Oct 20, 8:46pm  

I agree, this is more propaganda to intimidate workers. Those robots cost $100's of thousands of dollars, and require regular maintenance. They aren't even close to replacing human beings.

Robots are NOT cheaper than people, generally. They are very expensive, and they regularly break down. No self-repair on a robot.

I think Amazon employees should call the bluff and challenge Amazon to replace all human workers. That would bankrupt Amazon.
3   HeadSet   @   2023 Oct 20, 9:05pm  

richwicks says

I think Amazon employees should call the bluff and challenge Amazon to replace all human workers. That would bankrupt Amazon.

That is where the hordes of illegals come in.
4   Tenpoundbass   @   2023 Oct 20, 9:10pm  

Or at least challenge them to which could carry a crate from a bin the quickest. Did you see the bot in the back, try to stack the crate in a bin that was already occupied, then it had to do down?

None of these robot manufacturers has showcased a robot that has performed meticulous tasks or even capable of performing them.
Those arms and hands are strong and made for lifting. They showcase them being agile, I still think the construction robots were CGI.
Those robots would have to have multiple arms specialized for different tasks. They will never perfect a bipedal humanoid robot to perform the tasks humans do. Sure they could make a conveyor that rips open boxes, then another bot takes items out and sends them down a shoot where they get scanned and sorted. I don't think those robots at the top could perform the simple task the girl in the second video was doing.
5   TheAntiPanicanLearingCenter   @   2023 Oct 20, 9:47pm  

Self-driving cars sure disappeared quick, along with super power Goggles.

Like Vampire Movies, every 20 years it's front and center for a season then disappears
6   Ceffer   @   2023 Oct 20, 10:25pm  

Looks like it's stoned, just like a real, live employee!
7   richwicks   @   2023 Oct 20, 10:26pm  

AmericanKulak says

Self-driving cars sure disappeared quick, along with super power Goggles.


These are marketing campaigns, that failed.

We will eventually have self driving vehicles, but we need to rethink our infrastructure to do it. If we invested in infrastructure, it would be trivial.

The spy glasses? I don't know if those will ever be accepted and I doubt it. I don't think VR will ever be really embraced either. VR was the "big thing" for decades, but experiencing it, even I have no interest in it, and I fervently believed I did at one point.
8   stereotomy   @   2023 Oct 21, 5:08am  

richwicks says


The spy glasses? I don't know if those will ever be accepted and I doubt it. I don't think VR will ever be really embraced either. VR was the "big thing" for decades, but experiencing it, even I have no interest in it, and I fervently believed I did at one point.

I think the only reason they can keep trotting out spy glasses is that there are plenty of pseudos who wear fake glasses in the hope that people will then think that they're smart. I remember the fad back in the 80's - it was pathetic. The media doesn't help either, always slapping glasses on "scientists."
9   Al_Sharpton_for_President   @   2023 Oct 21, 5:46am  

Tenpoundbass says

See what an Amazon warehouse employee actually has to do?

Interesting video, but a sad representation of what this country has become. She is a consumption worker. Consumption should never be part of GDP.

Contrast that sad video to what a production worker does: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5i10jDaUCc
10   Tenpoundbass   @   2023 Oct 21, 6:09am  

richwicks says


We will eventually have self driving vehicles, but we need to rethink our infrastructure to do it.

If we ever have self driving cars, they wont be made with a hodgepodge of delicate silicon chips and flimsy micro circuits like they are today.
I don't think our best tech is up to the task, we've gone backwards in robustness, and reliability. Which is what self driving cars need, not only do they need to be made out of space grade discrete circuits, the batteries will need be reimagined. The batteries that are used now, has a tendency to short circuit, when the vehicle flexes over a curb, or uneven surface. The batteries are on the bottom of the frame like a skid plate. It is prone to every flex of all 4 wheels. Until we can come up with a battery that you can puncture, short and set on fire, and it can be extinguished as quickly as the fire started. The electric car will only grow more and more with a reputation as a death trap. The electric car as we know it today, Tesla included. Will be deemed a Death Trap, and outright banned to own, and forbidden to park within any structure or dwelling where humans live. Mark my words.

The electric car as we have it today, just screams, Greenies pushing a proof of concept that wasn't quite ready yet for primetime, but some Idiot Shit Flinger President gave out billions in subsidies to make it sort of work, at a time hoverboards were exploding and burning down houses.
11   RC2006   @   2023 Oct 21, 6:10am  

Lol I use to work on warehouse automation, that video is a joke. No good reason to make robots even remotely like humans that would be to complex, fragile, and costly to maintain.

https://youtu.be/SuD9gsaOqGc?si=VHwFHIDZUkrB4xZK
12   richwicks   @   2023 Oct 21, 6:24am  

Tenpoundbass says

hich is what self driving cars need, not only do they need to be made out of space grade discrete circuits, the batteries will need be reimagined.


I think EV's are a dead end. They actually use more energy over their lifetime than an ICE engine does.
13   Tenpoundbass   @   2023 Oct 21, 6:31am  

richwicks says

I think EV's are a dead end. They actually use more energy over their lifetime than an ICE engine does.

Agreed..

I think a small combustion engine, powering an electric generator directly with no batteries what so ever is viable.
When you consider, that you can get a generator that takes 5 gallons of gas, that can then run 4 to 5 hours.
Just imagine how far a car can travel in 4 to 5 hours, just on 5 gallons of gas.

I can see that setup going 300 to 400 miles on 5 gallons. That hasn't been done, because the greenies are so bent on force fucking the battery into every electric car. They are stupid with that. An electric car doesn't need a battery. The hybrid was the dumbest fucking idea of all.. Toyota should have ditched the battery, and put a 5 to 7 hp motor in the Prius, powering a generator, with a bank of capacitors between the electric motors and the generator, to give it the volts and amperage needed.

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