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FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden says

some anti russia geopolitical chess move

FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden says

i just know russia backs syria.

Exactly. And Oceana has always been at war with EastAsia! Right Winston?

Keeping the MIC oiled.

GasTheYoungTurks says

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Barack Hussein Obama was the first to send troops there. Interestingly it was a few months after Russia took Crimea.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_intervention_in_the_Syrian_civil_war

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Yes. Note that doesn't answer my question, which is in the present tense.

So you do not think we are still in Syria for the same reasons why Barack Hussein Obama sent US troops there ? Its a protracted geopolitcal conflict.

And the same career civil servants who formulated it sitting in the halls of CIA and NSC are still there, just in higher positions like GS 15 and SES.
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ad says

So you do not think we are still in Syria for the same reasons why Barack Hussein Obama sent US troops there ? Its a protracted geopolitcal conflict.

And the same career civil servants who formulated it sitting in the halls of CIA and NSC are still there, just in higher positions like GS 15 and SES.

And that is as good as an answer as any.

Just a damning one. :)

PumpingRedheads says

ad says

So you do not think we are still in Syria for the same reasons why Barack Hussein Obama sent US troops there ? Its a protracted geopolitcal conflict.

And the same career civil servants who formulated it sitting in the halls of CIA and NSC are still there, just in higher positions like GS 15 and SES.

And that is as good as an answer as any.

Just a damning one. :)

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Preventing further development of Syrian oil fields, and limit the production of existing fields. With improving technology, too much oil is available in the world for the banksters who have made big loans to existing oil fields in other parts of the world, so the banksters want to keep oil price high in order to prevent the loan portfolio from collapsing . . . just like all the shenanigans disrupting automotive production in the past decade+: too many loans are riding on used cars being expensive instead of being dumped in favor of buying cheap new cars (cash-for-clunkers, electric cars, ridiculous mpg requirement, zero-emission, etc., all for the purpose of driving car prices higher, so consumers would have to take out more loans and keep servicing loans.)

Keep in mind, oil drilling is capital intensive initially and low marginal cost after drilling, similar to airline industry. JD Rockefeller discovered a century and half ago that in the absence of cartelization, the oil drillers would drive each other into bankruptcy simply because competition would drive oil price towards the low marginal cost, which wouldn't cover the high fixed cost.

Stealing oil would not be as profitable as driving oil price up 2x to 4x while capping oil production to a little less than existing demand.

socal2 says

9/11 Troofers constantly say 9/11 was an inside job so America could steal Middle East oil. Where the fuck is it? Our country's strategic oil reserve is lower than ever. Where are all the pipelines and thousands of US oil tankers taking oil back to the US? How much oil would we have to steal just to cover the mobilization costs of bringing thousands of Americans and military gear to Iraq in the first year?

Also, thought all the Globalhomo NWO is all about EV's and getting America off oil? Why would they all be in on this?

Morons want us to believe it was easier to create a MASSIVE conspiracy to kill thousands of Americans at home and thousands more people abroad to get Iraqi oil - as opposed to beating Environmentalists so we can drill for more oil at home? America has more energy reserves then we know what do with.

The banksters' goal is not making oil cheap and more available to Americans, but making oil expensive, so the petro-dollar can be worthwhile. Invasion of Iraq was not to steal their oil (using a puppet local regime is always more cost-effective than having US marines standing over an oil well over there), but to stop / disrupt production/export, so that oil price can be kept higher. 9-11 and invasion of Iraq were planned when oil price was near bottom below $10/bbl and gasoline price around $1/gallon or less.

Reality says

so that oil price can be kept higher

The war with Iran that they are conjuring will certainly gratify them then, when the Straight of Hormuz is inevitably closed.
$300 oil and a global 'depression' for them to feast on.

PeopleUnited says

FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden says

some anti russia geopolitical chess move

FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden says

i just know russia backs syria.

Exactly. And Oceana has always been at war with EastAsia! Right Winston?

Ah, poor little USSR suffering from eeeevil Merica again.... I'm old enough to remember that there were no Red Army in Syria until Obongo's Sec of State John Kerry invited the fuckers in. You guys were on this site back then, so not too young to remember these facts... Is it Alzheimer kicking in already?

Reality says

The banksters' goal is not making oil cheap and more available to Americans, but making oil expensive, so the petro-dollar can be worthwhile. Invasion of Iraq was not to steal their oil (using a puppet local regime is always more cost-effective than having US marines standing over an oil well over there), but to stop / disrupt production/export, so that oil price can be kept higher. 9-11 and invasion of Iraq were planned when oil price was near bottom below $10/bbl and gasoline price around $1/gallon or less.

FFS - the spinning and spinning. Do you guys ever get dizzy pushing Islamist and Commie prop?

It is no longer: "9/11 was an inside job so we could go to war for oil"?
It is now: "9/11 was an inside job so we could go to war and make oil super expensive!"?

America is one of the biggest consumers of oil on the planet. As if higher energy prices from OPEC would not have a massive negative impact on the US economy, interest rates and bank's balance sheets?

