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My problem is that I have filled up the gun safe I bought in 2020. No more gun purchases until I buy new safe.

Just don't buy a liberty safe.

I spent the day cleaning all of my guns and counting my ammo. I'm short on both. :)

GNL says

Just don't buy a libery safe.

Electronic locks are gay.

Nice deal, can't go wrong with that.

GNL says

Just don't buy a liberty safe.

I spent the day cleaning all of my guns and counting my ammo. I'm short on both. :)

1. Will not
2. We can never have enough guns and ammo :).

They have a great selection of well-made AR platform rifles at good prices, but if (like me) you live in California, you can't buy them.
Just type "California compliant" in the search bar and watch how all the cool, featured rifles fall off your list!

More importantly, all you AR-15 owners need to ask yourself the question:

"Who needs to have 100 rounds in their chamber?"

In the PRNY (Peoples Republic of New York), it's a full-on clusterfuck. Effectively no handgun permits without $$$$$, reducing licenses from 5 years to 2 years, NICS check for all ammunition purchases, a surcharge of $2.50 per box of shotshell ammo. Oh, and did I mention that the PRNY won't let you bring in any of your guns not bought/registered in the state?

I know, why did I move back? It's to be closer to RobberBaronScum. Fuck me.

brazil66 says

They have a great selection of well-made AR platform rifles at good prices, but if (like me) you live in California, you can't buy them.
Just type "California compliant" in the search bar and watch how all the cool, featured rifles fall off your list!

How do you know they're well made?

stereotomy says

Oh, and did I mention that the PRNY won't let you bring in any of your guns not bought/registered in the state?

How would they know?

RWSGFY says

stereotomy says

Oh, and did I mention that the PRNY won't let you bring in any of your guns not bought/registered in the state?

How would they know?

Sure, it's all well and good until you have to use the firearm, and the cops are called.

Then again, they'll probably jail you anyway for hurting one of Obama's sons.

stereotomy says

RWSGFY says

stereotomy says

Oh, and did I mention that the PRNY won't let you bring in any of your guns not bought/registered in the state?

How would they know?

Sure, it's all well and good until you have to use the firearm, and the cops are called.

Then again, they'll probably jail you anyway for hurting one of Obama's sons.

If you have to use it in anger not having a piece of paper from the state is the least of your problems.

RWSGFY says

stereotomy says

Oh, and did I mention that the PRNY won't let you bring in any of your guns not bought/registered in the state?

How would they know?

Sure, it's all well and good until you have to use the firearm, and the cops are called.

Then again, they'll probably jail you anyway for hurting one of Obama's sons.RWSGFY says

stereotomy says

RWSGFY says

stereotomy says

Oh, and did I mention that the PRNY won't let you bring in any of your guns not bought/registered in the state?

How would they know?

Sure, it's all well and good until you have to use the firearm, and the cops are called.

Then again, they'll probably jail you anyway for hurting one of Obama's sons.

If you have to use it in anger not having a piece of paper from the state is the least of your problems.

You misunderstand - I'm saying that if you have what would be a clear-cut case of self defense, like home invasion, the PRNY will put you through the legal wringer anyway just for you having the temerity to want to protect yourself.

stereotomy says

You misunderstand - I'm saying that if you have what would be a clear-cut case of self defense, like home invasion, the PRNY will put you through the legal wringer anyway just for you having the temerity to want to protect yourself.

Get. Out

GNL says

15 round mags

For which gun? If it's the AR this half standard capacity.

Bd6r says

My problem is that I have filled up the gun safe I bought in 2020. No more gun purchases until I buy new safe.

Why? I keep my pistol in the nightstand next to my bed, the shotgun under the bed, and the Robinson in the closet. My wife and kids all know how to use them, or are too young to be able to cock them.

stereotomy says

You misunderstand - I'm saying that if you have what would be a clear-cut case of self defense, like home invasion, the PRNY will put you through the legal wringer anyway just for you having the temerity to want to protect yourself.

If you have enough room to shoot an AR15 in your house, you can probably afford to hire some guards. These are country defense weapons, not home defense.

ar15 are cheap depending on how its built out.

RayAmerica says

More importantly, all you AR-15 owners need to ask yourself the question:

"Who needs to have 100 rounds in their chamber?"
What dumbshit said those words? Someone who doesn't know anything about guns, that's for sure.

NuttBoxer says

GNL says

15 round mags

For which gun? If it's the AR this half standard capacity.

The 9mm pistol.

NuttBoxer says

stereotomy says

You misunderstand - I'm saying that if you have what would be a clear-cut case of self defense, like home invasion, the PRNY will put you through the legal wringer anyway just for you having the temerity to want to protect yourself.

If you have enough room to shoot an AR15 in your house, you can probably afford to hire some guards. These are country defense weapons, not home defense.

If an AR-15 is all you got, then yes, it is a home defense gun.

GNL says

brazil66 says

They have a great selection of well-made AR platform rifles at good prices, but if (like me) you live in California, you can't buy them.
Just type "California compliant" in the search bar and watch how all the cool, featured rifles fall off your list!

How do you know they're well made?

I saw a review on Pew Pew Tactical and some other site I can’t remember right now.

NuttBoxer says

Bd6r says

My problem is that I have filled up the gun safe I bought in 2020. No more gun purchases until I buy new safe.