Also, expensive oil would only prop up Russia, Venezuela and OPEC.

Make it all make sense!

https://x.com/JackPosobiec/status/1862934557332304075

Only in the Middle East can you have the Hegelian Dialectic operating as a twenty way instead of the customary two way. Larry of Arabia spins in his grave.

I guess you could call it the Hegelian Calculus where summations bob and weave in the multiplicity of tribal Hatfield and McCoys. Mossad and CIA ISIS and Al Qaida are the synthesized party crashers.

Pick a tribe, any fucking tribe, and arm it against all others (with God exclusively on your side, of course).

In addition to stealing and dominating criminal enterprises and resource theft at the crossroads, the Middle East is also a treasure trove of occult records of ancient technologies. The Bush false flags on Iraq were to steal gold, oil and to plunder ancient texts and artifacts, as the Nazis had done through the Ahnenerbe.

Of course, as we know, the Bush's aren't Americans, they are Nazis with American accents.

The problem with "The Other Side" is that it's Western facing propaganda only has two Satans to blame. It doesn't want to talk about the Third Satan it fears, the one that has always been at odds with Persia and sees itself as the Vanguard of Sunni Defense.

The Turks

Killing sand niggers for the benefit of the jews? What do I know I'm just a white trash cracker.

At least the Turks know how to create a first class vacation destination in Turks and Caicos Islands. (Yes, I know, I am going all AOC).

Ceffer says

At least the Turks know how to create a first class vacation destination in Turks and Caicos Islands. (Yes, I know, I am going all AOC).

All kidding aside, Antolia in southern Turkey is an excellent vacation destination.

The insurgents in Aleppo include Turkmen, Kurds, as well as Sunnis.

Nobody's MSM really covers the huge mess that is the neverending Syrian Civil War.

Every Hegelian antipodes requires a good sponsor with assets, comms and armaments:

https://t.me/hkitabayashi/3115

And Qatar, Iran, Turkey, etc. It's a free for all. Russia and Iran are propping up Holy Lion Assad, whom Syrians have voted as President (along with daddy) for ~50 years

Here's a group backed by Turkey:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahrar_al-Sharqiya

Turkey and Qatar:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Nusra_Front

Saudi Arabia and Turkey:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahrar_al-Sham

The last group is the one that entered Aleppo.

Internalized Leftism: "It's only the USA that funds insurgents and does bad things".

The Turks whacked out an Iranian Propagandist-Spy working for PressTV and Iran and Qatar moaned about it

cia trying back to overthrow assad, just like before. infinite wars brought to us by people never elected. cia director is an asshole.

So, here is a detailed chart, to make sure you remain thoroughly confused about the situation in Syria.

So, the Turkish Ottoman ambitious thugs are trying to kill the Kurdish thugs and the Shia thugs. The Shia thugs are trying to kill all the other thugs. The Sunni Arab thugs are generally trying to kill the Shia thugs on principle and Iranian support Shia thugs. The Kurdish thugs are trying to kill the Turkish thugs. The CIA and Mossad thugs have established fake Muslim groups to kill all the other thugs, or see anyway that all the other thugs are always at each other’s throats so they can steal oil. The Russian thugs generally support the Shia thugs and Iranian thugs( who support the formal Syrian government thugs for convenience even though the Syrians are generally Sunni thugs) so that maybe they can get some stolen oil franchises, too. On top of it all, many Turkish Muslim thugs are crypto Sabbatean Frankist Jews pretending to be Muslims so they don't get their heads cut off.
The HTS thugs are currently stabbing the Kurdish thugs in the back after pretending to be sympathetic allies.

I hope that clears everything up, but don’t bomb me if I’m wrong.

Erdogan got tired of waiting for Ass-add and his KGB master to hold their end of Astana agreements and relieve him from hosting several millions of Syrian refugees on his soil so he gave green light for his and Quatari proxies to do some enforcement.

But what's new here? Soviets have never held their side of any agreement with anyone. Ever.

Our tax dollars at work again. Syria was the next step on the 'march to Iran' series of intended state implosions from Libya in the Middle East. It's not cooperating with the implosion.

https://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=248999

https://t.co/o7cTpCu0hM

Amazing, it’s like a blitz of bad State Dept and CIA plans, all hatching simultaneously because they know support is gone come Jan 20th. In one week we have pseudo-Maidan in Georgia, an attempted coup in South Korea, and “Syrian rebels” back in Aleppo. You can’t be cynical enough for these clowns. The theme as ever is to isolate Russia and remove politicians who might be neutral or favorable to Putin. Georgia, Korea, and Syria all have conservative presidents (including the winner of Georgia’s recent election), and border or have strategic interest for Russia.

https://t.me/hkitabayashi/3129

goofus says

Amazing, it’s like a blitz of bad State Dept and CIA plans, all hatching simultaneously because they know support is gone come Jan 20th. In one week we have pseudo-Maidan in Georgia, an attempted coup in South Korea, and “Syrian rebels” back in Aleppo. You can’t be cynical enough for these clowns. The theme as ever is to isolate Russia and remove politicians who might be neutral or favorable to Putin. Georgia, Korea, and Syria all have conservative presidents (including the winner of Georgia’s recent election), and border or have strategic interest for Russia.