Why? I keep my pistol in the nightstand next to my bed, the shotgun under the bed, and the Robinson in the closet. My wife and kids all know how to use them, or are too young to be able to cock them.

I keep my long guns in a safe, just in case some moron breaks in while we are not home - he will have much harder time getting them. Safe is also fireproof, for the unlikely case that house catches fire. Pistol of course next to bed, but I do not need multiple pistols/revolvers lying around the house.

Also, I have X long guns and plan on eventually buying more. Should I leave them randomly lying around the house? I will forget where my k31 or Wincheter 94 or whatever else gun can be found. I think we had this discussion a while ago on a similar thread.

I only have one gun out and ready to go. It's high up in the walk in closet. I can rack it quick with this...



Mount it under a shelf. It is magnetic and the gun will stick right to it. Rack with a one-handed push and it's ready to fire. Mount it high enough that a child cannot reach it. Maybe even better yet, mount it right above the front door? :)

GNL says

I only have one gun out and ready to go. It's high up in the walk in closet. I can rack it quick with this...



Mount it under a shelf. It is magnetic and the gun will stick right to it. Rack with a one-handed push and it's ready to fire. Mount it high enough that a child cannot reach it. Maybe even better yet, mount it right above the front door? :)

Why racking is necessary? Why add complexity?

I just looked at the Palmetto armory website and they have a CZ75 BD for sale.

This is a superior gun, it's great.

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1014533400

Kinda expensive but seems nice…anyone here has shot this?

RWSGFY says

GNL says

I only have one gun out and ready to go. It's high up in the walk in closet. I can rack it quick with this...



Mount it under a shelf. It is magnetic and the gun will stick right to it. Rack with a one-handed push and it's ready to fire. Mount it high enough that a child cannot reach it. Maybe even better yet, mount it right above the front door? :)

Why racking is necessary? Why add complexity?

children lack strength to rack usually

GNL says

If an AR-15 is all you got, then yes, it is a home defense gun.

Not a good one. Priority should be home defense before country defense.

Bd6r says

Kinda expensive but seems nice…anyone here has shot this?

9 doesn't have the stopping power. The only reason I still like my 9 is everyone in my house old enough can shoot it. My daughter was able to rack it when she was 11.

The FBI did an extensive carry caliber study some years ago. They went with 9mm. My calibers are, for reasons of course, 22LR, 9mm, 12ga, 5.56 and 300WIN. I don't have a need for anything else.

NuttBoxer says

9 doesn't have the stopping power.

Hollow point will have sufficient stopping power. 12 gauge will definitely have a better stopping power, but a womyn or a child will have trouble with recoil.
GNL says

The FBI did an extensive carry caliber study some years ago. They went with 9mm. My calibers are, for reasons of course, 22LR, 9mm, 12ga, 5.56 and 300WIN. I don't have a need for anything else.

I have 22LR, 22 short (for quiet fun), 9 mm, 12 ga, 30-30 win for a lever gun (fun to shoot!), and 308 Win.
And since I like old things, I have a Swedish mauser which shoots 6.5x55 - the best engineered gun and cartridge ever.

Bd6r says

[9mm] Hollow point will have sufficient stopping power. 12 gauge will definitely have a better stopping power, but a womyn or a child will have trouble with recoil.

For handguns, hollow point greatly improves stopping power against unarmored targets. Bullet breakup hopefully means you'll penetrate fewer walls consecutively — you're neighbors will appreciate that.

12 gauge gives you a whole lot of ammunition options. You could try "low recoil" configurations of #4 buck or #00 buck. Proper placement of the gun stock against the shoulder and experience also help greatly. Some people move to twenty gauge for reduced recoil, but recoil is mostly a feature of the load, not the gauge. Semiautomatic helps spread out the recoil over time, but then you lose the cost/simplicity/reliability of a slide action.

FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden says

RWSGFY says

GNL says

I only have one gun out and ready to go. It's high up in the walk in closet. I can rack it quick with this...



Mount it under a shelf. It is magnetic and the gun will stick right to it. Rack with a one-handed push and it's ready to fire. Mount it high enough that a child cannot reach it. Maybe even better yet, mount it right above the front door? :)

Why racking is necessary? Why add complexity?

children lack strength to rack usually

... until they find a way... oops!

Definitely need to be careful javing guns in a house around kids. They are damn curious. Mine are in the master bedroom in the closet. I have a lock on the closet and kids are never allowed in the bedroom without an adult present.

I have a pistol grip on my Mossberg. Stupid barrel laws means that's my only way of increasing maneuverability inside my house.

My four year old can't rack any of the guns in the house. Once she gets old enough to do that, she'll be taught how to shoot just like my older daughters. My teenager knows where all my guns are, and how to use them.

Guns are hard or impossible to cock or fire with little toddler hands when held properly. They are much easier to cock when held in some creative ways which often include pointing the muzzle right into one's face. But hey, everybody makes his own bed to sleep in.

Best to keep a readily available gun, for defense purposes, up high with an empty chamber imo. Yes, teach your kids about guns at the appropriate age.

NuttBoxer says

I have a pistol grip on my Mossberg. Stupid barrel laws means that's my only way of increasing maneuverability inside my house.

It might be better to use a revolver that fires 20 guage shells instead? I think there's a maker for one. I know someone makes a Derringer that does but, imo, 2 shells aren't enough.

NuttBoxer says

I have a pistol grip on my Mossberg.

Have you shot it? I suspect it is inconvenient.