Don't overthink it. The global powerhouse, the USA, is a rudderless ship right now until Trump gets in office. Bad people are trying to take advantage of it while they can. Trump is literally trying to run the country as President elect as much as he can or is allowed. He can't run any federal agencies and I don't think Biden even knows who runs them at this point. Kamala is drunk.

Biden and Kamala will have the worst Presidential/executive legacy in our history. And there's still time for them to fuck it up more unfortunately.

All warships have left the Russian naval base in Tartus, Syria. According to satellite images from Planet Labs, which were studied by the BBC Russian Service, they were there two days ago.
Usually, warships are moored at the large pier closest to the exit from the bay.
The satellite image from December 3 shows that there is not a single large ship at the pier.
Two days before that, on December 1, three warships were still at the pier. They differ from civilian ships in their gray color and narrower lines.
Earlier, military OSINT analyst H. I. Sutton wrote about Russian ships leaving Tartus. His analysis was published in the online publication Naval News. "One of the vessels [based in Tartus], the support vessel Yelnya, was seen leaving Tartus on the morning of December 2, 2024, and there is information that some or all of the other vessels also left the city," he wrote.
Judging by the silhouettes and sizes, the frigate Admiral Grigorovich, the corvette Mercury, and the frigate Admiral of the Fleet of the Soviet Union Gorshkov may have been moored at the Tartus base pier on December 1.
The Russian Navy's logistics base in Syria is important primarily because it is the only Russian naval facility in the Mediterranean.
Its value increased in 2022 after the Russian invasion of Ukraine began, after which the Russian Navy could not send its ships to the Black Sea because Turkey closed the straits to warships due to the war. Military experts note that the withdrawal of ships and support vessels from Tartus may mean that the Russian command is not confident in the ability to ensure their safety. Another important facility is the Khmeimim air base.

Bonus simple question: what the fuck these fucks were doing in Syria?

RWSGFY says

Bonus simple question: what the fuck these fucks were doing in Syria?

Sounds like they're making sure to get out by Jan. 20th and the Baltic freezes. It's been cold everywhere in the northern hemisphere. Get the ships to St. Petersburg. Plus they don't want interaction with US ships likely coming to the Med in full force. Trump has a Jewish lean to him, so shit is gonna go down in Gaza and Lebanon. Russia can't lose more ships.

Basically a tuck and run by Putin. Honestly a smart move by him to create leverage with Trump. I think Trump is secretly in charge at this point, at least with foreign affairs. If I had his number nothing is stopping me from calling Putin and it would be legal. Trump is already dealing with foreign affairs as president elect.

How is surrendering a port "creating leverage"? If ships are gone and port is undefended, the leverage goes into the toilet.

RWSGFY says

How is surrendering a port "creating leverage"? If ships are gone and port is undefended, the leverage goes into the toilet.

Putin is clearing the way for US ships. In Russian voice "You do what you need for Israel and I'll get out of the way." Russian ships are safe in the Baltic and there's no unintentional conflict. Putin knows we're not going to damage the base. They don't need ships there if they can't go through Turkey. There's nothing to defend and they know Trump is a Jew defender due to Jared and Ivanka. It's an early olive branch.

I don't care how callous leaders are, ultimately you don't want to see your citizens die. Putin's plan is to get the land he wants in Ukraine and pull back from European waters. So yes, he's creating leverage with Trump. Just as Trump is doing with Canada and Mexico without being in office yet.

Trump has been planning this for four years. The world knows. Domestically, would you have ever thought RFK or Tulsi would be cabinet members, amongst others? Globally he's been chatting with everyone. He's basically in charge right now with foreign policy.

Latest battle map:

I don't get all this talk about Baltics: nobody ever harrased Red Fleet warships there and nobody in current cucked-out West ever would. We're peeing our little pink panties at a mere thought of a thirs party lobbing Western-made weapons into the aggressor's territory, for fuck's sake! The only people who have balls to sink Red Fleet hulks are the Ukies, but they are not present there. So, sorry, not buying the whole Baltics angle.

RWSGFY says

Latest battle map:

Turkey wants to fu*k Syria?

WookieMan says

I don't care how callous leaders are, ultimately you don't want to see your citizens die.

That never bothered Stalin.

zzyzzx says

WookieMan says

I don't care how callous leaders are, ultimately you don't want to see your citizens die.

That never bothered Stalin.

Never bothered Johnson (LBJ) either. Nor Zelinski.

HeadSet says

Never bothered Johnson (LBJ) either. Nor Zelinski.

Agree actually. But that's how you and your family dies. So by default I don't want to see citizens die.

Zelinski is likely dead in the next 2-4 years. Putin is going to make him an example. Might be sooner.